Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Would someone bring the timeline thing again? I'm really confused especially since Noriko and Niki keep mentioning ages and they don't seem to sync up. Somewhere where we could see their ages would help as well.

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I have a few pertinent questions not directly related to age. The house they live now is Sekai and Nozomu's old house, right? Cause if so, Akira has been sleeping the entire time on Sekai and Nozomu's bed? yikes. Second question, did Akira live alone as a teenager in the old district? What about his parents, and why did Sekai and Nozomu even leave their old house if there was only a teenager living there? Third question, did Akira go through university? Cause that's also a hole in the timeline.

 

[DeSkel15]

Would someone bring the timeline thing again? I'm really confused especially since Noriko and Niki keep mentioning ages and they don't seem to sync up. Somewhere where we could see their ages would help as well.

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I have a few pertinent questions not directly related to age. The house they live now is Sekai and Nozomu's old house, right? Cause if so, Akira has been sleeping the entire time on Sekai and Nozomu's bed? yikes. Second question, did Akira live alone as a teenager in the old district? What about his parents, and why did Sekai and Nozomu even leave their old house if there was only a teenager living there? Third question, did Akira go through university? Cause that's also a hole in the timeline.

Sensei ghosted Niki 8 years ago:

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Not at least 10.

Noriko is a little older than Ami, and the accident happened when Ami was 7.

Sensei had likely been tutoring Noriko since she was 6, took a break when she was 7 due to the accident, continued to tutor her seemingly within months after it, and Maya had showed up, then he tutored them until about 4 years ago. So, until they were probably around 11 to 12. (Maya is one of the youngest).

Ami was 7 when the accident happened, and he's likely been with her since.

Niki was around 16, and Sensei 18, when they dated for 5 years, then the accident happened when Niki was 21 and Sensei 23.

After disappearing around 4 years ago on Noriko, she seemed to find Sensei again almost 3 years ago (on a Thursday) and something happened, but it's not clear.

8 years after the accident and ghosting Niki, is the present. Sensei is 31, Niki is 29, Noriko is 16, Ami is 15 shortly before her bday, then she's 16, and Maya is 15 until New Years Day. They are also in the year 2020.

 

[Moonflare]

Sensei ghosted Niki 8 years ago:

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Not at least 10.

Noriko is a few months older than Ami, and the accident happened when Ami was 7.

Sensei had likely been tutoring Noriko since she was 6, took a break when she was 7 due to the accident, continued to tutor her seemingly within months after it, and Maya had showed up, then he tutored them until about 4 years ago. So, until they were probably around 11 to 12. (Maya is one of the youngest).

Ami was 7 when the accident happened, and he's likely been with her since.

Niki was around 16, and Sensei 18, when they dated for 5 years, then the accident happened when Niki was 21 and Sensei 23.

After disappearing around 4 years ago on Noriko, she seemed to find Sensei again almost 3 years ago (on a Thursday) and something happened, but it's not clear.

8 years after the accident and ghosting Niki, is the present. Sensei is 31, Niki is 29, Noriko is 16, Ami is 15 shortly before her bday, then she's 16, and Maya is 15 until New Years Day. They are also in the year 2020.

Thanks as always, that helps a lot. I usually can work my way around things, but I really suck at math. Also there should be a "taking notes" emoji or something cause that's pretty much what I do most of the time.

 

[Moonflare]

You know, it just occurred to me that at this point in time (first winter) Noriko knows Akira had sex with Maya, and he has no idea. I don't remember if this becomes a topic in conversation between her and him, or with Maya (other than WAY later, when she says she's not jealous of being molested). But it is interesting.

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Stopping to think about it, she probably thinks it's a very good thing and would rather not have him remember that part of things though. I'm not even sure how she'd approach it "hey man, I presume you have no recollection of this, but you used to be a predator to this one wizard with a watermelon fetish".

 

[DeSkel15]

Missed this part:

I have a few pertinent questions not directly related to age. The house they live now is Sekai and Nozomu's old house, right? Cause if so, Akira has been sleeping the entire time on Sekai and Nozomu's bed? yikes. Second question, did Akira live alone as a teenager in the old district? What about his parents, and why did Sekai and Nozomu even leave their old house if there was only a teenager living there? Third question, did Akira go through university? Cause that's also a hole in the timeline.

Sekai and Nozomu may have just lived at Grandma's House (Saki's). I don't recall Sensei's current house being said to be anyone's notable.

