Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[hopeisdead6969]

I suppose the question could extend to Sekai as well, since we’re still unsure of who User4 is. Himawari obviously knows, but other than her, am I correct that only the Users (and Yasu via Hope) are aware of the situation?

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Besides the suspicions that this entire update (and maybe future ones until the next reset) may be occurring in a template world and not the "main" one (even foreshadowed with the "Yeah! Like, how do you know you’re not still in that room?" scene), she has referenced stuff like the nightvision, which is something connected to the gods, though it remains to be seen whether she knows only about the gods or she's also aware of the wishing well.

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[JackZero]

It's boner time major dong time.

 

[VoidExile]

Day 23 character count 13643.

Spoiler: Day 359-372, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Had a little makeover of the tierlist, simplified, rearranged, stuff like that.

Spoiler: Tierlist

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[shmurfer]

The purity routs feel so far away that I cant even think about them yet. Instead I'm here hoping that 500 Yumi headpats lives up to my hype. I have no idea how Selebus will manage to write it, so I can only hope the cute and hilarious tsundere headpat levels reach critical mass.

I'm expecting 500 Chinami headpats to not end up in an orgasm or any sort of being turned on. She just enjoys it. Maybe even continue it to 1000 headpats before Sensei gets tired and Chinami enjoys herself the correct amount.

 

[bobbertjoalie]

I feel like my tierlist looks pretty different than most of the ones I've seen on the wiki

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S = Love
A = Like
B = Good
C = Fine
D = Not-Crazy-About
F = Dislike
Trash = Hate

 

[Moonflare]

Everyone likes to talk about "stomachache", but I think the decision that most hurts me in LiL is not picking Uta to win the costume competition:

Spoiler: Tip your bartender

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It's even worse because I really think she should win (the "pssssst" as she "shinobi vanished" was so funny, and the "metaphors" were so bad it was amusing). Fucking green path (you have to pick Miku in order to get the double blowjob event with Kirin).

Also on a minor sidenote, it's interesting that Touka starts to investigate everyone that loves Akira during this chain, because it's also when she hints at being in love with him. First she "proposes" (in a very roundabout way) twice during the bus ride to her home. Then she refuses to answer if she would like to have sex with him when Otoha asks.

Spoiler: Somewhere far from here

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Spoiler: World of lines

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[bobloblawwwwwww]

So, how do you use URM to guide you through the game? This is the first time I've played a brand new update and I'm not sure what to do to get things rolling.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Check out the first page of the thread. You’re looking for the Guide Mod, I believe. However, it’s only updated 2 weeks after release, so it won’t work for this release. But it works for helping with event requirements and triggers.

For this update, things begin automatically on a particular day of the week. Friday, I believe. For triggers, you can search for Moonflare’s posts, as he posts event triggers really quickly after updates come out.

 

[shmurfer]

So, how do you use URM to guide you through the game? This is the first time I've played a brand new update and I'm not sure what to do to get things rolling.

Guide mod gives hints about what to do. it's only updated when public versions of LiL are released.

URM's biggest feature for LiL is letting you know when there's branches in the story logic. One of the biggest ones talked about this update is whether you've seen failsafe (which we're assuming means you chose to groom Tsukasa. The logic is wrong currently, might be fixed next update). There's several points in the dialogue where the top left says something like "choices available", you can click them and find out through the logic provided what dialogue you are about to get, and sometimes you can pick something you haven't earned just to see the dialogue (Though I'd roll back to before the choice when you're done reading it. Committing to dialogue you didn't earn will break things irreparably)

It also lets you find variables and event names, and allows you to change variables or jump (or view in a replay) events that the game says you aren't allowed to see yet. You can also watch certain variables to have them appear in a tab to watch them change in real time, though this is rarely useful in LiL.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

I got the impression Maya is the victim of Noriko's stalking.

I don't think most of us got the same idea, but you do you.

Maya: "I'm cold and blunt. A kuudere with slowly dissipating "cool" and "dere" buried somewhere so far underground that you'll likely never find it."
I'm struggling to figure out which form of "cool" she means. Cool like in you are in awe of how cool they are, sort of like what the girls see in the mc, or if she means cool as in containing those emotions. If in the former case then she appears emotionless but people see her more as a freak than someone worth admiring and she lacks the caring part so she's basically just an outcast in every sense. In the latter case she's slowly losing the "kuu" in kuudere but she still doesn't care in this case. Given some of her outbursts with the scarf and the appearance of Noriko with the numerous instances of anger, disgust, few instances of blushing and so on, I'm starting to think it's actually the latter in this case. But I feel like she already is the former.

Term Kuudere is about containing these emotions inside or not knowing how to show these emotions at all.
But Maya is clearly a narcissist, so she can imply both meanings.

