Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Pedro4545454]

Can only hope, but it's basically confirmed scenes will happen with them, but like with other characters... Rin, Noriko, a few others, he's kinda awful at managing his large cast and just leaves characters without any sort of development for a long period of time. I still don't expect anything for Tsukasa for a bit longer really.

For me, this chapter 4 is what prepares the earth for the bad things that will happen in chapter 5 and the bad things that happened in chapter 5 will have a total impact on the dark route. in chapter 6, since the dark route will be the smallest of all assuming they gave 5 updates to the dark route and 5 of the characters overcoming that and finally the pure routes or a chapter 7 showing the characters really overcoming completely to come the pure routes.

(Every time I do these calculations I realize that I will be playing this addictive game for another 3 to 5 years of my life or even more than that.)

 

[wilhermans]

(Every time I do these calculations I realize that I will be playing this addictive game for another 3 to 5 years of my life or even more than that.)

I wish I could forget about this game

 

[Pedro4545454]

I wish I could forget about this game

I wish I could forget it so I could play it again and feel the same feelings I felt the first time I played it ;-;

 

[jclark1337]

Welp I've been speeding through CH4 since I have a few days off, made it up to 0.40 so far. Figured I would post some thoughts and reactions. I'll split it into 2 parts so it doesn't get too long probably

Spoiler: CH4 0.37 - 0.40 reactions and thoughts PART 1

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[VoidExile]

Spoiler: Touka's poor bed...

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[shmurfer]

Right, but are those previous saves going to be tagged permanently from having the Care Packages, or does that only execute the check and DRM if they're in the Game folder? Plus, they're flagged for using cheats due to a glitch I had.

I don't think the saves are ever tagged with anything, otherwise people have dropped the ball in making the anti drm patch and not informing people of the issue which we would then have a URM tutorial on how to remove.

as of current patch is there any lewd scenes with tsukasa or selebus is just fucking with us?

That depends. Is intentionally making Tsukasa watch you fuck Imani lewd?

 

[Deleted member 4389531]

What we're seeing is a longer version of the "Groundhog Day Loop" trope, which has become somewhat popular as a writing tool for developers. On the surface, it lets you play around with different ideas or situations, with the knowledge that at some point everything will be reset back to the starting point, and by and large, whatever happened during that loop has no bearing on the future. Because, honestly, it never happened. Throwing in the idea that others can be trapped in (and aware of) the loop is a bit of a twist, but it doesn't change the fact that that's what we're seeing here.

Your enthusiasm for relating LiL to Groundhog Day has inspired me to cope and seethe once more about the time travel.

Look, lads, I'm just not fucking buying it. There's no goddamn time travel in Lessons in Love. Not a goddamn bit. I don't care that 99% of Japanese visual novels incorporate time loops as a fluid way of making each route equally canon including one of the prime inspirations for LiL itself (Cross Channel). I don't care that Selebus proudly markets it as a 'crazy romance story with time travel' on twitter sometimes. I don't care that the characters refer to it as time travel. I don't care, and you're not gonna believe this, that a recent update seems to have a direct visual depiction of actual time travelling occurring. I don't buy it!!!! It's a fucking psyop!!!!!! An elaborate ruse!

But a distraction from what you ask? IDK, the fact that everything everywhere is occurring simultaneously at once? That their time frame is more dependent on when they perceive themselves to be than anything else? That time is not a flat line progressing from point to point but in fact a shapeless blob of wibbly wobbly cummy wummy stuff molded like clay by experiences external to the reality marble the characters find themselves in? I don't know! I don't know the fucking answers! I'm not looking for answers, in fact! But what I DO know with full and utter confidence is that THERE IS NO TIME TRAVEL IN LESSONS IN LOVE!!!!!!!!!

WHY DOES THE CITY CONTINUE DEVELOPING EVEN WHEN THEY SUPPOSEDLY TIME TRAVEL BACK? WHY IS EVERYTHING UNCHANGED BUT THEIR MINDS? WHY IS THIS THE LEAST CONSEQUENTIAL TIME TRAVEL TO EVER EXIST IN A TIME TRAVEL STORY? WHY DO CHARACTERS JITTER BETWEEN SCENES AS IF CASUALITY IS FLUID AT ALL TIMES AND ALL STEPS FORWARD ARE BUT TRANSIENT MARKS UPON SAND SOON TO BE BLOWN AWAY BY THE WIND? WHY DO CHARACTERS CLEARLY REMEMBER 'PAST TIMELINES' AS IF IN FACT WHAT THEY ARE REALLY REMEMBERING IS A SINGLE UNBROKEN EXISTENCE OBSFUCATED ONLY BY THE FOGS OF A MIND UNWILLING TO FACE THEIR FEARS AND BUILD THE FUTURE? WHY? WHY DO THEY CALL IT TIME TRAVEL? IS IT JUST BECAUSE IT STARTED THAT WAY WHEN THEY WENT ONE YEAR BACK TO THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR? WHO EVEN REMEMBERS THAT? DID IT EVEN ACTUALLY HAPPEN? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Riolol]

I wish I could forget it so I could play it again and feel the same feelings I felt the first time I played it ;-;

If you could erase your memories of this game but also leave yourself a note, what would you tell yourself? I might tell myself to stay away but I doubt I would listen to me.

