Gunizz

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So, you are asking why the dev chose to make female models that are not attractive to your tastes? Because all people of Indian or Roma descendancy are to you very unattractive?
No, you wrongly interpreted what I have written. I simply said I don't find their features attractive, as a feedback. Yes, IF an Indian girl looked like that, I would find them unattractive. If you think all Indians girls look like that, maybe you have a strong racist bias towards Indians and you should look for them on Google. If you think all Indians look the same, that is really racist, but I do not condemn you for that, it would be hypocrite in this perv forum ;-). So I gently ask you not to purposely misinterpret my comment.

Then I simply asked if there was a purpose with the choice of those out of ordinary characters, like the story would have some links with India or the gipsy culture. I supposed there was a meaning in that choice, not being the result of a random selection.
 

Gunizz

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It's a bit like complain about people make porn (or any adult entertainment), that is not of your taste or fetish. Don't really see why the creator (of anything) have to justify their choice in design and direction. If people doesn't like something then find something else to focus on. There is plenty of stuff out there for everyone's desire and fetishes.

Also there is a very high chance there is way more people out there that find @Gunizz undesired and not attractive, than those that do. The world is a big place after all, and we all different. All this is like throwing stone in a glass house.
Did I complain? No. Did I condemn a particular fetish? No. I just gave my feedback about an aspect of the game, that's what this forum is also for. So the developer could take it into consideration, or simply ignore it. I did not offend anyone except people who cannot read simple sentences because they need to get offended to say something superficially politically correct.
I did not even complain about the racist concept, stated by the other inquisitor above, that "all Indians look the same", because complaining about any perversion in a forum where most games have rape or/and incest scenes would be nonsense.

Also, I did not state to be more attractive than anyone else, including the two fictional characters of this game, so you are ranting about clouds, really. Next time please read carefully before starting your harangue, thanks.
 

Joshua Tree

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No, you wrongly interpreted what I have written. I simply said I don't find their features attractive, as a feedback. Yes, IF an Indian girl looked like that, I would find them unattractive. If you think all Indians girls look like that, maybe you have a strong racist bias towards Indians and you should look for them on Google. If you think all Indians look the same, that is really racist, but I do not condemn you for that, it would be hypocrite in this perv forum ;-). So I gently ask you not to purposely misinterpret my comment.

Then I simply asked if there was a purpose with the choice of those out of ordinary characters, like the story would have some links with India or the gipsy culture. I supposed there was a meaning in that choice, not being the result of a random selection.
Your post kinda came across as you had a dislike for people of Indian/Gypsy heritage though. It doesn't really matter what heritage or race the characters does have. If they had been like blacks, asians, whatever, there would been people shouting out their dislike just the same. At least these characters have a bit more genuine feel about them. Life isn't picture perfect you know.
 

Gunizz

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I believe they are supposed to be Latina. Hence the "Chunky Chica's" ice cream.
LOL, that should be considered racist. They cannot be, simply. Some features are simply not present in people of Spanish ancestry or native Americans. You do not need to be an expert in craniometry to understand that. But that's not a surprise for me. Being in daily contact with tourists, I know most or many US/UK and some north EU white people are not able to distinguish between Spanish, native Mexicans, north African, Italians, Indians, Albanians. We all look the same for them.
 

k8pohni

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No, I did not purposefully misinterpret you. I interpreted what you wrote in a logical way based on how you wrote it:
"The female models are really not my taste, very unattractive in my opinion, they look Indians or gipsies (gipsies have originally moved from India)."
You wrote this in one sentence, and it is pretty logical to assume that the last clause of the sentence is to be interpreted as connected to the first two clauses. In other words, your claim that the female models look like Indian or Roma seems in this sentence to be connected to the two former clauses where you state that the models are not in your taste and unattractive in your opinion.
Therefore, it is not my interpretation that is wrong. Rather, given the explanation given by you, it is the way you write that was faulty. However, since in your response you show a somewhat higher capability in constructing sentences, I can only assume that your previous entry was a temporary lapse.

You then move on trying to attribute to me what you think was attributed to you:
"If you think all Indians girls look like that, maybe you have a strong racist bias towards Indians and you should look for them on Google. If you think all Indians look the same, that is really racist"
Of course, nowhere in my post am I making any claim of any sort about the looks of Indian girls. I guess one could spend time trying to pinpoint where in the taxonomies of argumentative fallacies or psychological defense mechanisms your reasoning would be most at home, but I'll refrain, since I feel comfortable most reasonable readers will be able recognize the obvious for themselves.

At least you finally managed to make clear that your feelings about these individual CGI models was not meant to be interpreted as about Indian or Roma girls.
 
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Gunizz

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Your post kinda came across as you had a dislike for people of Indian/Gypsy heritage though. It doesn't really matter what heritage or race the characters does have. If they had been like blacks, asians, whatever, there would been people shouting out their dislike just the same. At least these characters have a bit more genuine feel about them. Life isn't picture perfect you know.
You wrongly presumed. So if I say that I do not like a girl and that she looks Korean, are you implying that I do not find attractive any Korean? That's really misunderstanding the basic of the language and the reasoning.
It's funny because then you are implying that the only perfect ones are the white characters, that nobody could complain against, and all the others "races" (!!) are not, and I must accept that. That sounds a bit Third Reich to me, LOL.
 