WTF DOES THAT MEAN?
Maya: "If I could tell you more, I would."
Sensei: "Really?"
Maya: "Really."
Sensei: "Even though I'm the most disgusting person in the world?"
Maya: "Right."
Proceeds to have one if not the most out of place facial reaction I've ever seen. A regular wide smile, blush, regular wide eyes with that tear stuck in both eyes.
The event is called "Stop looking for answers". It looked like she was laughing, in distress, embarrassed, on the verge of crying, psychopathic-ish, all at the same time and I can't figure out which it is. I expected her usual stoic expression but I got a deranged one instead. I don't know about you but that's just not normal. It seems like there's deeper meaning but the text doesn't imply there is, or at least it doesn't feel like it.

What do you mean most out of place?! Selebus using this Maya face as merch.
Anyway, she was laughing, in distress, embarrassed, on the verge of crying, psychopathic-ish, all at the same time, I believe.

"Would have to be a real screw up. Equally as douchey. Zero work ethic. A whole bunch of shit"
Bruh, out of nowhere marriage proposal.

Ehem, that's a wife material for you.

Tsukasa, Tsubasa... Bruh. Well at least Touka was given a more unique name. So a family of three this time around.
The problem with having characters with similar names is that it's easy missunderstand who talks. When their name colors are the same it's even harder. Bad design decision.

We have a method how to remember them!
Touka is Tsukini Tsuyuri Tenma Touka.
Kid is for TsuKasa.
Boobs is for TsuBasa.

Some distant future where Yumi calls him daddy... I don't know how I feel about that. I feel like she somehow would reject it on account of it being too embarrassing or something else.

Then I'll take that rejected future of yours.

Nodoka is entertaining as hell.

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The tier-list looks less complicated now, yet somehow I liked the previous systems of yours more, xd

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Nodoka is entertaining as hell.

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[Bingoogus]

The purity routs feel so far away that I cant even think about them yet. Instead I'm here hoping that 500 Yumi headpats lives up to my hype. I have no idea how Selebus will manage to write it, so I can only hope the cute and hilarious tsundere headpat levels reach critical mass.

I imagine it going something like "are you for real?" into "this is just sad..." into "..." into *starts crying as years of trauma from receiving zero affection of any kind leaks out* into *some kind of bliss trance like S&M subspace* and finally into *mind shattering orgasm* then she just leaves... and it's never spoken of again...

 

[SlidingSubject]

I imagine it going something like "are you for real?" into "this is just sad..." into "..." into *starts crying as years of trauma from receiving zero affection of any kind leaks out* into *some kind of bliss trance like S&M subspace* and finally into *mind shattering orgasm* then she just leaves... and it's never spoken of again...

I can totally see only being able to give 500 headpats to Yumi once, and then having the option disabled until later.
And then you find out that giving Yumi headpats too early costs you some events.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

I beieve its already been mentioned, but this foreshadowing has me intrigued and also horrified:

Spoiler: Uh-Oh

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[w.iT]

So, how do you use URM to guide you through the game? This is the first time I've played a brand new update and I'm not sure what to do to get things rolling.

You can explore autoMod if exploring the sandbox is a hassle...(it is a hassle once puzzle stuff come up).

 

[Apollo259]

Spoiler: My Reaction

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[Reiyayru]

How did Karin end up in F tier if she didn't appear in 0.46 at all...

It is cause she didn't appear in the latest update that made her fall in my list. I really should change the labels to better clarify what each row means better but will do it when I don't have to work and am not in the process of polishing off the remaining alcohol I had left over from New Years. Karin has fallen simply cause my interest in her and her story has dropped since she didn't appear and other then that small mention with Kirin there wasn't anything to really attach to her. Only reason she was D in my last list was cause of the alt Karin who watches Football with that Alt Sensei, also with other characters stories going she took a far back seat in my mind. My F tier is essentially I like them but my enjoyment of them is atm low and have no interest in them as a character, no doubt when we get more events and interactions with her and depending on where Sel takes her story she'll either move up in the list or stay where she is, she's cute and her personality is funny and light but compared to others she falls a bit short. Same way I've felt about Rika, she's a neat character but her place in the story is little interest beyond Rin's mom and comic relief. Hm, I should of put Karin ahead of Rika though, consequence of getting tipsy as I did the list lol.

 

[shmurfer]

I have have overstepped if you're reading this void, stop?

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[edit] And I think I've run out of steam, by the time I get in the mood to edit this it'll be out of date. I'll leave it here.

 

[Reiyayru]

Some wounds fester and worsen over time. The lingering pain of her rejecting the cock still brings fresh agony each new day as if he awakes to his heart being gouged anew.

This is the first time I've read one of your post from start to finish, and not really just a combo of how interested I am in her character at the moment of making the list and how much I like her. So far no character has made me dislike them enough to hate them or have complete zero interest in where they are going yet.