Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

Koikatsu party, surprised you haven't seen it before, there's like 500 AVN's on this site that use it.

Most of them haven't put much work into making the characters look half-decent, so if your first exposure to KK is one of the half-assed games, its easy to assume that the ones that don't look like shit have to be something else.

 

[micemerald]

First and foremost, several things here you claimed to observe are unconfirmed: Sekai's presence in Am I Awake?, Sekai henceforth getting pregnant, or that room being Sekai's room. In fact for the room it's more implied to be Sensei's childhood room. As for the first two, give us your thought on why you think Sekai was there.

Spoiler: Room

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Egg is something heavily used in LiL but its meaning or implication has not been revealed; assuming that egg is someone or something is simply too early.

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this reference you quoted? I don't see how you arrive to your conclusion with this dialogue, especially the "Sekai's return via being born from Ami". It might be a hot theory but this reference doesn't really support it until you do your part of articulation.

Well, for starters, what “Ami” said to Sensei + during the sex scene, the background changed to something similar to a grave, and Akira feels as if Ami’s insides are turning into something completely different......

Spoiler: Things are not as you see

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Then, by the way, it becomes clearer why Sekai often appears with Nodles and Himawari, who is also his daughter in this world.

Although if this is his room, then everything becomes even more unclear.

 

[DeSkel15]

Some Random Sekai stuff for those interested, since I just felt compelled to do this:

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[DeSkel15]

And back to "who the hell is this narrator" game:

Spoiler: irregular heartbeat

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I mean, this has to be Maya, right? It can't be Himawari. It can't be Sekai either. They had a home together, she laid on his chest, it was clearly a relationship where he had more power. I guess it could be Ami, but Ami would never have become forgettable.

Maya had a home with him, actually, it was her only home. Akira was her first and only love. She became a lifejacket to him after Sekai died. The implications about his are huge though. Cause if it is Maya, then Maya prime survived and is somehow observing the cycles as well.

Also, regarding their first meeting being on that vendingmachine she takes him too after carrying boxes:

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I'm leaning towards Himawari/The Shapeshifter. She's from the future apparently so could easily be referring to the Sensei she grew up with.

There's also how the "kick to the shin" part sounds like something she'd say:

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Not to mention, she's referring to her name as a "kick to the shin".

 

[Bingoogus]

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Alas... non-canon...

 

[Detective Dc345]

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Alas... non-canon...

At least it wasn't horse cock. Or dual horse cock. Or Siamese horse cock.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

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Alas... non-canon...

NO MORE GIRLS WITH COCKS OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM

 

[Bingoogus]

NO MORE GIRLS WITH COCKS OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM

But girls with cocks are so pretty and hot, don't you want to feel them unload thick sticky cum all over your tongue?

 

[Moonflare]

Yuki's just a big Yumi isn't she?

Spoiler: My heart is in Rotenburg

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Such a shame. I feel like they mesh really well, unexpected as that may be.

 

[Yarazin]

This bit is why I think there wont be a reset for awhile, if there are even any more at all. Maybe wild speculation but at some point they have to stop right? Plus I just don't see all the girls making it to the RAS. I do wonder if the other gods fighting back against Parry will keep them going though.

And back to "who the hell is this narrator" game:

Spoiler: irregular heartbeat

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I mean, this has to be Maya, right? It can't be Himawari. It can't be Sekai either. They had a home together, she laid on his chest, it was clearly a relationship where he had more power. I guess it could be Ami, but Ami would never have become forgettable.

Maya had a home with him, actually, it was her only home. Akira was her first and only love. She became a lifejacket to him after Sekai died. The implications about his are huge though. Cause if it is Maya, then Maya prime survived and is somehow observing the cycles as well.

Also, regarding their first meeting being on that vendingmachine she takes him too after carrying boxes:

Ever since we got Maya affection during the weird This Isnt Me event where it felt like Wires escaped or something, I have felt that Maya Prime is one of the narrators and may have been for a while. I cant articulate why I think these things like you all can but I believe its possible.

 

[Yarazin]

... Nao-Chan just might be an offspring made by Maya and Sekai ...

I think she was conceived when Akira had sex with Long Maya and Moyo drank the cum bucket. Wouldnt be surprised is Sekai was somehow involved in all that.

 

[Moonflare]

This bit is why I think there wont be a reset for awhile, if there are even any more at all. Maybe wild speculation but at some point they have to stop right? Plus I just don't see all the girls making it to the RAS. I do wonder if the other gods fighting back against Parry will get keep them going though.

I feel like the wishing well drying up could mean either one of two things: A: this cycle has gone on so long that their ability to correct it is failing (you can see many girls having issues/having actual insights on the time manipulation), or B: that not only this cycle, but the entire thing is on its last legs (Pareidolia says that he's been trying to get it to this point for far far longer than Maya Prime has been awake).

If it's the former, they would have to reset (a proper reset including Akira) - which, granted, they seemed to have tried to two times during summer. The first time being stopped (probably) by Sekai, and the second one (probably) by Pareidolia (since Yasu seemed certain that Akira was going to be factory reset). If it's the latter then we're going into the endgame for everyone involved, whatever that means I have no idea. But it's possible that we won't see another reset and maybe some kind of war will take place, from which (maybe) USER4 will finally come out of the shadows and bring back Fall.

