Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

I dunno, it seems a bit more traumatic and she acts a bit more antagonistic towards females than if she merely had a birth defect.
I meant she might be a victim of FGM.

I mean I guess it could be mutilation, and it did seem to be because of something that happened around 8 years ago (like most other trauma in this game), since that's how long she's been taking some medications:

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Io doesn't really strike me as someone mutilated though. More like someone who works differently. Or as she says:

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lots of her "hasn't worked the way it's supposed to". Could be wrong though.

Also "Clitoral Atrophy" isn't a birth defect. It's just something that can happen due to a lack of arousal and use. The clitoris shrinks and "disappears". Io doesn't really seem to feel arousal, to me, meanwhile she knows other people do, which could be why she finds others, especially other girls, uncomfortable and weird.

 

[DeSkel15]

Io - Finds out Sensei and Tsuneyo went to an amusement park. The true climax of the Dark Phase. Psycho Io drugs the class.

You know, I was mostly kidding about this, but then I recalled that Io seems to think about murdering people a bit:

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Now, I'm a little worried. Psycho Ami has me worrying that everyone is just going to go Psycho for some contrived reason at some point.

 

[DeSkel15]

Io would let anyone have sex with Sensei in front of her as long as he cuddles with her after lol

Correction: it's just an exaggeration cause Io basically hates everyone except a few people.

Yeah, pretty sure only Uta gets that privilege, for Io.

That actually sounds more like Noriko, tbh. Hence the whole "Fuck Kirin, Marry Noriko" stuff.

 

[Ma1phas]

Also "Clitoral Atrophy" isn't a birth defect. It's just something that can happen due to a lack of arousal and use. The clitoris shrinks and "disappears".

Ah.
Would that happen pre-pubescent, though? The class are first year high schoolers, so that means she's been taking medicine for her mental health since she was about 7 if her time line is accurate.
Though if it's more common forms of sexual abuse that fucked her up, it doesn't mean it's impossible she was abused BECAUSE she was already mentally ill, worsening her, rather than made ill from said abuse.
The mentally ill are often easy targets for such abuse, after all. And as a kicker, many anti-depressants have strong libido killing effects, which could contribute to the atrophy, especially if she was taking big doses during her development.

 

[DeSkel15]

Ah.
Would that happen pre-pubescent, though? The class are first year high schoolers, so that means she's been taking medicine for her mental health since she was about 7 if her time line is accurate.
Though if it's more common forms of sexual abuse that fucked her up, it doesn't mean it's impossible she was abused BECAUSE she was already mentally ill, worsening her, rather than made ill from said abuse.
The mentally ill are often easy targets for such abuse, after all.

Not sure, but I wasn't trying to say that it's why she's taking medicine. It just might be why her vagina is different.

Personally, I'm thinking she and Sensei seem to remind eachother of themselves, due to both being groomed as children. Just, instead of like Sensei, she didn't get pleasure from it and felt worthless because of that. Maybe even was unable to satisfy her groomer and was abandoned. Her groomer also being a female which influenced her view of females especially. It could be why she has a contradictory mindset, and why she is given medications. Just a theory though.

 

[SauceSage]

Is the game already finished?

 

[DeSkel15]

Is the game already finished?

Probably got some years to go, actually.

 

[DeSkel15]

Io is very cute (when she is not aggressively lashing out on sensei's girlfriends for the crime of existing)

Io is like Ami, except replace Incestuality with Fem-Antipathy.

 

[Hario1225]

Probably got some years to go, actually.

Selly is gonna milk the shit out of this game, I guess three more years? Or when Genshin Impact ends lol

 

[DeSkel15]

Selly is gonna milk the shit out of this game, I guess three more years? Or when Genshin Impact ends lol

No clue, but I'm not really looking forward to an ending anytime soon. 3 years, 9, 27, etc. Bring it on. There's not really much out there that catches my interest before I get bored.

 

[Riolol]

Is the game already finished?

Oh my sweet summer child

 

[butterfly boy]

Is the game already finished?

I'm expecting 6 more chapters so around 6 years

 

[DeSkel15]

Yeah i dunno man, i do know autistics tend to go a bit overboard with diagnosing others with our particular brand of busted brain, seeing links and patterns where there aren't any so i'm inclined to think that's what's going on here, i could be wrong but it's really fucking rare for me to miss undiagnosed autism and i have a really good track record of identifying it, i've personally helped 4 undiagnosed adults discover their condition (3 men, 1 woman), all 4 later acquiring official medical diagnoses and i've yet to miss one that someone else detected so i'm pretty confident in my radar. Io just doesn't come across as autistic to me, but i could be wrong, you'd have to ask Selly if he intends her to be such and that he knows how to actually write one of us well enough to be accurate. I'm entirely unconvinced on all fronts.

What are your thoughts on Yasu when it comes to autism? And I mean the "normal" version that doesn't have her god in her ear.

Based off a few things, and stuff like this:

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I'm assuming she's on the spectrum, but I'm not entirely confident in that due to the god stuff going on.

 

[crustlord12]

What are your thoughts on Yasu when it comes to autism? And I mean the "normal" version that doesn't have her god in her ear.

Based off a few things, and stuff like this:

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I'm assuming she's on the spectrum, but I'm not entirely confident in that due to the god stuff going on.

I genuinely don't see a single character having autism in this game. At all. It just doesn't fit the vibe of it in the slightest, it would feel weird and jarring (and not in the established way)

 

[JelF547]

I'm assuming she's on the spectrum, but I'm not entirely confident in that due to the god stuff going on.

Yasu is sensitive to supernatural stuff medium abused by god. I think real world diagnoses simply would not work with her

 

[DeSkel15]

I genuinely don't see a single character having autism in this game. At all. It just doesn't fit the vibe of it in the slightest, it would feel weird and jarring (and not in the established way)

The only one I'm thinking might, is Yasu, and mostly just due to how she seems to react to certain sensations and situations. Reminds me of someone I know who is diagnosed.

Then again, it could just be a coincidence or some god stuff.

Yasu is sensitive to supernatural stuff medium abused by god. I think real world diagnoses simply would not work with her

Fair point.

We might be seeing some of her past, pre god stuff, soon though, so that might give a better view at how Yasu really is.

 

[Bingoogus]

What are your thoughts on Yasu when it comes to autism? And I mean the "normal" version that doesn't have her god in her ear.

My only thought is 'nope'. There really isn't anyone in the game that gives me even partial vibes, everyone is either neurotypical, dealing with trauma/injury, or just has a bit of an atypical personality.

 

[DeSkel15]

My only thought is 'nope'. There really isn't anyone in the game that gives me even partial vibes, everyone is either neurotypical, dealing with trauma/injury, or just has a bit of an atypical personality.

What would you consider "vibes" if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Riolol]

Armchair diagnoses for everyone! Miku probably has ADHD and PTSD... that's all I got.

 

[Bingoogus]

What would you consider "vibes" if you don't mind me asking?

Autistic behaviours or perceptions, interpreting signals through an autistic filter, recognizing patterns others miss or where there aren't any, biased interpretation of information due to overconfidence in known areas vs rational patience for only building theory off of facts, not conjecture, recurrent errors in logic due to 'not even knowing what you don't know'. The list goes on, vibes is just shorthand for picking up on things that are common with autistics. The more things i pick up on, the more i start to wonder about a person and start actually looking for clear flags.

Also, i tire of talking about this. No offence but i'm just too tired and disinterested to go back and forth.