VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[winterwolf200]

Would you refer to the man you love as a "fragile boy"?
Or dehumanize him and invalidate his feelings by describing them as "male ego"?

Would you hide the tennis dates from him?

Would you be relieved when he asks not to help him finding out what Lacey is plotting?

But wait there is more: would you let him watch, during a ptsd episode no less, his wife getting railed by a guy that keeps on insulting him?

Would you forgive and run back crying g to the pimp after she destroyed MC self worth with her "lessons"?

Or even delete the Isaac recording, so that Lacey can offer a totally edulcorated and redacted version of the events?

Or maybe when she doesn't tell Lacey that the job is fake nor expose her to MC immediately?

When does Anna protect MC? Is shouting at Lacey once during the Lorenzo event enough?
Or telling Mia off very lightly at the king weekend?
Is this the maximum protection we can expect?

Or when Anna lies to Lacey at work and sends her home where Mia was waiting for her with a bag of special K.

 

[Maviarab]

Would you refer to the man you love as a "fragile boy"?
Or dehumanize him and invalidate his feelings by describing them as "male ego"?

Would you hide the tennis dates from him?

Would you be relieved when he asks not to help him finding out what Lacey is plotting?

But wait there is more: would you let him watch, during a ptsd episode no less, his wife getting railed by a guy that keeps on insulting him?

Would you forgive and run back crying g to the pimp after she destroyed MC self worth with her "lessons"?

Or even delete the Isaac recording, so that Lacey can offer a totally edulcorated and redacted version of the events?

Or maybe when she doesn't tell Lacey that the job is fake nor expose her to MC immediately?

When does Anna protect MC? Is shouting at Lacey once during the Lorenzo event enough?
Or telling Mia off very lightly at the king weekend?
Is this the maximum protection we can expect?

Or when Anna lies to Lacey at work and sends her home where Mia was waiting for her with a bag of special K.

Exactly. At this point, the dev has turned Anna into something almost as bad as Mia. Real shame.

Just have to hope that Lacey/Mia NEVER ever meet Bethany (as much as I still love Kelly, she is being compromised)....

 

[MightbeSomeone]

Other Mia' steal the MC through Ket plan....Lacey requires no help from anyone to destroy them.


What are you referring to specifically here? Her time in college was one 'one friend'....anything after, is all down to her and her alone, her 'friends' even try to talk her out of it most of the time, example being Damian.

Remember Lacey telling the MC, Mia and Anna balnce each other out? If they both agree then I know it's a good idea. Remember the fix the cuck convo in the cafe? Neither agree with her....she ignores them anyway (and Mia even walks away saying if you do it, you do it alone).

So not sure exactly what that comment of yours means.

Im talking about the live stream. That was not supposed to be what happened . Mia is trying to destroy them and they dont see it

 

[Maviarab]

Im talking about the live stream. That was not supposed to be what happened . Mia is trying to destroy them and they dont see it

The live stream had fuck all to do with Mia (and I despise defending the pimp). All Lacey. Mia herself said it was a bad idea and would end her marriage. She was against it....Lacey ignored her.

 

[DeviantFun]

Exactly. At this point, the dev has turned Anna into something almost as bad as Mia. Real shame.

Just have to hope that Lacey/Mia NEVER ever meet Bethany (as much as I still love Kelly, she is being compromised)....

As bad as Anna is written sometimes, she would never ever reach the pure levels of filth the pimp reaches.

Like she could kill MC and use his intestines as head ornaments and I would still be on the fence.

The live stream had fuck all to do with Mia (and I despise defending the pimp). All Lacey. Mia herself said it was a bad idea and would end her marriage. She was against it....Lacey ignored her.

True, but don't you have the feeling both her and Anna are very passive?

I can understand the pimp,,she just washes her hands, she will have her fun anyway, but where is the Anna protection?

The pimp with all this strong connection to Lacey, this amazing powers to push her to do what she wants, who spent weeks convincing her to start putting fists up her ass and tacking cock, couldn't spend a few hours more convincing her that this was a bad idea? Like...what?

Failed character

 

[AL.d]

Let's talk about Anna.
Despite the fact that I follow the topic, I am perplexed by the negativity towards her.
Her behavior and actions fit into the presented character and did not cause me negativity. I will say more - for a woman with unrequited love, her actions are very generous.. And to some extent, you can trace the maternal notes - she tries to take care of the man as best she can.
The only moment that spoils the whole idyllic picture is the completely ridiculous love-friendly attitude towards Lacey. In any case, her attitude towards her should balance from hostility to hatred.
Unfortunately, she cannot be considered as a potential match for our boy. But not because she is bad.

I suspect dev sees Anna like you do. Which means her character is royally fucked.

Let's say you had a dear friend who often makes comments about fragile male ego and treats you like a child. Who was aware of your wife frolicking with the dude who wants to fuck her at work and was going on double dates with her. Who was aware she was entertaining that dude at parties and even planning to bring him in your hot tub. Who was aware your addict wife was using behind your back and even kicked you out of your own place to hide it. Aware but said nothing to you. That same friend was aware of your wife's plan to "reprogram" you into a cuckold and supported it. Same friend who had footage of your wife meeting her ex at your home and deleted it.

That's an enemy, not a friend and I would be truly worried for anyone thinking of that kind of person as such.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

The live stream had fuck all to do with Mia (and I despise defending the pimp). All Lacey. Mia herself said it was a bad idea and would end her marriage. She was against it....Lacey ignored her.

