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Issac also stated this while MC and Issac were talking in the gym locker room after punk guy pissed off MC
OK, I remember that. It is from early in Act 1, so anything Lacey says about her past at this point I cannot take at face value. Isaac in Act 2 said that Lacey kicked him after call from Anna, and when she talks with MC she already in withdrawal ? Something doesn't add up. Unless we get some perspective on that day from different source I will have my doubts. The only possible source is Isaac, who was with her at that day. As MC and Isaac are talking now maybe we will get to hear his perspective.
 
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OH, Right, yeah, I like her
Yeah, she will be a good friend for the MCs. Calls Lacey on her shit, points out the narcissistic qualities she has, and can tell her from personal experience how what she does affects those she loves.Well at the same time, accepting Lacey and giving her guidance. Honestly, the MC needs to listen to her, truly hear how similar her experiences are to his, and get some therapy.
 

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Yeah, she will be a good friend for the MCs. Calls Lacey on her shit, points out the narcissistic qualities she has, and can tell her from personal experience how what she does affects those she loves.Well at the same time, accepting Lacey and giving her guidance. Honestly, the MC needs to listen to her, truly hear how similar her experiences are to his, and get some therapy.
I reckon Dianne is there because she is essentially the end product of what the MC should/will be with the right support and help

So it might as a wake up call for him
 
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this is the theory I want to believe in, but it doesn't match the fact that the monster doesn't know how a specific file will be delivered and when, if it was MC split personality he should have seen the file already and know where it is, else how does he know about the file?
its more simple than you think if MC is dissociative. from the start in act I we were warned that what we see is all from MC's perspective and not necessarily reality. now in act II we see clear indications of time and memory loss from him. in fact im certain he has an episode the same day before he "sees" the video. it would actually make sense that during the episode is when his brain created some Monster text memories and the video has been on the phone since then. the order and time of his memories do not have to be the order in which we see them happen. because we are seeing them happen as MC sees them.

the misdirect is him having his friend look into the military level phone hack text. if she comes back saying there were no text, then everyone is going to say she is the monster, when its just as likely all in his head. in reality, the only proof that Monster isnt MC will be if someone can find actual traces and proof of the texts coming from another person and place then MC.

i think the Monster being the MC's non emotional guardian personality is whats going on. but when i think about how nothing and no ones behavior in the story make any real life sense, so its also unlikely thats the way dev is going. but i still prefer that theory to the others. makes more sense, and we also get to pretend some part of MC is a snivelling little bitch
 
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Issac also stated this while MC and Issac were talking in the gym locker room after punk guy pissed off MC
I think we should trust that this is really what happened. I trust what Isaac and Lacey have to say about that day at this point. However, I also trust them both overall and feel like they both genuinely want to be better people. Maybe the author got the timetable of withdrawals wrong? Maybe there was more time between Anna's initial calls and when Lacey called the MC than it seemed. Or maybe she would rather say she had withdrawals than say that she was coming down from a world-shattering binge of K and alcohol, and that it was all catching up with her at once.
 
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OK, I remember that. It is from early in Act 1, so anything Lacey says about her past at this point I cannot take at face value. Isaac in Act 2 said that Lacey kicked him after call from Anna, and when she talks with MC she already in withdrawal ? Something doesn't add up. Unless we get some perspective on that day from different source I will have my doubts. The only possible source is Isaac, who was with her at that day. As MC and Isaac are talking now maybe we will get to hear his perspective.
That one never worried me too much , but I have always thought that there was more happened at the marketing party and Lacey either doesn't remember or just isn't saying , after all on the phone she sounded completely out of it and didn't even realise the MC was in the living room when she tried to sneak back in and change
 
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So, wondering if the video really was a deep fake. Will states "the blond in processing still needs money for college so we can use her again" at the end of ACT II while watching them in the hot tub, also stated by Barty and Will at the end, they both mentioned deep fakes. So, I believe the video is a deep fake.

I had to create a new profile due to F95 not accepting my old one for some reason.

ANYWAY: I would love to see a poll on if you were MC and knowing the back story, would you still be with Lacey and when was your breaking point if you couldn't stay with her. Second Poll: If you left Lacey, who would you want to be with.

Just a curiosity

I have gone numb to the story, i can't call it a game

I have an alternative story thought that would still line up with L&J plots but would help us that are not Cucks or into NTR
Before finding the dude groping her in the hot tub, I could have possibly thought I can fix her. Returning home to a literal cuck scene intro, after the tennis dates and catching her giggling like a schoolgirl from being molested by that dude? I'd be running for the hills.

