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:cry: I mean we're all reading the same sad story so, i wonder what that might tell about us.
That said, i always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Or to put it in other words, i "try" to not judge people by just a couple of posts, or by just a couple of misfired posts, if you know what i mean. Everyone can have a bad day or two.

He'd be the first on my ingo (igno) here, and i'm a bit undecided.
Some people here seem to read the intirety of his posts, and i wonder why.
That's very generous of you. I've been trying to raise the quality of my posts precisely to win over kind folks such as yourself and rebuild my shattered reputation in my home-away-from-home here. It doesn't seem to be working so well though... the Ignore wall is a harsh one, and those who choose to shelter themselves so are certainly beyond the reach of frail hands such as these. But putting them aside I am at a loss. Although aiming for smaller, snippy posts would certainly have a greater response in the divine social media algorithm, those are the kind of posts I could make on another account. When it comes to this being I need to speak with its particular purpose and thus speak at length. A lot of words means I have a lot to say on the matter, but it seems length is consistently rejected... I don't understand accusations of pretention because I don't know what that means. To attempt to affect greater importance than I have is beyond me when I am uncertain of any importance of my own. What am I to do? I am sad and lost, but cannot bring myself to silence the voice dictating what to write. In the end, I may end up having to scream into the void, for ten-odd years, waiting for someone who will listen without hiding awkwardly within the crowd. I've spent enough time talking to plants already, but I can do more. Perhaps a tl;dr will help after all though I don't like them too much myself since numerical scores and summaries tend to draw engagement from those who skip the rest to read the conclusion despite the elaboration being more important than the conclusion, like showing your work on a math problem...

tl;dr: Let no bell toll!--lest her sweet soul, amid its hallowed mirth, / Should catch the note, as it doth float up from the damnéd Earth. / To friends above, from fiends below, the indignant ghost is riven-- / From Hell unto a high estate far up within the Heaven-- / From grief and groan, to a golden throne, beside the King of Heaven.
 
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Moonflare

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It's nice to have an extra thing to point to, but Akira knowing he hates his urges is par for the course. Between Stomachache and the choice in failsafe being wizard related, and not advancing on Yumi despite her being ready for an abusive relationship if he wanted to grasp it, we know he's aware of how bad some of his choices are, but he still makes them anyway.
I have said this before but Akira can't do anything before he figures out his deal with Sekai. I had a girlfriend explain this to me once, that some people are so lost in their own hell that all they can do is bring others into hell as well (often not even aware that they're doing it).

Regardless if that is true or not, Akira is still trapped in his relationship with Sekai. He doesn't want to have children, he doesn't want to get married, he doesn't want to have a life, he doesn't want to live because there's no real Akira here - Akira is still in that moment of seeing the car tumbling around. He never left.

So that's the big issue. He can still act on instinct (lust), and recognize that some things are wrong (often things that were done to him aka things against one's will). But that's the measure of it, as a shadow there's not much that he can do, especially changing.

In fact, I think the Akira that ended up marrying Sekai didn't solve his issues either. But that's a hunch, there's not enough to go around. It's just a feeling I have.

Now, what's interesting to me, that's also been talked about before is that he mainly deals with these issues on the green path. "Stomachache" and the one event with him showering Chinami (in which she straight up addresses his pedophilia so well that many think that was Himawari). Will that eventually make a difference as to Akira's end between green and red path? It remains to be seen.
 

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Himawari appearing as a naked child in a bath being the better option is so weird.
Weird... funny, but definitely weird... and i kinda don't like it for her, it undermines her characterization, Chinami is pretty damn smart, very observant and good at poking at things until they reveal themselves... that scene was very her, we know she only speaks in 3rd person for Chika's benefit, she just wants to understand the problem that caused the fight so she can help her sister, figuring out Akira is a pedo was a side product of that. If it was just Himawari... wtf was the point of any of that?
 

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This thread is fun to read and catch up on, also damn that is a lot of previews and making me reconsider waiting for a few updates and just playing as they come out. I am torn, was thinking for waiting till maybe March or May and pick up the game again but each preview and discussions around them are tempting me lol.
 

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Weird... funny, but definitely weird... and i kinda don't like it for her, it undermines her characterization, Chinami is pretty damn smart, very observant and good at poking at things until they reveal themselves... that scene was very her, we know she only speaks in 3rd person for Chika's benefit, she just wants to understand the problem that caused the fight so she can help her sister, figuring out Akira is a pedo was a side product of that. If it was just Himawari... wtf was the point of any of that?
I agree. It definitely wasn’t Himawari. People are too quick to jump to that conclusion sometimes.

Look at the events “Holden Caulfield”
(Chinami event) and “Rivals (Taco Tuesday)” (Noriko event). Particularly at the flashbacks with Wizard Maya and Noriko.

They way they speak in those flashbacks do not fit their age. Like… at all. :LOL: It’s almost like their mannerisms didn’t change from past to present.

With that in mind, it isn’t too far fetched to conclude that Chinami is the same way.

She’s been holed up in her home for years, watched mature shows on TV like Game of Thrones, and got recent access to the internet when she got her new phone. No duh she’s gonna learn about some non-Wizard friendly topics.

And just to parrot it a second time: Chinami is stuck at home. What else can she do for entertainment when she’s by herself?

