Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[shmurfer]

Hey, what happens if we combine basically NTR with rape and torture?

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If this is triggering your NTR alarms, there's at least 4 more scenes coming up that will do so too. There's been a ton of NTR debate in recent updates and people will even start groaning because I've used those words in this post it was that in depth and exhausting.
The big thing it comes down to is none of them is an unexcusable NTR moment, which I'd define as one of the girls finding another guy to fuck, not be raped by. We'd ask for the tag the moment a scene like that appears, and we're specifically avoiding it due to the audience merely having that tag attracts who would honestly be pissed off at the game having that tag in its current state, currently at all. And if the game reaches the point where the tag is valid, the amount of non cuckery they'd have to do to reach that point would piss them off. We can only hope Selebus understands this, because it would also threaten his bottom line, and that's what he cares about.
Everything else comes down to debate.

Spoiler: NTR Debates

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After all that delightful chatting, back to business

Spoiler: minor void post, the ntr debate is much longer

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[TheSeedy1]

All I know is I'm about to throw hands if we keep getting slow rolled for some Uta and Touka action at this point. I think I'm coming to terms that Noriko is probably gonna be the last one to get Akira action - even after Otoha or Yumi.

 

[shmurfer]

All I know is I'm about to throw hands if we keep getting slow rolled for some Uta and Touka action at this point. I think I'm coming to terms that Noriko is probably gonna be the last one to get Akira action - even after Otoha or Yumi.

Uta is likely to get some next update, we're at the point of comparing toes at the bathhouse and we're pretty sure we've identified Uta's.

There might be a Yumi kiss next update depending on how she's feeling after the reset. She might realise at this point life is too short to wait. Or some intimate moment that isn't porn.

Touka might happen next Touka update. She doesn't really have hangups about getting what she wants and she doesn't make scenes when she can avoid it. It would probably happen away from the manor, at least the first time. (Love hotel bed coming full circle? Or maybe that's where the second sex scene happens)

And I've called my shot on Noriko. She just needs a little push, but she won't make that move herself. Once Niki gets the fact that Akira is sleeping around in the open, I imagine she's gonna ask if Noriko's gotten any yet, and when she finds out she hasn't, she's gonna make it happen at the next big event (Which could be the dorm wars)

 

[Moonflare]

Once Niki gets the fact that Akira is sleeping around in the open, I imagine she's gonna ask if Noriko's gotten any yet, and when she finds out she hasn't, she's gonna make it happen at the next big event (Which could be the dorm wars)

It would the most pathetic, ironic and funny thing ever for Niki to be like "Seriously? More than half the women in his life are getting some, and you, the one other Nakayama isn't? That's it, you had your chance, loser. I'm getting my husband to fuck you right now."

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[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

It would the most pathetic, ironic and funny thing ever for Niki to be like "Seriously? More than half the women in his life are getting some, and you, the one other Nakayama isn't? That's it, you had your chance, loser. I'm getting my husband to fuck you right now."

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Spoiler: Pareidolia's reaction, if he will be there

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[DeSkel15]

It is going to be interesting if Noriko turns out to be the True End "winner" after everything, and I do have to wonder if Kanon having Noriko's hairstyle means anything:

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Might just be rooting for Noriko a little (even if I think she's better off without him):

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[LessonsInDissonance]

 

[Moonflare]

It's time for the fanart post again, bringing you some of the newest ones:

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As always, I can't bring everything here, so I encourage you to visit the

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and see what I missed.

Also, someone asked about wallpapers a while ago, and I forgot to comment that there are some wallpapers that I use from wallpaper engine. So if you also have that app, I recommend taking a look at their library:

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[LessonsInDissonance]

It's time for the fanart post again, bringing you some of the newest ones:

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As always, I can't bring everything here, so I encourage you to visit the

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and see what I missed.

Also, someone asked about wallpapers a while ago, and I forgot to comment that there are some wallpapers that I use from wallpaper engine. So if you also have that app, I recommend taking a look at their library:

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Hey what a coincidence, I use one of those wallpapers

 

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[vehemental]

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All of these are good but this just made my jaw drop. If anyone else wants to follow:

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[GSwole]

All of these are good but this just made my jaw drop. If anyone else wants to follow:

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Most of their work past 2023 is AI so be wary.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

Most of their work past 2023 is AI so be wary.

