Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[ciderapple]

I work in the payments industry and can provide some insight. Credit card processor HATE processing payments for porn because tons of people claim them as fraudulent. Eg: A guy spends $100 on OnlyFans and his wife sees the credit card statement and asks what it is, and he is just like "uh..... um.... my credit card must have been stolen!!"

Or alternatively somebody spends $1000 on some OnlyFans model, gets a nude picture or something, then regrets it and disputes it with the payment processor and claims it was fraudulent. Fraud claims cost everybody in the whole payment chain a lot of money.

There are alternative payment processors that will take these sorts of payments, but they charge a LOT more. A typical payment processor charges around 3%. These can charge 15-20% because they lose so much money from fraud. When your ENTIRE revenue is porn (OnlyFans), this is necessary. When you have other non-porn income (Patreon) you have to decide if that sort of fee increase is worth it. These services also do not offer their services to small companies or individuals so a single developer could not choose this option anyway.

Patreon (the company) really does not care if you game has porn or whatever. They will leave it up until the banks complain. And there is no avoiding the banks. Even if the developer quit Patreon and set up their own website. They would need to use a service to process payments. Their options are basically Stripe, Paypal, Braintree, or maayyybbe Square. Guess what? All 4 of those companies are backed by the same banks with the same rules. (Patreon themselves use Paypal and Stripe.)

Thanks for the clarification! Linus Tech Tips had a part in their weekly show once about this topic and they did mention the fee problem, but evidently OnlyFans was able to find a processor that didn't charge much more at all, it was something like 2-4% more than they were paying before, so it wasn't really that bad and ended up working out well for OnlyFans. - they got to keep their porn (which is pretty much all of their content) and the upcharge for switching payment processors was much smaller than anyone expected.

I can't remember the name of the payment processor OnlyFans switched to, but i'm sure it could be found pretty easily with a bit of google-fu.

This is another reason why piracy is a good thing for the industry, because people get to SEE what they would be paying for, before they pay for it. So when a pirate does choose to pay, they know exactly what they are paying for and are less likely to do a charge-back. Sure you don't get to sucker people in as much, but it also means the people who do pay, are much more likely to not give you grief over what they paid for - the pirate that pays likes what they are paying for and is doing it to support the stuff they like, or they wouldn't pay for it.

 

[Neurasiatic]

heh. not sure. honestly I think putting in the patch notes that sex would be removed from the game was a bad move - it should have been made clear - straight off at the top - that the sex was here to stay, and that this is a concession for the people running patreon being unconscionable pricks. Honestly if I were the dev, I wouldn't even post that 'non-sex' version here at all.

Instead we have confusing patch notes and people are making their displeasure known.

The dev doesn't post the SFW version here, and doesn't update the main post. It's the mods doing that.
The patch notes are written as they are because these were the Patreon patch notes, and thus needed to be worded as such in order to comply with Patreon's stance regarding this game.

It's the mods who copy/pasted this Patreon-only message to the main post without context, causing this whole confusion.

 

[thefetussundae]

This is another reason why piracy is a good thing for the industry, because people get to SEE what they would be paying for, before they pay for it. So when a pirate does choose to pay, they know exactly what they are paying for and are less likely to do a charge-back.

There's a public version for free though. Most games that get funded through sites like Patreon have a freely available public version that's a version behind the paid one. Most of the games on this site are games you can try out without pirating.

Pirating isn't good or healthy for adult game development. These games are developed by small teams that are living off other jobs in a lot of cases, the $30 bucks that a pirated game costs them makes a noticeable different in their bank accounts, it discourages them from trying to make a living off of it which decreases the amount and quality of games on the market.

If you pirate games then whatever, it's a pirate site first. Just stop pretending it's somehow benefiting anyone other than yourself.

 

[Dragon59]

Why is the protagonist so dead inside?

Perhaps because he got here through a suicide attempt.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

There's a public version for free though. Most games that get funded through sites like Patreon have a freely available public version that's a version behind the paid one. Most of the games on this site are games you can try out without pirating.

Pirating isn't good or healthy for adult game development. These games are developed by small teams that are living off other jobs in a lot of cases, the $30 bucks that a pirated game costs them makes a noticeable different in their bank accounts, it discourages them from trying to make a living off of it which decreases the amount and quality of games on the market.