Girl's perception of relationships and sex is fundamentally broken. She's literally incapable of understanding marriage and monogamy. Can't fix that.

Only one I'd consider would be Diane. Only person actually using common sense in a world of lunatics. Also she actually looks like an adult...
 

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OK, I remember that. It is from early in Act 1, so anything Lacey says about her past at this point I cannot take at face value. Isaac in Act 2 said that Lacey kicked him after call from Anna, and when she talks with MC she already in withdrawal ? Something doesn't add up. Unless we get some perspective on that day from different source I will have my doubts. The only possible source is Isaac, who was with her at that day. As MC and Isaac are talking now maybe we will get to hear his perspective.
It's not mutually exclusive. The claim is "On the specific day that Lacey had sex with Isaac, when she discovered 'the reset', Anna called her about MC going to the cliffs

Some things that that were stated (though could be lies)
1.) Lacey was unsure if MC would love her again, and she had a lot of guilt
2.) She seemed to be tempted by Isaac's offer to 'escape'
3.) She did seem to be throwing up or dry heaving during the call. However, it's shown multiple times now that characters throw up/dry heave when they are disgusted (such as Christine when she discovers the truth about Jared)
4.) She didn't have her phone on her for hours

With all that being said, a possibility is that she discovered the reset, but now that she's accomplished what was preventing her to go back to MC, she questions if she deserves that after everything she's done to hurt MC. She is tempted by Isaac's offer to escape because that's the easy path. However, the phone call shows her that the MC can't live without her, so despite her fears/guilt, she gets the courage to keep moving instead of escaping
 

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OK, I remember that. It is from early in Act 1, so anything Lacey says about her past at this point I cannot take at face value. Isaac in Act 2 said that Lacey kicked him after call from Anna, and when she talks with MC she already in withdrawal ? Something doesn't add up. Unless we get some perspective on that day from different source I will have my doubts. The only possible source is Isaac, who was with her at that day. As MC and Isaac are talking now maybe we will get to hear his perspective.
Yeah, when Anna calls, Lacey is probably hungover as fuck and still dripping Isaac cum.
Sorry for the graphic image.

She doesn't want to admit it and MC is too stupid to notice.

And to underline this, she was getting railed while MC was desperately trying to reach her, but this we knew already.

This also mean that the 3 weeks could have gone longer and opens the possibility of the whole "leaving with Isaac" not being a fleeting moment, but something more.

I guess this is what people wanted when they talked about a timeline.

It's not mutually exclusive. The claim is "On the specific day that Lacey had sex with Isaac, when she discovered 'the reset', Anna called her about MC going to the cliffs

Some things that that were stated (though could be lies)
1.) Lacey was unsure if MC would love her again, and she had a lot of guilt
2.) She seemed to be tempted by Isaac's offer to 'escape'
3.) She did seem to be throwing up or dry heaving during the call. However, it's shown multiple times now that characters throw up/dry heave when they are disgusted (such as Christine when she discovers the truth about Jared)
4.) She didn't have her phone on her for hours

With all that being said, a possibility is that she discovered the reset, but now that she's accomplished what was preventing her to go back to MC, she questions if she deserves that after everything she's done to hurt MC. She is tempted by Isaac's offer to escape because that's the easy path. However, the phone call shows her that the MC can't live without her, so despite her fears/guilt, she gets the courage to keep moving instead of escaping
I might have misunderstood you, but the physical withdrawal symptoms do not appear in a matter of hours, so unless she stopped using during those last 3 days, which we kinda know is not true because she said she needed to be high on K to get the reset from Isaac and she discovered it in the last day.

All of this points out in her having just recovered from the high and being hungover.
Granted, you can puke from K use, it is more common than you think but she was an experienced user so I doubt it.

One thing is true, she did question, rightfully, if she was worthy of MC anymore.
 
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That one never worried me too much , but I have always thought that there was more happened at the marketing party and Lacey either doesn't remember or just isn't saying , after all on the phone she sounded completely out of it and didn't even realise the MC was in the living room when she tried to sneak back in and change
Well it doesn`t matter to me too. I have my opinion on Lacey and it includes all possible stupid shit she may have done.
But I actually think that Lacey actually never went behind MC`s back and outright cheated on him. Damian (also known as Bastian) doesn't count because it was in the open and planned.

