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Just to point out that the sister would be of age already anywhere in Europe, most US states, and the vast majority of the Western/developed world. California is the outlier world with its absurdly high age of consent, but sadly the Golden State is where the story happens, so its unreasonable standards are relevant.
The title of the chapter "15 will get you 20" is a direct reference to her being underage legally. in 2025 there is no state where the age of consent is below 18.
 

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The title of the chapter "15 will get you 20" is a direct reference to her being underage legally. in 2025 there is no state where the age of consent is below 18.
I understand Hailee is 16 (two years younger than Leelee, who is 18), which is the age of consent in 30 states according to wikipedia. I doubt editors would have missed a generalized and successful drive to raise it to 18 in all of them. OK, it seems Oklahoma recently did it, but it is still just one state.
 

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I understand Hailee is 16 (two years younger than Leelee, who is 18), which is the age of consent in 30 states according to wikipedia. I doubt editors would have missed a generalized and successful drive to raise it to 18 in all of them. OK, it seems Oklahoma recently did it, but it is still just one state.
I guess it was just a typo, they meant to write 16 and not 18.
 

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I understand Hailee is 16 (two years younger than Leelee, who is 18), which is the age of consent in 30 states according to wikipedia. I doubt editors would have missed a generalized and successful drive to raise it to 18 in all of them. OK, it seems Oklahoma recently did it, but it is still just one state.
I dont know what you're looking at in wikipedia, but its not the case. its also not a new thing, nor a thing anyone would support to lower it. you may be in an FBI monitored section of wikipedia...

any person below the age of 18 in the united states is a minor, and no minor can consent to sex with an adult.
 

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Ok, The California Age of Consent is 18 years old. Ignoring the California Penal Code, do you honestly think Marah would sign off on Hailee and Ryker? Would Ryker survive Sluggo's wrath? Marah stated 18 so it HAS to be 18 to keep Ryker alive if she and Sluggo can find an appropriate requirement for her to date him.
 

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Ok, The California Age of Consent is 18 years old. Ignoring the California Penal Code, do you honestly think Marah would sign off on Hailee and Ryker? Would Ryker survive Sluggo's wrath? Marah stated 18 so it HAS to be 18 to keep Ryker alive if she and Sluggo can find an appropriate requirement for her to date him.
Hailee is the 2 years younger sister, LeeLee is the 18yo MC went on the date with.
 

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I dont know what you're looking at in wikipedia, but its not the case. its also not a new thing, nor a thing anyone would support to lower it. you may be in an FBI monitored section of wikipedia...
Couldn't care less. I post from my country, where AoC is 14, and my continent, where it is 16 max everywhere but Ireland and Cyprus. Screw America, its prudery, and its criminalization of teen hormones.

any person below the age of 18 in the united states is a minor, and no minor can consent to sex with an adult.
First time I ever heard of such a law. I keep my scepticism.
 
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Ok, The California Age of Consent is 18 years old. Ignoring the California Penal Code, do you honestly think Marah would sign off on Hailee and Ryker? Would Ryker survive Sluggo's wrath? Marah stated 18 so it HAS to be 18 to keep Ryker alive if she and Sluggo can find an appropriate requirement for her to date him.
That's another issue entirely. I can see the reasons why Sluggo and Marah want to delay the issue until Hailee graduates and Ryker wants to heed their wishes, even if Hailee is going to try and push the boundaries like crazy any time he is within reach. I have been acknowledging California's law is relevant here even if it is an outlier b/c it is the place where the main cast lives.
 
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Couldn't care less. I post from my country, where AoC is 14, and my continent, where it is 16 maximum almost everywhere but Ireland.
Wrong.
The majority of countries set their ages in the range of 14 to 16; only four countries, (17), the (17), (18), and the (18), set an unrestricted age of consent higher than 16.
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Also the dev couldn't care less about your opinion about that, as well as Sluggo and Marah. Even more so, if the dev want the age of consent to be 21 years - for whatever reasons - it would be, simple because of that.
 

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OH SHIT! I just thought of one of the huge hazards to Ryker if Liza does eventually get pregnant. The first time Wally refers to Papa Walt.
 