Ever since we got Maya affection during the weird This Isnt Me event where it felt like Wires escaped or something, I have felt that Maya Prime is one of the narrators and may have been for a while. I cant articulate why I think these things like you all can but I believe its possible.

I agree. I feel like that during the first chapter a lot of the Happy Events seem to support this, in the sense that there is "a Maya" (AmIOkay) with him in the room with the clocks and more or less out of the current timeline (also during other Happy Events). The recurring flash of a Maya entity waiting for him at the end of a white corridor could also suggest this.

And more from a storytelling perspective, while Sekai currently brings the entire timeline together, she's a controversial, if not malevolent being. I feel like there's something to be gained from a more "positive" figure also tying everything together so that there's more than one choice by the end (which Maya prime would be if she remained as one of the narrators, still searching and trying to protect him after her reset), not to count the enormous payoff from her reveal as both still alive and present in the entire game (but hidden as a narrator).

Of course, what I just said about Maya could also be applied to Ami. Being Sekai's daughter she would serve a somewhat similar role as an alternate figure present throughout but of a different and more positive tone than her mother. I don't really buy the narrative of Himawari being the narrator that seems in love with Akira (while she is obviously a narrator at certain points). Unless Himawari is also either Ami or Maya, but that would be even more out of left field. I think it's more likely that one of the narrators simply is Ami or Maya - and between them Maya seems the more likely also.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Such a shame. I feel like they mesh really well, unexpected as that may be.

You know, I have a guess that every heart-to-heart dialogue with the milfs during this camp update was forced by Pareidolia. Because it seemed unnatural, and the way it happened was too fast...

 

[Moonflare]

Okay, Pareidolia is a piece of shit, but this is just gold.

Spoiler: Level One

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Pareidolia's teleporting services lol Also I love Molly. Poor girl just wants to get laid.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Yuki's just a big Yumi isn't she?

Spoiler: My heart is in Rotenburg

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Such a shame. I feel like they mesh really well, unexpected as that may be.

Yumi needs to take a page out of Touka's book and take what she wants or take what she thinks she doesn't want

 

[DeSkel15]

Some Random Sekai stuff for those interested, since I just felt compelled to do this:

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Just to add to this when it comes to the "It comes in threes" theory, the presumably Shapeshifter/Himawari Narrator implied there are 3 Notable Narrators:

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Besides simply the way this Narrator tends to communicate, it also suggests it's eyes are Blue:

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This is from the Chapter 3:

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Which in retrospect may refer to a unique female rabbit from 'Watership Down'?

 

[Xiondingens]

You know, I have a guess that every heart-to-heart dialogue with the milfs during this camp update was forced by Pareidolia. Because it seemed unnatural, and the way it happened was too fast...

I would replace Pareidolia with Sel himself. I mean the fact alone that by now we can already visit the doms again shows that he really wants to end this whole depression subplot and move on as normal.

 

[BlackDays]

So we had a bit of a talk about what was written next to Himawari on, i guess it was a wooden desk, in hexdec some while ago, the Infant Joy poem.
That event was for me the time that i decided that Himawari was the most likely name for her.
This is pretty much me repeating myself, because i posted this some months ago, but since we have "new" people here, why not.

The pretty much 100% for me was already -- q "Your little sunflower." -- Where q is a ren'py "sayer" shown as "???", which is most of the time the entity we/i name Himawari.
(Just did a quick and dirty search with np++ and this seems to be in the "Flowerchild" Event, while i don't know what kind of event that is (Main/Character/Happy)).
But "q" is also used for entities we dont know yet, so little chance i might be off.

Still..., we have HimawariCo. There to help or whatever, which seems to describe her character.

Back to the poem.
The poem is called Infant Joy by William Blake.
It has a second part that i think is not in the game.
Further, the poem is a contra to another poem by William Blake called "Infant Sadness".

So two things come to mind.
The poem is supposed to be interpreted together with its missing part and it's contra.
And i don't know what to make of that.
Or, the part "Joy is my name" is to be taken literally.

For that we would have to dive a bit into "Hanakotoba", which is the japanese flower language.
Sunflower/Himawari "CAN" be interpreted as Joy, while... that counts for a lot of flowers in western and japanese flower language. It's kind of what can be associated with flowers in general.
Normally Sunflowers in japanese are more linked to loyalty, longevity and respect.

But flowers seem to play at least some role in LIL.

We have Sekai (Cherry Blossom), Ayane (Daisy/Sunflower) and "Himawari" (Sunflower?).
The thing with Ayane is that i can't tell if her flower pattern dress is daisy or sunflower, because they can be hard to tell apart given that they can look alike, more so if it's orange Daisies.

I forgot what Daisies mean in "Hanakotaba", but i found it very interesting that sakura tree's/cherry blossom, can mean "Hope" in Hanakotaba.
Which, if flower language has some meaning in LiL, would relate Sekai to the entity we know as Hope.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

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Another example of a girl whose feelings are implanted.
"The entity commanding my every thought is named Siobhan. It is her fault I am the way I am, not mine."

It might come off as a joke but this is most likely the reason every girl eventually wants to plap Akira

Ayane is the one whose feelings weren't implanted, she's the one meant to be

 

[Moonflare]

"The entity commanding my every thought is named Siobhan. It is her fault I am the way I am, not mine."

Ayane is the one whose feelings weren't implanted, she's the one meant to be

Ayane does report hearing voices that command her to do things though, and that she ignores them and nothing ever comes from that (can't recall the event but it's probably late chapter 3).