LessonsInDissonance

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So, one of the things that hasn't been made clear yet is what exactly Maya did (that made her into a bad person). I was rewatching Noriko's conversation with Maya on the second beach trip, and the possibility for blackmail from Maya increased.
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I think it's interesting because this conversation points out that Maya did some fucked up shit to get Akira away from Noriko (actually from Niki and Sekai), and that she was more or less in the same position as Ami in being a child trying to care for a broken adult. She tried to get him to move past them, but he was unable to, so they became these sources of fear for Maya (that she could do nothing about, but avoid).

Overall both of them want him to be healthy, but also not so healthy that he doesn't need them anymore - probably because if that day ever came to pass, then both Ami and Maya would also have to grow, and deal with the fact that Akira may simply not want to engage with them in a romantic manner (he could, but the possibility has got to be really scary for two people that have no one else in the world).
Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES
 

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The mentioning of a Harem Tierlist, had me interested. Here's my take on most of the characters when it comes to relationships, in Chapter 4:
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Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.
 

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Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.
 
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Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.
It's less Kirin being jealous of others and more her disliking Sensei choosing others over her, because she's not enough.

Kirin also tends to want multiple partners for herself, as well as Sensei, and she's usually molesting/crushing on Noriko in the background, flirting with Imani, and thinking about fucking Karin when she's not masturbating to her nudes, etc.

For example, after her "not enough" stuff, Kirin blackmailed Sensei and Touka to kiss at Halloween, and in her recent pic (right before Halloween) she tries to trade Karin nudes for a video of Sensei fucking another girl:
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Basically Kirin is Pro Harem, but also wants to be "enough" by herself...which is as paradoxical as it sounds.
 

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Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.
Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.
 

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Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.
It's from Gallow's Edge, which is the event that follows Lavender's Green. But I mean, could be, who knows.
 

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Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:
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And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:
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So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
 
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Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:
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And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:
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So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
Molly has a lot of self-esteem issues, so I guess it could go either way. Maybe she embraces perversion only in the safety of Akira's solo embrace or go full pervert.

I'd also like to use this opportunity to talk a bit about Molly (that I forgot to mention on my post on Lavender's Green).
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My point is, of all the characters, Molly is probably one of the few that would be able to accept, understand and move over from what Akira did, even if it was worse than it was. So, yeah, Akira probably overcomplicated something that could have been resolved very easily.
 

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So after a 2 year+ break where I thought the game was just nuked from orbit, I finally caught up last night. I have my own theories, but would love to see what smarter people have put together that I have not. Is there some Matt Patt level breakdown of the lore so far somewhere or large info dumps from random users I should look at for commonly agreed upon lore or themes?
 

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So after a 2 year+ break where I thought the game was just nuked from orbit, I finally caught up last night. I have my own theories, but would love to see what smarter people have put together that I have not. Is there some Matt Patt level breakdown of the lore so far somewhere or large info dumps from random users I should look at for commonly agreed upon lore or themes?
Search for stuff from DeSkel15, fdsasef_p, Bingoogus, and Moonflare. They always have good lore conversations, and (most of) their past comments are worth a read.
 

Moonflare

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Search for stuff from DeSkel15, fdsasef_p, Bingoogus, and Moonflare. They always have good lore conversations, and (most of) their past comments are worth a read.
Gonna thank you for the mention given that I'm new here, and would like to point out that DeSkel15 really goes the extra mile, and I can only wish I had the dedication to transcribe every quote as he does - cause it really helps when reading on the mobile.
So after a 2 year+ break where I thought the game was just nuked from orbit, I finally caught up last night. I have my own theories, but would love to see what smarter people have put together that I have not. Is there some Matt Patt level breakdown of the lore so far somewhere or large info dumps from random users I should look at for commonly agreed upon lore or themes?
you could also line up some topics or specific questions and we can all create a conversation from there. Past week has been a lot about Nodoka in general (given Nodokathon) - and we could all use another topic.
 

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Gonna thank you for the mention given that I'm new here, and would like to point out that DeSkel15 really goes the extra mile, and I can only wish I had the dedication to transcribe every quote as he does - cause it really helps when reading on the mobile.


you could also line up some topics or specific questions and we can all create a conversation from there. Past week has been a lot about Nodoka in general (given Nodokathon) - and we could all use another topic.
This game had 2y hiatus?
 
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