And then mia showed it to everyone
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[Maviarab]

And then mia showed it to everyone
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No, she didn't.

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Tell me please where Mia shows it to everyone?

Some of us here pretty much know this script backwards at this point, especially DeviantFun, Crysus and myself (and I completely deconstructed the entire script to make my timeline). If we say Anna did/did not do something, she did/didn't do it.

If I defend Mia, I'm doing so begrudgingly because she did nothing wrong (for once).

 

[MightbeSomeone]

No, she didn't.

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Tell me please where Mia shows it to everyone?

Some of us here pretty much know this script backwards at this point, especially DeviantFun, Crysus and myself (and I completely descrontucted the entire script to make my timeline). If we say Anna did/did not do something, she did/didn't do it.

If I defend Mia, I'm doing so begrudgingly because she did nothing wrong (for once).

Ive done one pt of the game -that scene was from it looked like all Pushed by mia keeping her drugged up and pushing in the background since she wants them broken up.

mia is from what i saw evil
Keeping videos for years to show to him to destroy them

but again my biggest issue is the dev did not allow the mc and his wife make a yes or no choice on this , he did not allow the mc to chose his path after this and he did not allow the mc to no have sex with others to stop the plan.

 

[Maviarab]

Ive done one pt of the game -that scene was from it looked like all Pushed by mia keeping her drugged up and pushing in the background since she wants them broken up.

mia is from what i saw evil
Keeping videos for years to show to him to destroy them

but again my biggest issue is the dev did not allow the mc and his wife make a yes or no choice on this , he did not allow the mc to chose his path after this and he did not allow the mc to no have sex with others to stop the plan.

Aaaaannnnnnd now you're moving the goalposts and the point....and got some of that wrong also....

Good job

that scene was from it looked like all Pushed by mia keeping her drugged up and pushing in the background since she wants them broken up.

Have you actually read anything from my last few posts????

mia is from what i saw evil

Agreed.

Keeping videos for years to show to him to destroy them

Maybe lost in translation? She never shows the MC a video, never says she took any videos and never says she has any videos.

the dev did not allow the mc and his wife make a yes or no choice on this

Whilst very annoying, to really show what a despicable piece of used up trash she is and what she really wants. MC is right to be wary of 'the love experiment' (as the jealousy date shows).

and he did not allow the mc to no have sex with others to stop the plan.

Ummm...are we playing the same game? The whole free pass was to aleviate her guilt.

 

[winterwolf200]

And then mia showed it to everyone
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No....Lacey was filming it for the MC and Christine moved it on the flat screen TV. Mia had nothing to do with it.
She was even against Lacey's plan to do it.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

What am I missing -

 

[winterwolf200]

What am I missing -

The video Lacey made when she went on a work trip with Veronica. The one where she had sex with Damian and shot it live for the MC.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

Ill do another PT and look closer - guess I missed stuff - but it was quite disturbing and I wish there were more choice points

 

[Diosvincenccio]

What am I missing -

A lot of nuance. This is not a quick lecture or a skip to sex scenes, or you are gonna miss a lot of info to make sense of the game. For example Christine attitude in this Damian scene makes sense when you know who Christine uncle is, and that is revealed later. This is a game where you have to go back and check dialogues a lot.

Christine had orders from his uncle to "unmask" Lacey as the cheating whore she is to "protect the MC". Thats why she goes away from the Damian scene for a moment and when it cames back she has a different attitude, sudenly she is the one who wants the video on the TV to be played in front of everyone.

 

[DeviantFun]

A lot of nuance. This is not a quick lecture or a skip to sex scenes, or you are gonna miss a lot of info to make sense of the game. For example Christine attitude in this Damian scene makes sense when you know who Christine uncle is, and that is revealed later. This is a game where you have to go back and check dialogues a lot.

Christine had orders from his uncle to "unmask" Lacey as the cheating whore she is to "protect the MC". Thats why she goes away from the Damian scene for a moment and when it cames back she has a different attitude, sudenly she is the one who wants the video on the TV to be played in front of everyone.

And yet, her behaviour was the more natural of them all, and the only one that somehow cared about MC.

Since the pimp tries to fo the same in act 2....

 

[MightbeSomeone]

is there going to be an act3

 

[winterwolf200]

is there going to be an act3

Not if the dev ever reads this thread, no.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

is there going to be an act3

Yes, the end of Act 2 even revealed the name for Act 3. But the Dev is gonna make a small game in between to recharge the creative juices, or whatever you wanna call it. I expect it in around 5 or 6 months. 2-3 for the new game, and another 2-3 for the development of the Act 3. We will see how it goes.

 

[DeviantFun]

Yes, the end of Act 2 even revealed the name for Act 3. But the Dev is gonna make a small game in between to recharge the creative juices, or whatever you wanna call it. I expect it in around 5 or 6 months. 2-3 for the new game, and another 2-3 for the development of the Act 3. We will see how it goes.

You know, it might be because I am a shit writer, but when artists start focusing on different stories all at once, the quality usually drops.

To write a story with a lot of characters with different personalities, you need to immerse a bit and imagine what would they do?

I fear that the strong changes in some characters in act 2 comes from this, Christine even forgot to say Daddy (not that I am fond of the term, it was one of her characteristics).
The characters will do what the story needs from them (see: Anna) and not what they would do, because the mind is somewhere else, half focused on another story, or simply losing the details of the current story.