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I can ask people if it's possible to not be too much Ot ? this is a Thread about Light of my life ; if people needs to speak about different races or personal taste or worse about Racism , it's possible for him to create a new thread in Off Topic discussion and write there ; I'm already fad up about this thinks in real world , i don't need here please
 

Gunizz

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No, I did not purposefully misinterpret you. I interpreted what you wrote in a logical way based on how you wrote it:
"The female models are really not my taste, very unattractive in my opinion, they look Indians or gipsies (gipsies have originally moved from India)."
You wrote this in one sentence, and it is pretty logical to assume that the last clause of the sentence is to be interpreted as connected to the first two clauses.
I never said it wasn't.
In other words, your claim that the female models look like Indian or Roma seems in this sentence to be connected to the two former clauses where you state that the models are not in your taste and unattractive in your opinion.
Yeah, you got it right till this.
Therefore, it is not my interpretation that is wrong. Rather, given the explanation given by you, it is the way you write that was faulty. However, since in your response you show a somewhat higher capability in constructing sentences, I can only assume that your previous entry was a temporary lapse.
OK blame me for having viewed something that has never been written by me.
You presumed that my judgement of two characters would be automatically extended to ALL Indians girls "Because all people of Indian or Roma descendancy are to you very unattractive". While I just given my opinion about two models in the game that have strong Indian facial features. Ranting about my judgement of "all Indians" is possible only if you presume, as you are doing, that ALL Indians look the same, that's a really racist concept per se. I hear it very often, like "all Chinese look the same". And that's racist, for your information. I am not judging racism but just pointing out where it is.

You then move on trying to attribute to me what you think was attributed to you:
"If you think all Indians girls look like that, maybe you have a strong racist bias towards Indians and you should look for them on Google. If you think all Indians look the same, that is really racist"
Of course, nowhere in my post am I making any claim of any sort about the looks of Indian girls.
I never said that you express any kind of judgement about their look, please stop putting words in my mouth to confute your thesis. You simply implied, and repeated the same concept here, that not liking two characters with Indians features is equal to say "I do not like all Indians". Because in your mind there is only one "Indian feature". Well, not all Indians look the same, there is a really wide variety of aspects, like in many other ethnics groups.

At least you finally managed to make clear that your feelings about these individual CGI models was not meant to be interpreted as about Indian or Roma girls.
LOL I did not in fact! I just stated that if an Indian girl looked like that (and some approximately do look like that), I would not find her attractive. So, if any does, I find her not in my taste. Why just Indians? Simply because a Chinese could never look like that!
 

RogueKnightUK

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[insert assorted excuses based on ignorance and carelessness]
Look I get that English is not your native language, but you chose to use it. Under English that word order has meaning and the meaning is that Indian and Gypsies are generally Unattractive.

It is called 'Proxemics' - the study of meaning based on proximity

"I can't drink that. It is sour."
Has implicit meaning that the sourness is WHY you can't drink it.
"They are unattractive. They look Indian"
Same structure, so same implicit meaning.

All you had to do, was say "I'm sorry if it came across like that. I didn't mean that."
But instead you decided that having dug yourself into a hole, the best idea was to keep digging. You were wrong. Not on opinion, but on language. Just because you didn't mean what you said doesn't mean you didn't SAY it. Now, either you take it back, because you DID say it, or you shut up. Anything else just makes you look more and more ignorant and trollish by the minute.

Language. It has meaning. Who knew huh?
 

Gunizz

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Look I get that English is not your native language, but you chose to use it. Under English that word order has meaning and the meaning is that Indian and Gypsies are generally Unattractive.
I do not blame you, I blame bad UK schools where you do not study grammar, and you need people from India, Pakistan, Poland etc to fill the gap. :-D
The order has a meaning but you cannot presume things based on your fantasy.
If I say that some traits are Indians, it means that they are found in some Indians, obviously. Unless you think that all Indians share the same traits. I do not like those traits of the game models, and that's not racism, I am not implying they are worthless, that's a simple taste. If I say I do not like blondes, it does not mean I am racist towards Swedish people. I could be a Swede that likes only brunettes, as I could be an Indian that likes some girls of my country but not others. India is a very big and diverse country, for your information.

Meanwhile you think that if I had been racist I should apologize, in a forum where rape, abuse, incest or any sexual violence is simply considered a feature (and I have nothing against that, to be clear so you do not imply I am condemning this aspect). Are you joking, right?
 

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Yeah props to @naughtyroad to taking this in stride and making light of it. What if later on, the MC "sharpens" his old computer skillz and as a way to bond, the girls ask him to make 3D comics with them in it. But they gradually get more and more risky?

@Gunizz and @RogueKnightUK Let's call it for what it is. It's 2 different viewpoints looking at a sequence of events. You've both made some valid points. Let's leave it there and move on, okay? Don't make me pull out my inner Cartman. :D
 
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