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I just made it all up pretty cool to see everyone talking about a random conspiracy
I trusted you! I did believe you did draw attention to something i havent noticed because the gods are the worst impleted part of the whole story i barely can pay attention to without press the crtl key hard.
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Alright look, the thing is that when I said to swap the names of the girls, I said it so that people noticed that it looked like a parallel to what the gods were doing with Akira. I wasn't exactly lying, just giving people some hints. Of course they are not HOPE and WIRES but there's a big secret hereI trusted you! I did believe you did draw attention to something i havent noticed because the gods are the worst impleted part of the whole story i barely can pay attention to without press the crtl key hard.
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Fortunately, I'm immune to any of these tricks because I already know that the HOPE we see is a fake. AmIOkay points out that he and the angels start glitching and repeating the same things over and over, that the child born from her and Akira is called HOPE, which they then teach how to reset the world for them, and most importantly, that HOPE is the thing with feathers.I jest. But you still got me with that post.
Therefore, we can only assume that the current HOPE is a sham, while the real one is manifested and acting to protect his friends.
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May you all rest easy now that the mystery is solved. Praise be.
EDIT: guys, this is a joke, c'mon
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After the death ball incident, I don't think anyone can win against Tsuneyo in a physical fight. Osako has techniques though, so maybe if Tsuneyo doesn't have her katanas there'd be some fight there. Then again, if we're including weapons, Ayane has automatic rifles and is immune to bullets (probably due to Himawari).
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Hope calling himself "The thing with feathers" is pretty much a pun to discribe it's name.
From wiki:
"Hope" is the thing with feathers
"'Hope' is the thing with feathers" is a lyric poem in ballad meter written by American poet Emily Dickinson.
We know Sel has a thing for poems, it's all over the place.
Doesn't make Hope bird related, unless that was the purpose for including the relation.
I also didn't read the article, so maybe there is more to it, like, what the poem(s) is/are about. But i personally don't think so.
But at least Maya is very likely in cahoots with one or more gods.
As someone else pointed already out "The Scary Room" seems to imply this.
Another thing is the four colored silhouettes somewhere during a happy/reset event, i think after solving one of the puzzles.
They applaud him for making it there: "You did it", "We knew you'd make it", something like that.
If you look into the files (i think it's definitions.rpy) the color codes used for those four match exactly four girls/women we know.
One of them is Maya.
I'm not really sure what thats supposed to mean, but it puts those four at least in a different league.
Could make them the four gods, could tie them to the four gods. Could be Sel trying to confuse people.
From wiki:
"Hope" is the thing with feathers
"'Hope' is the thing with feathers" is a lyric poem in ballad meter written by American poet Emily Dickinson.
We know Sel has a thing for poems, it's all over the place.
Doesn't make Hope bird related, unless that was the purpose for including the relation.
I also didn't read the article, so maybe there is more to it, like, what the poem(s) is/are about. But i personally don't think so.
Or you did it because subconsciously you remembered something, or you're afraid because it seems silly.
But at least Maya is very likely in cahoots with one or more gods.
As someone else pointed already out "The Scary Room" seems to imply this.
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Another thing is the four colored silhouettes somewhere during a happy/reset event, i think after solving one of the puzzles.
They applaud him for making it there: "You did it", "We knew you'd make it", something like that.
If you look into the files (i think it's definitions.rpy) the color codes used for those four match exactly four girls/women we know.
One of them is Maya.
I'm not really sure what thats supposed to mean, but it puts those four at least in a different league.
Could make them the four gods, could tie them to the four gods. Could be Sel trying to confuse people.
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Well, this is very interesting, isn't it? On the night he recovers his first memory (through Niki's letters), Yasu tells Akira Maya was waiting for him on the roof (also that summer is coming, and that the rumbling has stopped), and when he gets there we have: Maya on one building, Noodles on a billboard, and Himawari just chilling on yet another building.
So, yeah, Noodles and Himawari (USER2 and USER4/who the hell knows?) just chilling through Akira being able to recover who he was for the first time ever, and Maya completely out of the loop. Make of it what you will.
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So, yeah, Noodles and Himawari (USER2 and USER4/who the hell knows?) just chilling through Akira being able to recover who he was for the first time ever, and Maya completely out of the loop. Make of it what you will.
Didn't Makoto take on the scribbled/static eyes between her suicide and the reset?
If the sort of undeath between being resurrected and actually having everything put back in proper order is what we're hypothesizing the wishing well is now, then probably the later.
Also remember that after the reset, other than I think Akira and Maki, nobody, including Makoto seems to remember that entire debacle where she was just broken after she killed herself. Similar to how memories of the previous incarnation of Akira are fleeting and few, and those of the one before seemingly gone altogether for everyone but Maya prime. So possibly similar logic.
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John actually seemed to get depowered by Frog Boy, human frog:
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Sensei's eyes seemed to change after Sekai's death:
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Btw, Noodles and The Shapeshifter/Himawari may actually be working with Sekai:
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She seemed to regret it afterwards though, if this was her:
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Just finished rewatching Somnambula, which is the string of events Sekai's name is finally revealed and my god. What a ride.
So I'm not an expert on Ami, therefore most of this is new to me. But as she tries to read one of Sekai's poems, she breaks for a few seconds. Then when riding the bus back home something takes hold of her, and she keeps saying she sees the light, and that they're being tested to see if they're worth of heaven, and asking if Akira believes in god. All very HOPE things to say.
BUT!
