Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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This is my first ever post and quite frankly I would prefer it to also be my last but honestly? I am a degenerate. I've played games spanning across many tags but so far my favorites have hit titles such as 'Corrupted Kingdoms, Harem Hotel, Drop Out, The Headmaster and others that don't make it to the point of being name dropped.

The writing among these games are fantastic but i truly have to mention Lessons in Love as THE GAME that goes above and beyond it's premise at every take. I'm not even finished with what is considered chapter one and quite frankly I've had to ask myself at least 6 times if i actually should be paying for therapy. I have cried, I have laughed inappropriately and then i have found myself back in depression.

This game literally has you experience an orgasm in it's writing and the post nut clarity that follows only to blue ball you with the inevitable outcome of your actions as the story progresses. You are awful. But the world is awful too. Praise Be. The OST is a masterpiece compared to almost any other game as well. (Don't think i can't hear Xion theme but less tempo)

I have genuinely never been so fixated on something that makes me both feel so great and so bad at the same time since I was forced to watch Evangelion or Madoka Magica. The game makes me feel like I'm Shinji jerking off on Asuka in a coma but this is a win for you since it's what you wanted the entire time.

Everything about this game hits my checklist because it's not just some random smut. You have somehow made pain fun because I eagerly anticipate the absolute hell that i assume is waiting for me in the next chapters and I'm writing about something people will just dismiss as fap material like it's fucking Shakespeare.
 
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throwawaysponge said:
This is my first ever post and quite frankly I would prefer it to also be my last but honestly? I am a degenerate. I've played games spanning across many tags but so far my favorites have hit titles such as 'Corrupted Kingdoms, Harem Hotel, Drop Out, The Headmaster and others that don't make it to the point of being name dropped.

The writing among these games are fantastic but i truly have to mention Lessons in Love as THE GAME that goes above and beyond it's premise at every take. I'm not even finished with what is considered chapter one and quite frankly I've had to ask myself at least 6 times if i actually should be paying for therapy. I have cried, I have laughed inappropriately and then i have found myself back in depression.

This game literally has you experience an orgasm in it's writing and the post nut clarity that follows only to blue ball you with the inevitable outcome of your actions as the story progresses. You are awful. But the world is awful too. Praise Be. The OST is a masterpiece compared to almost any other game as well. (Don't think i can't hear Xion theme but less tempo)

I have genuinely never been so fixated on something that makes me both feel so great and so bad at the same time since I was forced to watch Evangelion or Madoka Magica. The game makes me feel like I'm Shinji jerking off on Asuka in a coma but this is a win for you since it's what you wanted the entire time.

Everything about this game hits my checklist because it's not just some random smut. You have somehow made pain fun because I eagerly anticipate the absolute hell that i assume is waiting for me in the next chapters and I'm writing about something people will just dismiss as fap material like it's fucking Shakespeare.
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I'm in a similar boat - 5 years of just downloading games for fap material. I didn't even pay attention from the start, wildly clicking towards the next sex scene. By the time I got near the end of Chapter 2, some scenes would have me teared up. The character progression and subversion of the harem genre is really genius: the "horror" scenes are brilliant both plot wise, for what they represent with the whole God theme and repressed trauma, and as a tool to reel my own and other's porn addled brains into paying closer attention to the actual story of the game.
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I happened to be looking through some game files and noticed something that made me question the nature of Io's sexual trauma.
There's a nude model sheet of her in care package 3. In it, I noticed her vagina is very, very smooth. Like, clitless.

Now, some games and art goes with this as an aesthetic choice. Simpler things often being more visually pleasing and all that. So I double checked.
Every single girl we've gotten a detailed crotch shot of so far has a visible clit. Except Io.

I think this may be a deliberate design choice, and could explain a lot about her dislike of females, femininity, and outright disgust for sexual things in general.

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throwawaysponge said:
This is my first ever post and quite frankly I would prefer it to also be my last but honestly? I am a degenerate. I've played games spanning across many tags but so far my favorites have hit titles such as 'Corrupted Kingdoms, Harem Hotel, Drop Out, The Headmaster and others that don't make it to the point of being name dropped.

The writing among these games are fantastic but i truly have to mention Lessons in Love as THE GAME that goes above and beyond it's premise at every take. I'm not even finished with what is considered chapter one and quite frankly I've had to ask myself at least 6 times if i actually should be paying for therapy. I have cried, I have laughed inappropriately and then i have found myself back in depression.

This game literally has you experience an orgasm in it's writing and the post nut clarity that follows only to blue ball you with the inevitable outcome of your actions as the story progresses. You are awful. But the world is awful too. Praise Be. The OST is a masterpiece compared to almost any other game as well. (Don't think i can't hear Xion theme but less tempo)

I have genuinely never been so fixated on something that makes me both feel so great and so bad at the same time since I was forced to watch Evangelion or Madoka Magica. The game makes me feel like I'm Shinji jerking off on Asuka in a coma but this is a win for you since it's what you wanted the entire time.

Everything about this game hits my checklist because it's not just some random smut. You have somehow made pain fun because I eagerly anticipate the absolute hell that i assume is waiting for me in the next chapters and I'm writing about something people will just dismiss as fap material like it's fucking Shakespeare.
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I feel you. Very very much so, this game is... Art. In the very essence of the word and the process describing it.
It also is veeeeeery degenerate, which on the one hand adds to the appeal of the setting and on the other hand is an absolute shame as I honestly and genuinely think the writing and the story should appeal to a bigger, less degenerate mass - but it won't (and probably for good reason..... and wizards are just the topping on the cake).