Ami has mentioned plants from their old house:

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So, it's likely their current house is just a different house than her family's old house, which may have just been Grandma's in the Old District.

It would also explain why the Nakayamas remember Ami, as she was possibly living right by them until she was 7, and probably suppressed a lot, after watching her parents get torn to shreds in front of her.

Sensei seemed to have had an apartment after moving out, which is where he tutored (possibly got it in his early 20s). Likely moved secretly with Ami, after the accident and ghosting Niki (around 23), which is why the Nakayamas couldn't find him.

Sensei would later become a teacher after tutoring, and Tsubasa seems to suggest he's legitimate:

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So, he was probably becoming a Teacher when he was around 27 to 31, but may have been preparing way before that.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Hey, you know, Pareidolia chapter already let Molly and Sana do blowjobs. And I'm sure that at least Touka will be intimate with Akira too.
I think it is possible that this chapter will lead Akira to become intimate with many girls who were not previously intimate with him.

 

[Xiondingens]

I think it is possible that this chapter will lead Akira to become intimate with many girls who were not previously intimate with him.

Because she got only one event in the roadmap, i am afraid that still wont include ron.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I can't recall what every god was responsible for but hasn't wires been good so far? He's fixes things when they break and he was the one who gave Sensei his memory with Niki. Maybe hes done some bad stuff that I don't remember? I really have no idea, I had no clue what I was reading the first time around.

I do know that HOPE fucking sucks though. It's not clear why the gods want what they want but one moment that sticks out in my mind is when he called Yasu retarded. It sticks out because there is no way it was necessary and it's such a hateful thing to say about someone who has only been a loyal follower to him. Then he taunted Senei and made Yasu soil herself. That whole event just made me feel really bad for Yasu. How do you convince a fanatic to ditch their abusive god?

Thank god for Touka though. Seeing Yasu smile when Touka shows up always warms my heart.

I had a hard time believing whatever spoke through Yaus that night was HOPE. Not only did it sound very colloquial instead of mystical, the direct verbal assault toward Sensei such as "GET REAL, FUCKER" and "Eat shit and die" is so uncharacteristic that I don't even know how to align it with any god or any paranormal entity we have in the pool. At the time I was guessing it might be his human brother, Nozomu Arakawa, because he might be the only person/entity that could have any reason to exhibit such hostility, but don't quote me on this as I was only thinking about any potential incentive and completely disregarding whether his brother showing up like this is remotely possible or not.

As for Wire god, he is the one that can do this so don't put all your money on him just yet lol

The Wire god/USER2 seemed to be implied to be responsible for the Scary Room that Maya went through, and Molly being raped, but Pareidolia may have been impersonating it, since it can apparently copy the others.

Pretty sure Pareidolia is just voicing out how capable and powerful it has become compared to the two senpais before it, and not insinuating any past event was also from its doing, especially during the time when it didn't have its own season and wasn't powerful enough to perform such feat. At least from Karin incident, what I get is that this "same trick" is pulled twice but by different USERS.

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[TheSeedy1]

God that Karin event still haunts me. Of all the girls to ever hurt, not her

Edit: I also really want to get a better glimpse of how Wires is involved in Tsuneyo's life - like is she ACTUALLY his daughter or something else? Tsuneyo is one of the biggest enigmas of the girls. Her ability to flip from weird language to perfectly clear is immensely interesting.

Edit 2: Well shit, spoke literally one scene too soon - whoa Tsuneyo hang in there girl.

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[Breadtaker]

The Wire god/USER2 seemed to be implied to be responsible for the Scary Room that Maya went through, and Molly being raped, but Pareidolia may have been impersonating it, since it can apparently copy the others. It also seems to hate Maya, so, trying to traumatize her, seems up it's alley. (May also be The World Itself, as if it's meant to be Sekai, then Sekai seems to hate Maya as well:

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Or at least one does. Probably the one in Kaori considering Kaori ignored Maya.)

Besides that, it doesn't seem all that bad. More of a just doing it's job kind of thing.

I also don't think it was HOPE who called Yasu retarded. This is what HOPE possessing Yasu seems to look like and act:

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HOPE isn't exactly nice to Yasu, but doesn't seem hateful of her or judgemental of Sensei for wanting to fuck her etc.

