VN Ren'Py Lost Daughter [v0.4] [Verde]

[LWtbo]

Wrong. MC is sleeping and can't give consent - thus its rape, just so you know.

Sorry again but its not Rape unless he wakes up to her bouncing up and down on his cock
Or He wakes up becuase she just shoved a Dildo up his ass then Its just Sexual Assault.
Rape: A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person
(b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that person B consents.

Sexual Assault: (1)A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)he intentionally touches another person (B),
(b)the touching is sexual,(c)B does not consent to the touching, and
(d)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

 

[TonyMurray]

Sorry again but its not Rape unless he wakes up to her bouncing up and down on his cock
Or He wakes up becuase she just shoved a Dildo up his ass then Its just Sexual Assault.
Rape: A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person
(b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that person B consents.

Sexual Assault: (1)A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)he intentionally touches another person (B),
(b)the touching is sexual,(c)B does not consent to the touching, and
(d)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Just to add to this, it should be noted that different countries (and in some cases, different parts of countries) have different laws, including how they define rape. It's enough in everyday speak to say "non-consent is rape", but depending on where in the world you are, that might not be the case in legal speak (and it's likely that none of us are lawyers here).

 

[Unexpected Error]

Sorry again but its not Rape unless he wakes up to her bouncing up and down on his cock
Or He wakes up becuase she just shoved a Dildo up his ass then Its just Sexual Assault.
Rape: A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person
(b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that person B consents.

Sexual Assault: (1)A person (A) commits an offence if—(a)he intentionally touches another person (B),
(b)the touching is sexual,(c)B does not consent to the touching, and
(d)A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Following those statements it would still be sexual assault wich is not better than rape. And as

Just to add to this, it should be noted that different countries (and in some cases, different parts of countries) have different laws, including how they define rape. It's enough in everyday speak to say "non-consent is rape", but depending on where in the world you are, that might not be the case in legal speak (and it's likely that none of us are lawyers here).

this points out, it might be different depending on laws and country. If you touch me while I sleep and I can#t give you consent, it's rape to me and in my country, easy as that.


Edit: An true, we might not be lawyers, but if someone would touch me like that and say it's not rape aka. acting like there was nothing wrong, he might end up needing a lawyer because I will punch him half to death after and say it was not attemted murder but just self defence.


TLDR; I am pretty sure people who complain about the "rape" in this VN do not really care if its rape or sexual assault, it's the fact that the girl does something illegal.

 

[kameohawk]

Had to stop once I got taken to the island. What a stupid premise. Imagine thinking this was the way rather than just going "hey, you've got a dad. He's there. Sorry but I'm dying bye." Does it ever get explained later why she didn't do this? Is it ever explained why the MC goes along with the nonsense rather than just telling her straight? I COULD tell her I'm her long lost dad buuuuuuut I could also just give off mad stalker vibes and go from there"

Older women will literally abduct their granddaughter and strand her on a desert island with their dad who they don't know instead of just speaking to her

 

[Gojii]

So basically because MC is mad at his mother (in law)? He's going to be a totally creep to (bad path), or let his daughter creep/pursue him ("normal" path)?

What is this? Actual brainrot story.

 

[Nimbus Commando]

I Just rechecked just to be sure... and as i thought a hand job dos not constitute Rape just so you know.

Are you high, yeah it does.

 

[LWtbo]

Are you high, yeah it does.

No but you are if you think it do's.

 

[theoffkilter]

No but you are if you think it do's.

So your saying if someone held you down , or waited till you were passed out drunk and gave you a handjob without your consent, you would not have been raped?

 

[TonyMurray]

So your saying if someone held you down , or waited till you were passed out drunk and gave you a handjob without your consent, you would not have been raped?

I think (though I may of course be wrong) that when people are having this argument, they're getting too "specific" about it all. Laws are different around the world, and some of the most common countries represented here have definitions of rape that include the accused's penis entering someone else's body (which does also mean that under those laws, a female is technically incapable of committing rape). So in that "legal" respect, it wouldn't be rape, but maybe sexual assault.

Ultimately though, it's non-consensual, so going back and forth about whether it's "technically" rape or not is just splitting hairs. We're not in the legal system here, we can call it what it is without having to worry about whether or not it would hold up in court...

 

[LWtbo]

So your saying if someone held you down , or waited till you were passed out drunk and gave you a handjob without your consent, you would not have been raped?

Correct you just described Sexual Assualt how hard is that to understand.

No non-consensual penertration no rape and Women can Rape men if they use a Dildo or other foreign object,
Strap on ect .
You can't use the None Consent equals rape argument as its both too vague, only used in certain areas and still wrong.
Even in this day and age there are alot of countries were None Consent is not even recongnised as Rape.
And this argument is still off topic.

 

[Gojii]

Correct you just described Sexual Assualt how hard is that to understand.

No non-consensual penertration no rape and Women can Rape men if they use a Dildo or other foreign object,
Strap on ect .
You can't use the None Consent equals rape argument as its both too vague, only used in certain areas and still wrong.
Even in this day and age there are alot of countries were None Consent is not even recongnised as Rape.
And this argument is still off topic.

ACKSHUALLY:

Depends on the country. But it would be equivalent to fingerbanging/masturbation of a woman without consent as both are considered forced masturbation. However if the person has been inebriated/drugged/unconscious depending on the jurisdiction/country both may still be charged as rape anyhow due to the seriousness of the crime via "escalating circumstances" resulting in "enhanced charges."

Same goes for blackmail. It may be a situation where prosecutors seek charging as a means of escalating the punishment given the circumstances that a sexual assault takes place. For example, even if penetrative sex doesn't occur if with a minor many jurisdictions will charge the offender with "statutory rape" anyhow even if it's sexual assault instead of rape.

There is nuance to sex crime law where even if it is "technically" sexual assault, circumstances with which the crime occurs, prosecution will in some case seek to charge with a more serious charge if they feel they can gain a conviction, especially when there is hard evidence of the instances of the alleged crime(s) and circumstances involving it (battery, assault with a deadly weapon, defendant was a minor, blackmail, intentionally intoxicating/drugging the victim, etc).

So yeah, even if what happens was "sexual assault", the circumstances CAN lead to it being considered rape, especially if the person CAN'T consent by the willful intent of the perpetrator.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I Just rechecked just to be sure... and as i thought a hand job dos not constitute Rape just so you know.

Legally, here only exist sexual assault (in fact, sexual assault is considered a synonym for rape, according to the law itself, although rape is not a legal term), which ranges from non-consensual groping to having sex with another person without their express consent (forcing them through violence, while they're sleeping, etc.). So, forcing a girl to give you a handjob would be sexual assault (and the same as a girl giving a guy a handjob without his consent).

In fact, there was a rather famous conviction because the former president of the RFEF gave a non-consensual kiss to a female soccer player in public and was convicted of sexual assault.