You have seen a lot. I won't spoil you, ofc, but you will much more, and it is like a fascinating car accident sometimes which you follow with a perverted fascination, despite you disgusting yourself (Maya would be proud).
But keep in mind, this is only the start as of now. This ride, if Sel isn't going to be burned out at some point which, unfortunately and humanly can happen given the scope, will entertain us for years to come!

And with entertain I actually mean scare the living shit outta us.
 
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Ma1phas said:
I happened to be looking through some game files and noticed something that made me question the nature of Io's sexual trauma.
There's a nude model sheet of her in care package 3. In it, I noticed her vagina is very, very smooth. Like, clitless.

Now, some games and art goes with this as an aesthetic choice. Simpler things often being more visually pleasing and all that. So I double checked.
Every single girl we've gotten a detailed crotch shot of so far has a visible clit. Except Io.

I think this may be a deliberate design choice, and could explain a lot about her dislike of females, femininity, and outright disgust for sexual things in general.

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I do think you're right that this is intentional.

Io could actually have "Clitoral atrophy", which might explain her seemingly non-existent sex drive.
 
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DeSkel15 said:
I do think you're right that this is intentional.

Io could actually have "Clitoral atrophy", which might explain her seemingly non-existent sex drive.
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Io would let anyone have sex with Sensei in front of her as long as he cuddles with her after lol

Correction: it's just an exaggeration cause Io basically hates everyone except a few people.
 
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It looks like you are trying to explain tiny bit of Io's personality but ignore specifics in common.
I think you can explain everything by just ASD (and something like ASD-driven neurosis to explain thins like astenia). Trust me, I have both diagnoses IRL.

It also very improtant to note, that people with ASD are much more comfortable with other ASD-persons or psychopaths. It explains Io spontanious affection to Sensei as well.
 
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JelF547 said:
It looks like you are trying to explain tiny bit of Io's personality but ignore specifics in common.
I think you can explain everything by just ASD (and something like ASD-driven neurosis to explain thins like astenia). Trust me, I have both diagnoses IRL.

It also very improtant to note, that people with ASD are much more comfortable with other ASD-persons or psychopaths. It explains Io spontanious affection to Sensei as well.
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Err... i'm autistic and don't really get strong autistic vibes from Io and my radar is usually pretty damn solid. Not sure exactly what i'd expect Io to be diagnosed with but if she qualified for an autism diagnosis then either her scoring would be pretty close to not getting diagnosed with it or i'd require a pretty hefty explanation of the methodology used by the diagnostician.

She likes to make things - that doesn't mean autism
She hates socialising - that doesn't mean autism, it can but usually we're just bad at it, not hateful of it
She has anxiety - that doesn't mean autism either and most autistics with anxiety acquire it later in life as a response to not learning healthy coping skills for our particular sensitivities.
 
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Bingoogus said:
Err... i'm autistic and don't really get strong autistic vibes from Io and my radar is usually pretty damn solid. Not sure exactly what i'd expect Io to be diagnosed with but if she qualified for an autism diagnosis then either her scoring would be pretty close to not getting diagnosed with it or i'd require a pretty hefty explanation of the methodology used by the diagnostician.
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IDK. I know which radar you are talking about and in my case it was alarming AF. Maybe it is just due to spectrum wideness, maybe I am also catching something I am not aware of. Maybe it is because Io does not have depression, but has a lot of depression symptoms, which I can relate

BTW, another strange thing about my radar that it is completly ignoring Sensei despite it used to aim both ASD and psychopaths.
 
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IDK. I know which radar you are talking about and in my case it was alarming AF. Maybe it is just due to spectrum wideness, maybe I am also catching something I am not aware of. Maybe it is because Io does not have depression, but has a lot of depression symptoms, which I can relate

BTW, another strange thing about my radar that it is completly ignoring Sensei despite it used to aim both ASD and psychopaths.
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Yeah i dunno man, i do know autistics tend to go a bit overboard with diagnosing others with our particular brand of busted brain, seeing links and patterns where there aren't any so i'm inclined to think that's what's going on here, i could be wrong but it's really fucking rare for me to miss undiagnosed autism and i have a really good track record of identifying it, i've personally helped 4 undiagnosed adults discover their condition (3 men, 1 woman), all 4 later acquiring official medical diagnoses and i've yet to miss one that someone else detected so i'm pretty confident in my radar. Io just doesn't come across as autistic to me, but i could be wrong, you'd have to ask Selly if he intends her to be such and that he knows how to actually write one of us well enough to be accurate. I'm entirely unconvinced on all fronts.
 
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I have to agree with bingoogus on this one. Of course, the knowledge I have about autism is extremely limited, so who knows? But a big thing is that I don't feel like it would fit the game's themes that well. The game is big on having characters that have gone through or are going through extreme trauma that has heavy mental effects on them. And I definitely wouldn't classify autism as trauma. I believe that whatever is wrong with her isn't something she was born with. This is why I usually agree with the sexual assault victim theory about her. It explains a lot of stuff about her in a nice, understandable package. (Though, if the clit thing turns out to be true, then I dread to think about what type of abuse she had to go through.)
 
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Axismundi said:
I have to agree with bingoogus on this one. Of course, the knowledge I have about autism is extremely limited, so who knows? But a big thing is that I don't feel like it would fit the game's themes that well. The game is big on having characters that have gone through or are going through extreme trauma that has heavy mental effects on them. And I definitely wouldn't classify autism as trauma. I believe that whatever is wrong with her isn't something she was born with. This is why I usually agree with the sexual assault victim theory about her. It explains a lot of stuff about her in a nice, understandable package. (Though, if the clit thing turns out to be true, then I dread to think about what type of abuse she had to go through.)
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Good point, now I am sure I was wrong about Io.
 
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