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danadana
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chiro is chiro, his mother is chiro, his father is chiro, his grandfather is chiro and his future son will be chiro
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Many people DO NOT interpret these two terms correctly.
Сheating- Treason, which a) a spouse cheated on another spouse, b) a scandal began, c)The spouse may not be aware of the betrayal , d) in short, it leads to consequences... why they Сheating is another point...
BUT NTR- is not mediocre when a SPOUSE (yes, it is a spouse, because we are talking about a RELATIVE person and does NOT apply to any other person, which is why this term is sometimes attributed to unnecessary products, for example, games where SON and AUNTY, -_ - this is not even close to NTR), WATCHES or GIVES his full consent to “betrayal without consequences” or actively participates (sits and watches)... I repeat - this term works exclusively on MARRIED people, so it is often misunderstood...
Even the term comes from Japanese origin and briefly said in it that we are talking about cheating on a spouse who gives consent to it (the term is such a cuckold spouse) -_-
Therefore, every time I see this TAG and where the main character is a small child or a (NOT) married woman, it makes me laugh...
you get the engineer outfit in the main story just play and it will appear. Its not missable
Visya
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Hey uhh.. this is the cheat table for money in this game. I don't think the game worth cheating beyond this point tbh. lmk if you really do need to modify any other things like days, body development, etc.
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Yeah, the two terms can sometimes blur and mix with each other, but they're still very much defined.
People need to remember that while Cheating can lead to NTR and vice versa, they still are not the same thing. Specifically by the fact that Cheating is essentially "willing" while NTR doesn't have to be (willing to be Netorare'd is actually called "Netorase"). Both terms under NTR still essentially involve "stolen lovers" and cheating is simply your lover willing to be involved with another lover that you don't agree to if even they come back to you.
But seriously, it's in the list of tags. But to be fair, Chiro does act almost entirely female (and even sounds female) for some unexplained reason and even one of the beastmen in the slums doesn't know that Chiro is male (they want to date Chiro in fact).
And fun fact, this game references another Acerola game called "Tear and the Library of Labyrinths" which is where Chiro (but without images nor voices for Chiro at all) is from, as well as a fox girl (named Korin/Karin depending on the translation) that gets referenced in both the secret room in the slums and in the "free sex" room on a poster. Chiro is also a boy there too that's thought to be a girl (and ANOTHER beastman is interested in Chiro in that game as well but KNOWS it's a trap).
Then again, can anyone else tell the difference outside of the Chiro scenes (the only time you even see under that dress)?
Here's 2 non-lewd screenshots right here in fact (spoiler tagged to avoid bloating the post):
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Chiro is just far too cute for me to care if it's a trap... Well done Acerola, you're the first to make me think that way. It's to the point where I actually wanted MORE Chiro scenes than we already got (which is essentially about 5 unique situations)....
But also remember that Chiro can be temporarily "gender bent" too... (Basically the Tentacle scene after the 2nd time)
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EmiyaNanaya
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Anyone got the game crashed in the scene with Valis trying to detonate the large Lastone bomb? I got it twice now trying to finish the story...
During the scene where Sheryl infiltrates the lab for the third time and sees the chips being tested on the demons, Valis is referred to as "she".
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I disagree about everything you just said about what ntr means. NTR has been evolving since and it doesnt have the same meaning as the origin of the word. Heck, they even added a new sub genre called BSS. If you want to get stuck in the past meaning , then you're the only one shooting itself in the foot. Japanese devs are using other relationship combinations aside from spouse , because it's not about it anymore. Ntr is simply about loss (within its context ofc) .
Anyway, before this comment might get nuked (due to some mods being strict lately), you can easily educate yourself about what's the standard ntr definition now instead of blabbing the old meaning of the genre and thinking it's still the standard. Here's a thread about it:
https://f95zone.to/threads/help-with-netorare-ntr-definitions-recommendations-and-resources.99024/
I dont wanna turn this topic into a long discussion in this thread, so if you want to respond, do so by simply DMing me. Otherwise, I'll just ignore the response.
Visya
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Yeah. There are many subgenre to NTR. For example there's netorase where they gave consent or want to get cucked.
I disagree about everything you just said about what ntr means. NTR has been evolving since and it doesnt have the same meaning as the origin of the word. Heck, they even added a new sub genre called BSS. If you want to get stuck in the past meaning , then you're the only one shooting itself in the foot. Japanese devs are using other relationship combinations aside from spouse , because it's not about it anymore. Ntr is simply about loss (within its context ofc) .
Anyway, before this comment might get nuked (due to some mods being strict lately), you can easily educate yourself about what's the standard ntr definition now instead of blabbing the old meaning of the genre and thinking it's still the standard. Here's a thread about it:
https://f95zone.to/threads/help-with-netorare-ntr-definitions-recommendations-and-resources.99024/
I dont wanna turn this topic into a long discussion in this thread, so if you want to respond, do so by simply DMing me. Otherwise, I'll just ignore the response.
For me at the end of the day, NTR is just "cuckoldry"
cIoseopenbrutal
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I respect that opinion. But in general, there's actually a difference between ntr and cuckoldry. In case you want to know the differences between ntr and cuckoldry , I always refer to this post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/night-sc...tion-final-kotatsu-mikan.150535/post-10188283
and if you dont care, that's totally fine as well.
To finalize this discussion, Cheating tag on this game is the appropriate one to put.
-(Inb4 "AnOtHeR NtR DeBaCkLe " commenter)-
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Visya
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For this game? No. I basically made it because I don't want to bother scanning the money values everytime I boot up the game. And there's no one actually making cheats for it atm.
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Kazuka13
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Except Vanis knows that Sheryl is engaged and INTENDS to steal her away from her future husband. And she's NOT willing until she gets raped a few times
sounds like NTR to me. And for that thread you linked, then there should be a cuckoldry tag if that's the case. IMO, both cheating AND NTR/cuckoldry should be here, cause it's no secret that Vanis is trying to cuck Sheryl's fiance IN THE INTRO no less, and even mentions her engagement if you use Sheryl to talk to Vanis in his mansion.
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Visya
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While true, the point still stands since Vanis is pretty open about the "steal your girl" dynamic