On the other hand:

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My bets are on this Sekai thing influencing Yasu. Might also be the World Itself that's been mentioned, most notably in Yasu's Chapter 3 Event:

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Which happened to be when Yasu couldn't hear HOPE/her god.

I assumed only HOPE controlled Yasu but no, I think you're completely right. The sunflower and eyes should have been a bigger giveaway.
I feel a little bit better about HOPE which still leaves me somewhere around "extremly concerned". Thanks for making sense of this.

I had a hard time believing whatever spoke through Yaus that night was HOPE. Not only did it sound very colloquial instead of mystical, the direct verbal assault toward Sensei such as "GET REAL, FUCKER" and "Eat shit and die" is so uncharacteristic that I don't even know how to align it with any god or any paranormal entity we have in the pool. At the time I was guessing it might be his human brother, Nozomu Arakawa, because he might be the only person/entity that could have any reason to exhibit such hostility, but don't quote me on this as I was only thinking about any potential incentive and completely disregarding whether his brother showing up like this is remotely possible or not.

As for Wire god, he is the one that can do this so don't put all your money on him just yet lol
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That's an interesting idea. I'm eager to learn more about Sensei's brother but I'm not confident he'll end up being anything more than context for Sekai's relationship with Senei. The hostility is strange though so his brother would certainly explain it.

Maybe I'll be surprised and we'll see our first non-Sensei male character model.

 

[Nadekai]

Why does Kaori ignore Maya?

 

[DeSkel15]

Pretty sure Pareidolia is just voicing out how capable and powerful it has become compared to the two senpais before it, and not insinuating any past event was also from its doing, especially during the time when it didn't have its own season and wasn't powerful enough to perform such feat. At least from Karin incident, what I get is that this "same trick" is pulled twice but by different USERS.

Spoiler: Paranoid

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Pareidolia seems to likely just be gaslighting. Only Pareidolia has claimed others did this.

First it claims it was USER2 (///// guy), then says USER2 wanted Sensei to think it was HOPE (caps lock guy) (which doesn't make much sense at all), then says they all do everything, and that thinking about it, makes it not make sense... after it bragged about it's power, which according to it, is something they all could do, which makes bragging seem a little pointless.

It's basically just saying "it wasn't me, but don't think about it, and make sure to blame the others".

The only one that's actually shown it can and would do this, is Pareidolia. It can apparently do most things. Even before it's season, it showed that it could change appearance and the way it communicated:

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Then when it got what it wanted (Sensei connected, Spring, own Chapter), it immediately revealed it could apparently do whatever.

Could be wrong, but I wouldn't take it at it's word, and there's likely a reason it didn't have a season and wasn't accepted by the others.

Pareidolia definitely likes fucking with Sensei and the player:

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It doesn't seem able to actually affect the stats of the girls, at least. Just pretend it does, like how something pretended it did with Molly, and recently Karin.

It also seems to like pretending it can mess with saves, or that the game ended, because I guess that's fun for it.

 

[Nadekai]

Is sexual intercourse with Ionizer even possible?
Like... does she refuse vehemently, or is there a sliver of a chance?

 

[Riolol]

Why does Kaori ignore Maya?

Probably due to Sekai's influence

 

[Nadekai]

Probably due to Sekai's influence

Why does Sekai hate Maya in the first place

 

[Riolol]

Why does Sekai hate Maya in the first place

In a word: Jealousy. Maya's "death" affected him almost as badly as Sekai's did. I'd bet they hate each other more than any other two characters in the game.

 

[Nadekai]

In a word: Jealousy. Maya's "death" affected him almost as badly as Sekai's did. I'd bet they hate each other more than any other two characters in the game.

What would Sekai be even jealous of? Didn't she abuse Akira? Also, Maya died (not her getting fucked out of existence)?

 

[Riolol]

What would Sekai be even jealous of? Didn't she abuse Akira? Also, Maya died (not her getting fucked out of existence)?

I think she'd be jealous of anyone having that level of influence over him that wasn't her or possibly Ami. Also that is what I meant, Maya "died".

 

[Nadekai]

I think she'd be jealous of anyone having that level of influence over him that wasn't her or possibly Ami. Also that is what I meant, Maya "died".

Wdym Ami? Ami is best niece, she is pure and innocent!

 

[Riolol]

Wdym Ami? Ami is best niece, she is pure and innocent!

I do wonder how Sekai (the alive version) would react to Sensei porking her daughter, would she be proud? Jealous? Angry? Indifferent?