Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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Moonflare

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Slub said:
What’s the hype of Last Sovereign about? I quit by the time I recruited the sister because the game is just too unforgiving and requires the players to follow a guide to the dot. Started over 3 times by then, once because I didn’t kill the early enemies which caused my characters to be too weak, second time to strip the early characters off their equipment since the enemies were still way too strong and money making opportunities too limited to waste it on something that turns out to be the ‘wrong’ thing, third time because I recruited the sister after defeating enemies in the cave and house. It’s mandatory to know about every single detail in advance and follow a predetermined order you won’t know about until you failed and ought to repeat the last 45 minutes.

I thought these pseudo sandbox games like LiL are stupid for expecting players to repeat scenes hundreds of times in pursuit of the new events, but that game really took the cake
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The hype, as you asked, is twofold imo: The gameworld and story heavily changes based on your decisions (which are by themselves very complex and far-reaching as months and years go by), and the story itself which is very interesting.

As for mechanics, I'm sure that many people enjoy it, but for me personally, as someone that sucks in most games of this genre, I simply cheat my characters/party to have maximum health, money and pron (investment money) - as I play for the story and consider rpgm mechanics themselves to be an obstacle to it. What you said about the guide is correct though, this either requires you to follow a guide and choose your path based on it or have some unexpected consequences even with cheating.

Kind of the same approach I have to LiL in that regard, since I try my utmost to ignore the game design by every means possible. Granted that LiL requires a lot less messing around - you just have to follow the guide mod and fish for the reset answers.

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It is perhaps Sierra's only real shortcoming as a dev imo, her games are strict, complicated and filled with traps to trip up cheating,
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If I remember correctly she has deployed two anti-cheating mechanisms, one in the form of a level you aren't supposed to get to (since there is no grinding in this game), and the other around a character that you wouldn't be able to beat/or able to beat in x turns... It turned out not being that convoluted, but one should look for it in the guide just in case. Also I personally find this anti-cheating silly in regard to single-player games, but what can you do...
 
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If I remember correctly she has deployed two anti-cheating mechanisms, one in the form of a level you aren't supposed to get to (since there is no grinding in this game), and the other around a character that you wouldn't be able to beat/or able to beat in x turns... It turned out not being that convoluted, but one should look for it in the guide just in case. Also I personally find this anti-cheating silly in regard to single-player games, but what can you do...
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Oh no, there's a bunch more, i remember having to account for more than two things when i last was playing it, i stopped playing after the goddess of magic was rescued and Simon was teleported somewhere so i expect there to be even more now. Pretty sure the wiki has a page listing all the cheating traps.

We should probably stop talking about this here now though, pretty off-topic.
 
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Yarazin said:
Crazy theory, what if by popping her in S3, with all her memories and such they created something with godlike powers [...] Her powers would include doing paradox stuff.
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That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die. Is dying even possible inside the resets? It would be great if we had Akira remembering something from previous cycles, cause so far Maya falls into that gray area between nothing dying in the resets, and the ever old question about memories from between cycles being stored or not.

If they are stored, it's not even Maya that could be brought back, but everyone and everything. Which is alarming because, as Maya put it, it's unlikely that their bodies could even handle centuries of memories being injected back. Also, if they are stored, where else would they be stored other than the Wishing Well? In fact, from where did Nao-chan/TEMPLATE9 get restored? Cause it was a backup from USER4, but where would a backup even be stored if not in the Wishing Well, as well?

A lot of questions. Although it would be funny if when USER4 finally comes along it's not Sekai, but that "fucking ponytail watermelon whore" that Sekai likes so much lol. All the while sharing a keyboard with Himawari, and using Nao-chan to exorcise the parasites. Then when she comes back, she totally ignores Sekai too, because a moon isn't even a star.
 
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Moonflare said:
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die. Is dying even possible inside the resets? It would be great if we had Akira remembering something from previous cycles, cause so far Maya falls into that gray area between nothing dying in the resets, and the ever old question about memories from between cycles being stored or not.

If they are stored, it's not even Maya that could be brought back, but everyone and everything. Which is alarming because, as Maya put it, it's unlikely that their bodies could even handle centuries of memories being injected back. Also, if they are stored, where else would they be stored other than the Wishing Well? In fact, from where did Nao-chan/TEMPLATE9 get restored? Cause it was a backup from USER4, but where would a backup even be stored if not in the Wishing Well, as well?

A lot of questions. Although it would be funny if when USER4 finally comes along it's not Sekai, but that "fucking ponytail watermelon whore" that Sekai likes so much lol. All the while sharing a keyboard with Himawari, and using Nao-chan to exorcise the parasites. Then when she comes back, she totally ignores Sekai too, because a moon isn't even a star.
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I considered about adding to it that she might be User4 but thought that might be to much. :LOL:
Wish I could add both a thinking and haha to your reply. :unsure: :ROFLMAO: I love this story but it also confuses the hell outa me. I sure hope in the end most things are clear.

Also thanks DeSkel15 for pointing out Sekai in the preview, seems I don't see shit until its pointed out or my 3rd/10th playthrough. I sometime think they are all the same Sekai who are both crazy and sane depending on the day.
 
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Did I mess my game up or is this just a weird part of the game? I got to chapter 3 and after doing a Yasu event with her rabbit tea party there's just nothing left in the Hints and it's been like 2 ingame weeks since then

Nvm, like 2 minutes after I wrote this I hit day 500 and an event kicked off
 
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DyonisXX said:
Did I mess my game up or is this just a weird part of the game? I got to chapter 3 and after doing a Yasu event with her rabbit tea party there's just nothing left in the Hints and it's been like 2 ingame weeks since then
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Coincidentally enough, I’m in the exact same part you are in my second playthrough lol. You need to reach Day 500 and a Yasu event will automatically trigger and continue the story. Just keep skipping days.
 
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Fire Lord Zuko said:
Coincidentally enough, I’m in the exact same part you are in my second playthrough lol. You need to reach Day 500 and a Yasu event will automatically trigger and continue the story. Just keep skipping days.
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Yeah lmao, I just edited my comment but I hit day 500 like 2 minutes after I wrote it..
 
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Lets guess on the new animations. New Noriko invite would be cool but I just don't think well get lucky. So my guess is just adding new ones to other invites or dorm visits. Animations are only for invite/visit events right?

Edit: I think one will be a Molly BJ dorm option
 
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DyonisXX said:
I already have 360 pages worth of saves I wonder if I have a problem

Oh I checked and I actually have 376 full pages of saves
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How do you lot use so much? I use one page and then just overwrite the oldest one.

Of course I haven't properly gone into this game yet but every other VN works like that for me.
 
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