Don't care. Will use AI everywhere to shit on people who dislike AI

 

[Riolol]

Don't care. Will use AI everywhere to shit on people who dislike AI

Those who fear AI fear the future.

 

[VoidExile]

I want to make this clear right now. If you see or READ about a character being raped by another man, PLEASE let me know who it happened to and when, FUCK spoilers, I don't care, I need to prepare myself for that shit. Think you should also clarify if the male cums inside, because that's as bad as it can get on an ntr scale for me.
Another thing to note, although not that important is that the amount I care depends on whether the character/victim is a nice and kind person or not.

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What do you even mean by "that comes later"? You can't just throw that out there and then not elaborate. Is it in the game yet? How bad is it? What's the event name and whose is it?

If this is triggering your NTR alarms, there's at least 4 more scenes coming up that will do so too. There's been a ton of NTR debate in recent updates and people will even start groaning because I've used those words in this post it was that in depth and exhausting.
The big thing it comes down to is none of them is an unexcusable NTR moment, which I'd define as one of the girls finding another guy to fuck, not be raped by. We'd ask for the tag the moment a scene like that appears, and we're specifically avoiding it due to the audience merely having that tag attracts who would honestly be pissed off at the game having that tag in its current state, currently at all. And if the game reaches the point where the tag is valid, the amount of non cuckery they'd have to do to reach that point would piss them off. We can only hope Selebus understands this, because it would also threaten his bottom line, and that's what he cares about.
Everything else comes down to debate.

Spoiler: NTR Debates

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After all that delightful chatting, back to business

Spoiler: minor void post, the ntr debate is much longer

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And of course people are laughing in the reactions...

 

[Budoop]

Yeah its a really nasty scene, I don't feel its horrific excess makes it any more compelling either.
You could take away the rape and it would be just as telling to her chr.

In fact she seems almost completely unbothered by the sexual aussalt part, and only focusses on the burns.

 

[shmurfer]

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I wasn't trying to go too hard on you. It was about as complete of a summary of the NTR debates as I could remember, and lampooning the arguments while doing so as to why there hasn't been consensus on "Does the game contain NTR" I'd say no, but I'd say Sel is intentionally flirting with the line for drama's sake.

The second vague example I provided(girl in chair) I would call actual rape (and I'm here saying Stomachache wasn't rape for comparison, statutory aside I guess), but story wise it doesn't end up with the kind of feelings you'd expect of a real rape between a perp and a victim. And it has lore implications once you start overthinking it. The others have enough shenanigans around it that I wouldn't hold it against them.
And if your real problem is someone in 'power' raping someone who's too meek to do anything about it, 3 will rub you the wrong way even if a lawyer would argue extenuating circumstances.

Other than that, there is no competing presence in the time loops that's having sex with anyone at the human level, so I can't say there's anything I'd call actual NTR in the game.
If you consider Nozomu, the horny ball of light to also be HOPE, the god that's been in charge of Summer so far then there's some level of male having sex with girls you'd have sex with. But it's hard to treat the actions of a world admitted horny god in the world's backrooms like a sexual rival.
On that point HOPE has had Akira in a sex machine..... And there's an up and coming theory that Nozomu the husband of Sekai might have also diddled shota sensei. But I don't think that theory is robust enough just yet.

 

[Budoop]

The second vague example I provided(girl in chair) I would call actual rape (and I'm here saying Stomachache wasn't rape for comparison, statutory aside I guess), but story wise it doesn't end up with the kind of feelings you'd expect of a real rape between a perp and a victim. And it has lore implications once you start overthinking it. The others have enough shenanigans around it that I wouldn't hold it against them.
And if your real problem is someone in 'power' raping someone who's too meek to do anything about it, 3 will rub you the wrong way even if a lawyer would argue extenuating circumstances.

Yeah I dont think you can call rape an act of cheating either.
She obviously didn't want that.

 

[LoveWhiteHairedGirl]

From what update the NTR topic become so valid? I am tired of scrolling through these messages just to skip them.

 

[Bingoogus]

From what update the NTR topic become so valid? I am tired of scrolling through these messages just to skip them.

The topic is inescapable, even in a game where no player should be projecting onto the MC, one where he is very much a character not the self insert for the player... you still have the horridly insecure screaming the end of days at the mere notion of someone having sex when they themselves did not click a button saying 'i give these characters permission to have sex'.

You will never escape it, as sexual insecurity is as common as bread.