Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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DeSkel15

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Eromo said:
Okay, I'm having a problem understanding something in, 'The Legacy of Thaum Pt. I' when everyone is playing DnD. Rin is a Warlock with a d8 and has been failing all her checks for perception and attack by rolling a 5, I'm assuming 5 is below the threshold to land a hit. Later she finally rolls a 6 and tries to use the ranged attack Eldritch Blast, but Molly says the attack modifier for that spell is +5 and so she actually rolled a natural-1. WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN. I don't know much about DnD, but I'm pretty sure you can't roll negatives. Even if it was a typo or something and she said natural 1, how does that make sense? Shouldn't positive attack modifiers add to the damage not take it away? And she only rolled once to see if it would hit she didn't roll again for the attack damage So what does the attack modifier do here? This is driving me insane.

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Not a DnD expert but supposedly a natural 1 is an instant miss.

Molly logic is saying Rin rolled that, instead of a 6, because Eldritch Blast would give her an extra 5. Instead of adding 5 to 6, she's adding 5 to 1 to get 6 and saying Rin actually rolled a 1, retroactively, which is an instant miss, nullifying her hit.

No clue if that's "legal", but Molly is the DM, and no one argued, so it probably doesn't matter.

Edit: At least that's what I think. Never actually played DnD, though.
 
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Eromo said:
Okay, I'm having a problem understanding something in, 'The Legacy of Thaum Pt. I' when everyone is playing DnD. Rin is a Warlock with a d8 and has been failing all her checks for perception and attack by rolling a 5, I'm assuming 5 is below the threshold to land a hit. Later she finally rolls a 6 and tries to use the ranged attack Eldritch Blast, but Molly says the attack modifier for that spell is +5 and so she actually rolled a natural-1. WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN. I don't know much about DnD, but I'm pretty sure you can't roll negatives. Even if it was a typo or something and she said natural 1, how does that make sense? Shouldn't positive attack modifiers add to the damage not take it away? And she only rolled once to see if it would hit she didn't roll again for the attack damage So what does the attack modifier do here? This is driving me insane.

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For attack rolls you roll a d20 and then add modifiers. Dnd players will say "I rolled an x"(the die result) or "I got an x"(the die plus modifiers) and understand which is being talked about from context. As Deskel said if you roll a 1 on the die you automatically miss no matter what modifiers you have. You also automatically hit on a natural 20.
The attack roll is just to see if the attack hits or misses; damage is rolled after using a separate die. Warlock being a d8 class is referring to how much health her character has.
There are different dice and modifiers for everything in DnD but it all makes sense in the end. Really.
 
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Finally finished this story from start. Spent months on it.

I'm gonna say that it really sucks that almost all of it is fluff writing with non-existent pacing and constant 4th wall breakage. Also all characters (including grown-ups) think and do as one would at age of 13.

I'm regretful of all the time I spent on this, but want the core of the story to exist in it's best possible way. Luckily, there's this thread with Deskel who remembers everything and is not afraid to use it.
 
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Maya: "I'm the unluckiest girl in the world"
Rin "At least you can roll higher than a 5"
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Okay, i was actually mostly joking, but maybe there is something more there. I mean, Rin was adopted, and at least from the limited information we have, we can assume that Maya's parents are not part of the picture for whatever reason. Maya can do anything with the man she loves, out of fear to melt him, Rin didnt got Chika. Yeah, it is quite thin right now i admit, i have to think more about this if there is more what would connect them.
 
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Regardless of whether or not the scene is right or wrong, or shows how unlucky Rin is, I don't think the number 5 there was ever deliberate or coincidental.
given that Sel likes to put hidden lore into several of the roleplay sessions, what is the backbone of this game for Akira to progress all the events in either love or lust, that's right, it's in multiples of 5,
and seeing how in some parts and in happy events they talk about how you have to sacrifice affection and lust and their whole system is something that the gods themselves are aware of such laws in the world, or even more so they designed that system.
 
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Hm, and Maya can now be together with the man she loves. Even tho that was a high price to pay. So lets say Rin becomes now lucky. What will be her price to pay? :unsure:
 
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Eromo said:
Okay, I'm having a problem understanding something in, 'The Legacy of Thaum Pt. I' when everyone is playing DnD. Rin is a Warlock with a d8 and has been failing all her checks for perception and attack by rolling a 5, I'm assuming 5 is below the threshold to land a hit. Later she finally rolls a 6 and tries to use the ranged attack Eldritch Blast, but Molly says the attack modifier for that spell is +5 and so she actually rolled a natural-1. WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT MEAN. I don't know much about DnD, but I'm pretty sure you can't roll negatives. Even if it was a typo or something and she said natural 1, how does that make sense? Shouldn't positive attack modifiers add to the damage not take it away? And she only rolled once to see if it would hit she didn't roll again for the attack damage So what does the attack modifier do here? This is driving me insane.

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My time has come!

Molly doesn't say "negative 1," she says "Natural 1."

Common D&D speak -- "Natural" means "that's the number showing on the die," while "modified" would be "the number on the die + any modifers applied." A natural 1 always misses, and a natural 20 always crits (or creates the potential for a crit that has to be confirmed by a second roll, depending on which edition you're playing).

The sequence of play is -- roll to hit, add modifers, and compare the result against the opponents armor class. So when she asks "does a 6 hit" she means she's added the modifier already, and Molly caught on to the nuance.

Note: AC starts at 10 and goes up from there, which is why 5 almost never hits, but a 6 (modified to 11) might.
 
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I knew that frog looked familiar! There definitely could be a connection to Frog Boy in there somewhere. Nao-chan is just a weird character to figure out right now... I like her a lot, but definitely weird. Take the latest update for example, during Kirin's event, "Rubber Traits".

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Not to mention at the end of the same event, she appears and waves to the audience, breaking the fourth wall. I checked if this appears in the replays, but it doesn't.

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What's your game, Nao-chan??
 
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I think it is, nice catch
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I knew that frog looked familiar! There definitely could be a connection to Frog Boy in there somewhere. Nao-chan is just a weird character to figure out right now... I like her a lot, but definitely weird. Take the latest update for example, during Kirin's event, "Rubber Traits".

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Not to mention at the end of the same event, she appears and waves to the audience, breaking the fourth wall. I checked if this appears in the replays, but it doesn't.

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What's your game, Nao-chan??
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That girl worries me
 
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