If you pirate games then whatever, it's a pirate site first. Just stop pretending it's somehow benefiting anyone other than yourself.

True!

I love benefiting myself!

 

[akselx]

Oh, wow, look at this. I've been away for some time and came back just to see the obligatory bi-monthly discussion about piracy with the same tired arguments from both sides.
So, what is it, f95? Do we finally have definitive expert conclusion to whatever piracy is good or bad?

 

[crustlord12]

Oh, wow, look at this. I've been away for some time and came back just to see the obligatory bi-monthly discussion about piracy with the same tired arguments from both sides.
So, what is it, f95? Do we finally have definitive expert conclusion to whatever piracy is good or bad?

Hey, at least we've moved away from the room temperature IQ people who read "NSFW removed" and are saying they're not supporting this game anymore (even though they likely weren't to begin with, considering they should know what's going on with that)

 

[akselx]

Hey, at least we've moved away from the room temperature IQ people who read "NSFW removed" and are saying they're not supporting this game anymore (even though they likely weren't to begin with, considering they should know what's going on with that)

Give it time, they'll reemerge.

 

[SweetHug]

Spanish Patch V0.21.0-Part-1 &
Spanish Patch V0.21.5-part-1 Family Friendly (No Sex)

Excuse me, I wanted to ask how I do to divide the dialogue according to the version as you can see in the patch in Spanish, I ask why I want to translate the game but the dialogue is divided according to the girls, etc.

 

[mannice431]

When's the next part coming exactly?

 

[crustlord12]

When's the next part coming exactly?

on the 15th for supporters, and on the 1st of next month for public, I believe.

 

[niconob92]

Man, it's so sad adult content had to be removed from the official version. Many will probably stop donating on patreon even though there is an uncensor patch

 

[Smackotron]

hey everyone, I've just reached the dorm wars chain and was wondering if there are any bad consequences to the choices made during competitions - the wiki does not seem to point out any positive or negative effects apart from +1 score based on choices. could someone explain what happens in both cases? can there be a draw?

 

[EllisL4D2]

hey everyone, I've just reached the dorm wars chain and was wondering if there are any bad consequences to the choices made during competitions - the wiki does not seem to point out any positive or negative effects apart from +1 score based on choices. could someone explain what happens in both cases? can there be a draw?

Nope, there is no consequences.

There cannot be a draw from what I know.

 

[Smackotron]

thanks mate, I won't feel guilty for being biased now

 

[Cerpin]

I managed a draw the first time by accident and was never able to reproduce it. There is some meta commentary about missing info and this forum if you manage it.

 

[Cerpin]

Thinking about it, I missed the Ayane sex scene first time, which is how it was possible to draw. It made the commentary about completionism all the more painful because no completionist will ever see it

 

[Lolicon Kami]

I managed a draw the first time by accident and was never able to reproduce it. There is some meta commentary about missing info and this forum if you manage it.

Nope, there is no consequences.

There cannot be a draw from what I know.

You can only get a draw if you're not a completionist, missed some events a while ago, and thus missed out on some lust scenes. Check out the wiki for more info

Example: If you refused to fuck kirin, you won't get kirin-ayane scene. That alone is enough to give you a draw if you choose the winners and losers correctly. Of course, that results in you not being able to fuck kirin (possibly forever)

 

[punisher2099]

You can only get a draw if you're not a completionist, missed some events a while ago, and thus missed out on some lust scenes. Check out the wiki for more info

Example: If you refused to fuck kirin, you won't get kirin-ayane scene. That alone is enough to give you a draw if you choose the winners and losers correctly. Of course, that results in you not being able to fuck kirin (possibly forever)

You know there's one thing about Kirin that I don't get she talks a big game about not caring and being a sick twisted bitch but then you choose her to "kill" in the marry, fuck, kill game and she gets all mopey about it? if she is the way she says she is wouldn't she just shrug it off and talk about all the things Sensei would do to Chika?

 

[Lolicon Kami]

You know there's one thing about Kirin that I don't get she talks a big game about not caring and being a sick twisted bitch but then you choose her to "kill" in the marry, fuck, kill game and she gets all mopey about it? if she is the way she says she is wouldn't she just shrug it off and talk about all the things Sensei would do to Chika?

True. She acts bratty but is fragile underneath