About Alter Ego theory.

I have re read messaging between MC and TM looking for clues that its pre recorded series of massages or something like that, but didn't find any. But TM seem to react in real time.

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Yeah, when Anna calls, Lacey is probably hungover as fuck and still dripping Isaac cum.
Sorry for the graphic image.

She doesn't want to admit it and MC is too stupid to notice.

And to underline this, she was getting railed while MC was desperately trying to reach her, but this we knew already.
Heh no need to be sorry. That is what I thought too :) Yeah and she WAS getting railed at the time when MC was in a crisis. What a dogshit. But I have already made my peace with it.
 
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It's not mutually exclusive. The claim is "On the specific day that Lacey had sex with Isaac, when she discovered 'the reset', Anna called her about MC going to the cliffs

Some things that that were stated (though could be lies)
1.) Lacey was unsure if MC would love her again, and she had a lot of guilt
2.) She seemed to be tempted by Isaac's offer to 'escape'
3.) She did seem to be throwing up or dry heaving during the call. However, it's shown multiple times now that characters throw up/dry heave when they are disgusted (such as Christine when she discovers the truth about Jared)
4.) She didn't have her phone on her for hours

With all that being said, a possibility is that she discovered the reset, but now that she's accomplished what was preventing her to go back to MC, she questions if she deserves that after everything she's done to hurt MC. She is tempted by Isaac's offer to escape because that's the easy path. However, the phone call shows her that the MC can't live without her, so despite her fears/guilt, she gets the courage to keep moving instead of escaping
I agree with what you are saying. We only disagree on one thing. I believe Lacey discovered "the reset" much earlier. And I want to know what the hell really happened on that day.
 

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Well it doesn`t matter to me too. I have my opinion on Lacey and it includes all possible stupid shit she may have done.
But I actually think that Lacey actually never went behind MC`s back and outright cheated on him. Damian (also known as Bastian) doesn't count because it was in the open and planned.

About Alter Ego theory.

I have re read messaging between MC and TM looking for clues that its pre recorded series of massages or something like that, but didn't find any. But TM seem to react in real time.

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Heh no need to be sorry. That is what I thought too :) Yeah and she WAS getting railed at the time when MC was in a crisis. What a dogshit. But I have already made my peace with it.
Yeah it's grim but it is what it is haha

But I'm still convinced that the only way Lacey will ever understand the MC's jealousy and all the other feelings that he struggles with

is that she is going to have to experience her own version of that , which means in theory the MC will likely need to lean into to her fears of him leaving her

As she seems to be a visual learner , as we all know you can have all the conversations you want with Lacey but the bulk of it is going in ear and out the other

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If you replace take over the world to try and convince the MC to get over his jealousy this is Mia and Lacey :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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I agree with what you are saying. We only disagree on one thing. I believe Lacey discovered "the reset" much earlier. And I want to know what the hell really happened on that day.
Help me understand, are you saying Lacey is lying whe she says "something happened today"?

Or did I miss something?
 

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Help me understand, are you saying Lacey is lying whe she says "something happened today"?

Or did I miss something?
In short, yes. Beautiful lie.
Ok, maybe its just paranoia.
I have two options.
1. That something is the Anna`s call that reminded her of what she truly wants. That`s it. No sudden revelations. I didn`t think thats the case until Isaac said that one call is all it took for Lacey to kick him out.
Here
IS "And she threw my ass out."
IS "One phone call."
IS "Sayin' that some boy she had a thing for needed her."
IS "So, I was thrown to the curb."

Implying that before the call everything was as usual. That`s why I want to hear full recount of that day from His POV.
Actually Mia confirms that Isaac got kicked out after the call.
Here:

M "Then some girl called. Our dear Anna of course."
M "Said she wanted to talk to Lacey."
M "I handed Lacey her phone."
M "She hadn't even looked at it for two or three weeks."
M "And the next thing I knew, Isaac was gone."
M "Kicked out."
M "And Lacey somehow got herself together."

2. Something did happen, and I have nothing concrete on what it might have been. But it is not what she said.

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See ? Witness testimony don't mesh with Lacey`s words that something happened and she decided to put herself together and LATER Anna called her. All points to that she decided to change after Anna`s call.
 
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Just going through Act 1.
Mia said the photoshoot with Isaac lasted 3 days, which I assume includes the final picture of Lacey crying and the “reset” but the fling itself lasted for three weeks
 
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