With all that free time comes boredom. With boredom comes curiosity. With curiosity comes interest. With interest comes learning. And with learning comes knowledge.

As Bingoogus said, Chinami is a smart and perceptive girl; something that has been alluded to for multiple chapters now. This isn’t new.

Tl;dr - Not Himawari. Is actually Chinami.
 

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Chinami is pretty damn smart [...] If it was just Himawari... wtf was the point of any of that?
counterpoint:
Are you telling me, hang on, get your glasses ready to read this folks, are you telling me that in this fanfiction Himawari is shapeshifting as Chinami for a whole scene just so that her dad can wash her hair???? :ROFLMAO:

hell if that wouldn't be one of the most adorable scenes in LiL if true. I want this now.
I second what past Moonflare said there. Wholesome as fuck. Let Himawari have her dad waaaaash her hair!
 
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Brah, you're a little too obsessed with not-named-Ami. You might be right but i feel like on this single topic you probably shouldn't use yourself as a source, you're totally biased... :ROFLMAO:
Oh, so get ready to have your turns tabled then, because that was actually a reply to one other person. The original fanfiction composer was none other than our own resident old old man:
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How's that for a plot twist?
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(I believe it was Chinami actually lol)
 

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Day 3 of playing this game. Character count in spoiler: 7020. Tomorrow is gonna be another happy event... fml.
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Gonna do something a little different from now on. I will now be posting my updated tierlist. It includes the basics likes if I've seen them, if I've spoken to them, what I liked, noticed or dislike about them and the further up the list they are, the more I like them as a character and looks combined. If I find myself wanting to see more of them for whatever reason they will be higher up, simple right?
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I am enjoying your running commentary! I believe I am mostly following which comment goes to each event but not all. I also do this after each update, just write down quick thoughts.

Ayane is a keeper! She's been right behind Maya and Niki as my favorite for a long while now. I have a feeling I may like her purity route the most in the end.

I agree, tier lists are difficult. I cant do one, most of the girls change spots to fast after we get past my top 3.

Anyways, keep em coming!
 

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I have said this before but Akira can't do anything before he figures out his deal with Sekai. I had a girlfriend explain this to me once, that some people are so lost in their own hell that all they can do is bring others into hell as well (often not even aware that they're doing it).

Regardless if that is true or not, Akira is still trapped in his relationship with Sekai. He doesn't want to have children, he doesn't want to get married, he doesn't want to have a life, he doesn't want to live because there's no real Akira here - Akira is still in that moment of seeing the car tumbling around. He never left.

So that's the big issue. He can still act on instinct (lust), and recognize that some things are wrong (often things that were done to him aka things against one's will). But that's the measure of it, as a shadow there's not much that he can do, especially changing.

In fact, I think the Akira that ended up marrying Sekai didn't solve his issues either. But that's a hunch, there's not enough to go around. It's just a feeling I have.

Now, what's interesting to me, that's also been talked about before is that he mainly deals with these issues on the green path. "Stomachache" and the one event with him showering Chinami (in which she straight up addresses his pedophilia so well that many think that was Himawari). Will that eventually make a difference as to Akira's end between green and red path? It remains to be seen.
It hasn't been touched upon much yet, but Sensei's/Akira's issues probably even predate Sekai.

Apparently, Sensei's mother didn't like him:
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And he seems to block her out even more than Sekai. Considering the Sky background, Religious, and Upside Down connections, his Mother might be far more important than has been revealed.

Putting a few implications together, I wouldn't be too surprised if she violated him due to him reminding her of his father, who may have left her for/cheated on her with Sekai's mother, Miu.

Not to mention; Ami talks about grandma at times like she's notable (and somewhat acts like her). Albeit, recent revelations could suggest she's referring to Miu instead of Saki, but I doubt it due to the religious connection. Miu's most defining trait was probably being scared of everything to the point that she's thrown up at school.

Saki was peculiar even back in the previous game, 'Nothing is Beautiful':
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With the hands being cut off thing that gets mentioned at times, seemingly starting from her:
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Plus the Whales, Religious stuff, and Plants, etc, references, also seem to come from her.

Overall: Sensei's issues probably predate Sekai, with her just being more prominent now that he's finally acknowledging her.

Of course, there's also the potential mental illness that seems inherited from Sensei's/Akira's father, on top of this, but Saki may have been his first abuser. Then there's his problems with Nozomu, and Sekai. Then there's the Maya stuff, and whatever else.
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okay this just hit HARD out of nowhere (Kaori/Sekai wishes she could have said goodbye to Ami before dying):
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Tell me if that that can't be interpreted as Sekai saying goodbye to Ami, seconds after Akira remembered the car accident and her dead in his arms? This isn't even relevant to the event, just hit out of nowhere.
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Sure, Kaori. Sure you did. I'm not crying.
 

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Lots of foreshadowings:

Well I have some good news for you then, Molly
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Well, maybe you're remembering what already happened?
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Also, the obligatory screenshot of everytime I get through this event:
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Edit: More foreshadowing, this time we have a jumper
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As far as Halloween costumes go I think I like Tsuneyo's "The Mortal Wombat's" one the best. There's Probably a lot of recency bias in that, I cant remember more than half of them so I might be forgetting something better. Maya Mona was pretty good as well.
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