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Admittedly, you are right, because of Cyprus. I failed to notice its status in the map, because of its small size and peripheral location. If you ask my reasoned opinion, Turkey is not a real European country, and Vatican City is not a real country at all, so they don't count.

Also the dev couldn't care less about your opinion about that, as well as Sluggo and Marah. Even more so, if the dev want the age of consent to be 21 years - for whatever reasons - it would be, simple because of that.
I acknowldge the reasons why California law is relevant here since it is where the story takes place, why Sluggo and Marah want to delay the issue until Hailee graduates, and why Ryker is going to heed their wishes out of respect for them. As far as I am concerned, I find super tiresome when Americans talk like their legal and social standards are valid everywhere in the Western/developed world and people outside their country have to heed them. We Europeans have our own rules, thank you, and we are content with them.
 
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Admittedly, you are right, because of Cyprus. I failed to notice its status in the map, because of its small size and peripheral location. If you ask my opinion, Turkey is not an European country, and Vatican City is not a real country, so they don't count.



I acknowldge the reasons why California law is relevant here, since it is where the story takes place, and why Sluggo and Marah want to delay the issue until Hailee graduates. As far as the European me is concerned, I find super tiresome when Americans talk like their legal and social standards are valid everywhere in the Western/developed world. We have our own rules, thank you, and we are content with them.
Yep it is easy to miss Cyprus, and Turkey is like 10% on the European side and 90% on the Asian continent side (like Russia but much smaller) so easy to not remember it is an European country if they weren't keep trying to enter in the European Union haha. Vatican city yeah just a city inside of another much larger city of another country but its considered a state and since it is a very conservative religious state so is normal that have 18 AoC.
 
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Turkey is not a real European country, and Vatican City is not a real country at all, so they don't count.
That is up to debate, same as Russian - for Turkey. Yet, common ground is, they are counted to Europe at least partly.
Also Vatican City is by all means regarded as a real country, if not all other city state would be the same and in addition Liechtenstein too as they share many characteristics that those city state have.
As far as the European me is concerned, I find super tiresome when Americans talk like their legal and social standards are valid everywhere in the Western/developed world and people outside their country have to heed them. We have our own rules, thank you, and we are content with them.
It is an US dev that develop that title and it is base in the US. Same would be if a Swiss dev made a game that is based in the Swiss.
Even more it wouldn't make sense to have a game based in the US and all the laws and other conditions would be based on Zimbabwe.

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if not all other city state would be the same and in addition Liechtenstein too as they share many characteristics that those city state have.
And don't forget San Marino also, another micro state inside of Italy just like Vatican City, Monaco also but in some things they are more French than really a sovereign state.
 
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And don't forget San Marino also, another micro state inside of Italy just like Vatican City, Monaco also but in some things they are more French than really a sovereign state.
I've mean all those (Andorra, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino and Vatican City).
 
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Most of you are right, different countries have different laws same as states here. If LRH was in Morgantown, WV Hailee would be on the menu just like if it was Riyadh she would be married with 4 kids.
 

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Not really... i mean, yeah, it's above board but it still feels like cucking a brother...
It's an impossible situation. They both share a past in which drug addiction almost killed them. He knows that she's very likely to relapse into it and is basically saying "do whatever it takes so that she doesn't go down that road". I don't think it has anything to do with a kink either, it's just a crappy situation.

Would he rather his woman died from drugs for his absence, or that she fuck a friend and remained sane until he gets out? That's kind of the situation there. Obviously he doesn't want her to, he's just giving her the go-ahead to do whatever's necessary.
 

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I've mean all those (Andorra, Liechtenstein, Malta, Monaco, San Marino and Vatican City).
Yep and I only have been in Andorra before since is the closer one to Portugal. Awesome if you like snow and winter activities.

About what you mention in your previous post in the spoiler box, I don't think Dima is imposing the US value system, I like this game just as I like any other game made by USA developers and probably most of them in my sig are from the US, I don't really look at nationalities from the games and their creators, all I care is having fun and a good story to read and look at. The user you quoted wasn't mentioning the dev anyway but a few USA users and I kind of agree with them, not with all of them, just a few of them try to impose their views, laws and way of living but I guess that happens in every big and powerful countries hehe.
 
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