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Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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barglenarglezous

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DeSkel15 said:
Overall: We might be entering the Ayaneverse.[/SPOILER]
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Building on what you've been suggesting -- Ayane's vomiting during the reset wasn't just being overwhelmed with the horror of what she was experiencing. It was the realization that this is what she had asked for, or was at least the price of getting what she asked for. If she managed to sway the powers that be to reshape the world for her benefit, there had to be a price, and maybe what happened to Ami was part of it.

Because this kind of drastic change to the status quo requires a sacrifice.

And Ayane, being the eternal optimist she is, probably wanted a world that didn't just deliver Sensei to her and her alone on a silver platter, she'd also want her friends to be happy, and very likely even her enemies.

She'd go back and let Kirin win that science fair so Kirin could have a moment to shine for a change.
She'd make sure her roomate still had a brother.
She'd make sure Ami still had a mother -- and possibly a father -- so that she wouldn't become obsessed with sensei
She'd make sure that Futaba is comfortable in her own body.

This is the, at least initially, the good place. The place where Rin isn't cutting, the place where Otoha is proud to be gay (because that new look is %100 lesbian hotness), the place where Chika doesn't have to dye her hair in a desperate attempt to stay close to a dead parent.

It's going to be so wholesome.

And it's all going to go terribly, terribly wrong.
 
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Sreamed "I knew it" when i first saw new designs. They all looks like 1 more year old, aren't they?
DeSkel15 said:
This might actually be a whole new world. I wonder if they'll keep their names?
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DeSkel15 said:
Overall: We might be entering the Ayaneverse.
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Imagine how fucked up was Maya, if this is the difference. BTW I doubt on Ayaneverse because things intended to be much darker that they were and Ayaneverse seems bringhter than Mayaverse from my perception

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Building on what you've been suggesting -- Ayane's vomiting during the reset wasn't just being overwhelmed with the horror of what she was experiencing. It was the realization that this is what she had asked for, or was at least the price of getting what she asked for. If she managed to sway the powers that be to reshape the world for her benefit, there had to be a price, and maybe what happened to Ami was part of it.
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Can you please tell more of context? Last substantional info about this possibility was when Yasu offered it to Ayane before 5th reset, but it might be reasonal if Himawary can also make this offering. The more i think than better it sounds

Upd: Haven't preious world sound more like Amiworld? It would explain a lot, including murdered Ami and Maya's implications about Ami's reaction to reset-related information. In this case, new world might surprisingly be Mayaworld for symmetry reasons. Also, Maya going postal after hearing about resets is hillarious
 
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Ayaneverse.
I buy the idea. You know why?
Do you guys remember the second Matrix movie?
The Architect admits to Neo that the initial versions of The Matrix were actually an utopia.
Everybody was meant to be happy, everybody could have what they wanted.
And everytime it went wrong. Because people were unable to accept this "reality".

Its gonna happen here. Ayane with all her good intentions, made everybody jave a happy life. And at some point all the girls are gonna be unstable AF doubthing things are even real.
 
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I was thinking the Rin Chika hair colour swap is just going to be something music club related. Plus a bit of a time skip.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
Building on what you've been suggesting -- Ayane's vomiting during the reset wasn't just being overwhelmed with the horror of what she was experiencing. It was the realization that this is what she had asked for, or was at least the price of getting what she asked for. If she managed to sway the powers that be to reshape the world for her benefit, there had to be a price, and maybe what happened to Ami was part of it.

Because this kind of drastic change to the status quo requires a sacrifice.

And Ayane, being the eternal optimist she is, probably wanted a world that didn't just deliver Sensei to her and her alone on a silver platter, she'd also want her friends to be happy, and very likely even her enemies.

She'd go back and let Kirin win that science fair so Kirin could have a moment to shine for a change.
She'd make sure her roomate still had a brother.
She'd make sure Ami still had a mother -- and possibly a father -- so that she wouldn't become obsessed with sensei
She'd make sure that Futaba is comfortable in her own body.

This is the, at least initially, the good place. The place where Rin isn't cutting, the place where Otoha is proud to be gay (because that new look is %100 lesbian hotness), the place where Chika doesn't have to dye her hair in a desperate attempt to stay close to a dead parent.

It's going to be so wholesome.

And it's all going to go terribly, terribly wrong.
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I kind of had a problem with the whole event.
Nah, i guess problem doesn't really fit but right now, i can't come up with a better term.

First of all, i did have to laugh when Ayane emptied the content of her stomach into her hands.
I don't know if that was Sel's intention, but the text alone (the puking stuff), was just hilarious.
It just dimnished the impact of (presumably) Ami's death.

There's something else. The possibility, that Himawari was involved in that event.
She already felt bad about taking "her mother's" shape.
So if she really was involved in setting up Ami's (fake) death, while knowing what impact it might have on her mother, i wonder how serious it must have been, that she was "ok" to do that.
 
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Something else i'm wondering.

I agree with people here, that the updated girls seem more lively.
Like better versions of their prior selfes. Like, at leat most of them seem to be in a better mental state. Though, that might just be my subjective impression.

But we all know that there is "The Dark Route" ahead of us.
Do we really get a prolonged time of majorly, "everything goes right now"?
Or is Sel just setting up the stage for a major impact?
Giving his audience a short period of "almost everything feels nice and comfy", to brutally hammer it all down?
 
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Bingoogus said:
God, how does she qualify as fat in anyone's head? She's got like 2 to 5 kilograms on her at most... i wouldn't even call her chubby.
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She is fat by Asian standards. The only reason why she doesn't seem fat is because most of the time the camera points at her face and her face has perfect form.
You also have to consider her body when compared to her other classmates.
 
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Commander One is a very good
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These new character designs are interesting, could be a whole new world, could just be how the girls dress in the spring.
 
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BlackDays said:
Please, if you quote me, don't make it look like what i said was directed at JelF547, which it was not.
I assume that one was just a mistake.

You're right with what you say about forums, or conversations in general. That was also an aspect of what i tried to convey.
It just did not come out of nowhere. This was something going on for a longer time. But there's no use to go into detail.

Could it have gone better? Pretty much. Do i blame him all alone? Totally not, as we here say, it needs two for a fight.
Saying "This is so anoying", was a poor chose of wording. It wasn't directed at his post, but about how i felt about the whole situation and the need to say what i said.

And with that, i don't think there is anything more to add to the topic. That thing is done.
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Yeah, sorry about that, it was a mistake. I just hit the reply and started typing so no idea how that happened lol. Also I like seeing all the theory crafting and conversation you guys have in here so as a person who mostly lurks in here I'd like to thank you and everyone else who invests all this time into putting out all this information. And again sorry for the mistake.
 
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JelF547 said:
Upd: Haven't preious world sound more like Amiworld? It would explain a lot, including murdered Ami and Maya's implications about Ami's reaction to reset-related information. In this case, new world might surprisingly be Mayaworld for symmetry reasons. Also, Maya going postal after hearing about resets is hillarious
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It's just a theory, but the world we've been in could definitely have been the Amiverse. The recent GU Ami glitch does seem to suggest that Maya was simply a character while Ami existed beyond that:
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It's also rather clear that Ami was capable of more than she let on:
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Ami may have been just trying to not take advantage of Sensei:
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Even though she more or less knew all the cheat codes. Kind of like a god wanting to be chosen instead of forcing everyone to choose it.

She also seemed to imply she was the main character more than once:
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Of course, she also seemed to have limitations:
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And after trying to be less clingy:
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Well, this happened:
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It seems like Ami may have let down her guard and something took advantage of that.

Now, as for the Mayaverse:
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