 

[jclark1337]

Probably have to make one more part because I'm uncomfortable with how long it's getting with the screenshots.

Spoiler: CH4 0.37 - 0.40 reactions PART 2

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[fdsasdf_p]

Tech question: is it possible to have two separate instances of this game installed simultaneously?

Yes. I have a v0.46 for normal use, a v0.28 for care package, and a v0.23p2 for pre-rework content. My saves made across all three copies still live and my laptop has not burst into flames yet.

Spoiler: Question about gods

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I though replaying the game would answer the questions i had, not create new ones.

From the narrator in events Rewrite, There is Nothing, and Word of the Day, it is established that gods from first to third are Nozomu, Wires, and Pareidolia (this name was disclosed much later by the god itself). The narrator that tells the setting story of gods in these events does not use any out-of-ordinary textual pattern.

As for the instances of a god imitating another god, you'll get different answers from different folks here. At the bare minimum, there are two instances that I can remember: one is Pareidolia literally telling you about it breaking out of its textual pattern in the beginning of Ch4 (so not really imitating, but you get the idea), and the other one appears in Yasu's An Apple Each Day; according to shifts in textual patterns, third god snatched control, first god snatched it back, then disguised himself as the second god. Reason for this is unknown.

 

[Apollo259]

Since there is nothing interesting really going on here right now, here's a question to spark a discussion that could get heated.

From the MAIN cast (the 20 classroom girls only), which character is the worst written one.

In my opinion it's Uta

I would say Tsuneyo or Yasu. I just feel like their gimmicks leave them kind of stunted as characters. A particular issue being they just slip out of the gimmick at will whenever they need to have a serious moment, or quadrupole down on it whenever comic relief is called for. Although I am open to the argument that the fact they they have a decent amount of character development despite that might actually make it good writing. I'm not sure though.

 

[SlidingSubject]

I would say Tsuneyo or Yasu. I just feel like their gimmicks leave them kind of stunted as characters. A particular issue being they just slip out of the gimmick at will whenever they need to have a serious moment, or quadrupole down on it whenever comic relief is called for. Although I am open to the argument that the fact they they have a decent amount of character development despite that might actually make it good writing. I'm not sure though.

At its core, the main cast are just tropes brought to life. I do think the development means it's good writing, because goddamn, even though Miku's face when she broke down on that one event did look like the Willem Dafoe meme, it didn't stop making me feel for her.

 

[jclark1337]

Okay that's it for now. Ended up being 3 parts but oh well

Spoiler: CH4 0.37 - 0.40 reactions PART 3

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[Pedro4545454]

If you could erase your memories of this game but also leave yourself a note, what would you tell yourself? I might tell myself to stay away but I doubt I would listen to me.

"Play this game when you have free time."
"Additional note: Try not to fall in love with Maya, believe me, once you do it is a path of no return and you will suffer a lot."

I doubt I would listen to myself, I would definitely do everything I did in the first playthrough and then change it in the replay and then do the green path only in the third playthrough like I did in this one.

 

[Apollo259]

At its core, the main cast are just tropes brought to life. I do think the development means it's good writing, because goddamn, even though Miku's face when she broke down on that one event did look like the Willem Dafoe meme, it didn't stop making me feel for her.

Miku is kind of an example of the opposite of what I mean when I say Tsuneyo or Yasu might be the worst written. Just off the top of my head You also have Rin as another example of the opposite. Rin and Miku have very silly comic relief moments and also very serious ones. But with them it never feels like a switch is being thrown and toggling them between silly and serious mode. Their silly and serious moments just feel like parts of wholistic characters. Where as to me anyway, Tsuneyo or Yasu feel more like they are just being toggled between modes to fit the scene Selebus is writing. And sure, you can say the same about Rin or Miku at the end of the day, because realistically the same thing is done with them. But the difference is with them I never feel that toggle happening.

Tsuneyo probably has it happen more often and more noticeably than Yasu to be honest. Sometimes She will go from knowing absolutely nothing about anything to then having a very serious deep conversations with Akira. You can probably say it has something to do with her connection to Wires, being written this way to emphasise that connection and how out of place she is. But at this stage to me it still just makes her character feel more artificial and disjointed. But maybe that is the intention with her, in which case perhaps it is actually good writing as it has achieved its desired effect.

 

[VoidExile]

Spoiler: That's a lot of grinding. I don't think the mc can pull this of either

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[VoidExile]

Day 45 character count 24292(longest yet).

Spoiler: Day 601-602, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Spoiler: Tierlist

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[SlidingSubject]

But maybe that is the intention with her, in which case perhaps it is actually good writing as it has achieved its desired effect.

I kinda agree and disagree with you, mostly because of Yasu. Both of them have been given characterization, it's just that Tsuneyo's was done early on in the Halloween parties, and Yasu's was done in pieces starting on her solo karaoke event and all over the rest of the third chapter. Tsuneyo's on the other hand has been used as a contrast since both can be said to be priestesses who are sometimes vessels.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Spoiler: Tierlist

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I'm happy to see that Maya has finally climbed to the top of the list.

 

[SlidingSubject]

Day 601-602, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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