So let's recap: All this happens in the last stretch of Winter, during chapter 2. Also, the context of this sequence is that Kaori got lost in the old district and went to Tojo's with Akira. She started fighting a lot with Tsuneyo and when a blackout happened she disappeared. The very next day, Sekai appears to wake Akira (but it's just Ami wearing her clothes - she reveals that she went into the attic and opened her boxes). When Akira and Ami visit Sekai's grave, Sekai not only appears but her name is revealed (and she leaves saying she had shit to do).
Then Ami goes on a date with Akira and after breaking for a few second from reading Sekai's poems (and Sekai saying she had shit to do), Ami suffers the influence of something that talks about heaven, light and HOPE stuff, but IS NOT HOPE. Well, what is it? Cause its intentions seem to have Akira become a King in its place, or at least live in a world post-resets with her.
So I'm not an expert on Ami, therefore most of this is new to me. But as she tries to read one of Sekai's poems, she breaks for a few seconds. Then when riding the bus back home something takes hold of her, and she keeps saying she sees the light, and that they're being tested to see if they're worth of heaven, and asking if Akira believes in god. All very HOPE things to say.
BUT!
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So let's recap: All this happens in the last stretch of Winter, during chapter 2. Also, the context of this sequence is that Kaori got lost in the old district and went to Tojo's with Akira. She started fighting a lot with Tsuneyo and when a blackout happened she disappeared. The very next day, Sekai appears to wake Akira (but it's just Ami wearing her clothes - she reveals that she went into the attic and opened her boxes). When Akira and Ami visit Sekai's grave, Sekai not only appears but her name is revealed (and she leaves saying she had shit to do).
Then Ami goes on a date with Akira and after breaking for a few second from reading Sekai's poems (and Sekai saying she had shit to do), Ami suffers the influence of something that talks about heaven, light and HOPE stuff, but IS NOT HOPE. Well, what is it? Cause its intentions seem to have Akira become a King in its place, or at least live in a world post-resets with her.
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Does Seb have a direct donation paypal or something or if I want to give him 100 bucks do I just need to subscribestar then cancel? I threw him some bones before when I thought the game was nuked from orbit, but after playing catch up, dude deserves more of my money. Got more fun out his vn than most triple A games and shit's only 4/10th done apparently.
Plus I need to send a message about how much I love this game and how he needs to send my waifu back asap. My little heart cant take it.
Plus I need to send a message about how much I love this game and how he needs to send my waifu back asap. My little heart cant take it.
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This is such a specific question I'm gonna go straight to you DeSkel15, during The Light of Last Summer, which is the reset to bring summer back at the end of chapter 2, HOPE says this to Akira:
If HOPE wants something that Wires gave Akira during this current Winter, there's really not a lot. If it isn't, then Maya, Yumi, maybe even Kaori? I don't see how Wires would have given him Kaori or Yumi though. Maybe Maya if Maya was given to him a million years ago and HOPE's just revealing it now. But he has AmIOkay, which is basically like Maya or the actual Maya, I need help.
Maybe it's less a person, and more that Wires helped restore his memories (if that's what happened at all)? A wild answer would be Himawari - but I don't think those hold either.
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If HOPE wants something that Wires gave Akira during this current Winter, there's really not a lot. If it isn't, then Maya, Yumi, maybe even Kaori? I don't see how Wires would have given him Kaori or Yumi though. Maybe Maya if Maya was given to him a million years ago and HOPE's just revealing it now. But he has AmIOkay, which is basically like Maya or the actual Maya, I need help.
Maybe it's less a person, and more that Wires helped restore his memories (if that's what happened at all)? A wild answer would be Himawari - but I don't think those hold either.
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Meh. The eyes should be on spinning wheels then.
I'm more interested in what God she believes in. I don't think she ever mentions Jesus Christ, I know for sure some characters use his name, for example "Jesus!", when they're suddenly scared, but not in common situations.
There is already a game wit canon accurate angels anyway. So if he would do that, HE would be the one stealing. You know, the thing he made a big deal out of it just an update ago.
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I don't think you can "creatively claim/steal" a biblically accurate angel. Besides, archangels, for example, do look like real humans, not like eye-wheels.
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It's not clear, but it seems to involve Visual abilities.
It was said that the Calm god could alter Visuals while the Callous could not:
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In the 'Word of the Day' Chapter 2 Main Event (3rd Reset), The Calm god/USER2 notes it can guide Sensei's vision:
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This may even refer to things such as viewing past memories as Sensei later does, when he watches the memory of the first night he and Niki kissed which seemed thanks to USER2/Calm:
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During the Chapter 2 'The Light of Last Summer' Main Event, HOPE refers to Sensei's eyes, and seems to want to know what he sees:
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This also seems to fit how Yasu worships and supports her god by blindfolding herself and seemingly giving up her vision and memories to it. Not to mention how HOPE and Yasu's god seem to have a theme of many eyes. Of course, Sensei/Us can apparently only see two on HOPE:
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In Theory, HOPE wants this so that He can fix Sensei and everything:
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Edit: The Cap wearing silhouette hasn't been explained but could be symbolizing someone Sensei knew, or possibly even Sensei when he blacks out. He used to black out on Maya even before the Resets, so it could simply be HOPE's attempt at returning memories to Sensei.
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He has whined so much about people stealing his ideas that he basically nuked the fourth wall into orbit, that i would call it stealing anyway without even a second hesitation. Like granny always said, act like a little bitch and you get treated like a little bitch.