VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

Lacey definitely loves him to an unhealthy extent, but one thing that we could speculate comes from the other side lines of dialogue.

L "I don't really know how to make all of you understand this."
L "There's this other side to me."
L "Maybe Mia gets it? But maybe not."
L "I'm not happy or proud of it."
L "And it's not... healthy."
L "I've got so much trauma, so much pain."
L "And the only thing that kept it in check was [MCFirst]."

Important to note the last line I left? Whatever this other side is....it existed long before she went to college and became a sex toy. So how related to sex do we actually really think it is?

Wow, all this confuses me even more

Welcome to Lacey's world lol

I mainly pay attention to her actions. And as you are saying yourself, they paint somewhat of a different picture.

100% this. Words are cheap and we know she lie straight to his face.

She also wasn’t acting like the other times we’ve seen her under the influence. Her personality had completely shifted, being cold and stand-offish, and definitely not caring about MC and thinking of him as a roommate at best

Yeah...and she took K the 'night before'....there's no way that was the effect of the drug, especially after being asleep for hours. I do wonder if Anna or the Pimp got wind of a (potential) tennis 'date' and both decided to rush over to stop her?

do we have confirmation everything in the audio is real Lacey's voice?

Christine states that some of it 'may' be her actual voice interlaced with the AI reproduction.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Agreed on this. I was trying to post anything that I thought was possible, and I think that she might have mentioned her "Love Experiment" which is why I added this. The NTR villains would have added it in bad context to mess with MC's mind



As Deviant said, we know (or at least have strong evidence to believe) they used AI to generate bits and pieces of dialogue to it, so we know she didn't say everything that was in the deepfake. However, Lacey confirms that she remembers saying "some of those things", not all of them. I think it's one of the reasons she's so confused because she can recall parts, but the contexts don't align with her memory. I was just trying to guess at what "some of those things" were



I kind of liked it being present. However, when I read a story, I don't care too much if it matches reality so long as it's internally consistent. Lacey lies a lot, especially about college. However, she also says she would drink during those parties too. Like, she was both drunk and high on ketamine, which should impact memory even more. My guess is that she has a much stronger memory of the before and aftermath of those slutty nights, but the details in the middle during the act are pretty fuzzy. To me, it seems consistent that her memory is a blur where she remembers bits and pieces vividly, but completely misses other parts. Her memory of the Damian scene and Barty interview feel very similar where she remembers specific things, but her memory isn't strong enough for her to know that she didn't do the things in the video.

For the damage, she claims that she was doing fine until her "recent relapse" (either barty interview or tennis depending on which you think came first), meaning that in her opinion, she's only this gullible as a short term side effect of the drug

Now, I do hope that the Ketamine storyline has mostly run its course. I'm fine if the professor allows asshole decisions by MC to get her to do Ketamine and more NTR or whatever, but my interest in the story is on Lacey and MC repairing their relationship and learning how to live with their trauma, so I really hope that Lacey is pretty much done with all that (with a possible exception that she takes Ketamine in front of MC as a "I want you to claim every side of me. Drunk Lacey, High Lacey, other side Lacey, etc").

I don’t think she talked to barty about the love experiment

Based on the timeline I provided, we should assume that the Barty interview predated the practical joke morning, as she needed to find her stash first.

DeviantFun might correct me, but I don’t think they were discussion sharing, open relationship or love experiment at that point

Which leads me to believe, that they (big bad) both have a way of listening in and someone providing them intel

Another aspect is that the script and AI voice and deepfake were created more recently however. 1 for referencing the love experiment, 2 due to referencing barty coming round the last time drunk planing to get a blowjob from Lacey

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Lacey definitely loves him to an unhealthy extent, but one thing that we could speculate comes from the other side lines of dialogue.

L "I don't really know how to make all of you understand this."
L "There's this other side to me."
L "Maybe Mia gets it? But maybe not."
L "I'm not happy or proud of it."
L "And it's not... healthy."
L "I've got so much trauma, so much pain."
L "And the only thing that kept it in check was [MCFirst]."

Important to note the last line I left? Whatever this other side is....it existed long before she went to college and became a sex toy. So how related to sex do we actually really think it is?
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It sounds like it could be a general hatred towards men , after everything she has been put through with her dad , Jared and just any other men that have fucked her or try'd too , it could be that she thinks all men are just the same sort of thing

Now I would say she doesn't think that of the MC but it could be that as that hatred of men grows the MC is slowly being dragged into that by the sheer default of just being male

Also when she mentions that Mia might understand it would fit with her hatred of men but the maybe part of it could be because Mia is softening up and accepts the MC so her hatred is subsiding

 

[winterwolf200]

Important to note the last line I left? Whatever this other side is....it existed long before she went to college and became a sex toy. So how related to sex do we actually really think it is?

Well...she was having sex and being a ...sex toy... long before she went to college.

 

[DeviantFun]

Lacey definitely loves him to an unhealthy extent, but one thing that we could speculate comes from the other side lines of dialogue.

L "I don't really know how to make all of you understand this."
L "There's this other side to me."
L "Maybe Mia gets it? But maybe not."
L "I'm not happy or proud of it."
L "And it's not... healthy."
L "I've got so much trauma, so much pain."
L "And the only thing that kept it in check was [MCFirst]."


Imp[ortant to note the last line I left? Whatever this other side is....it existed long before she went to college and became a sex toy. So how related to sex do we actually really think it is?

I also don't think it is related to sex and hopefully it won't be, it has to be something that then makes us understand more why she acted the way she did.

100% this. Words are cheap and we know she lie straight to his face.

Yeah, I am strong supporter of actions before intentions.
But the actions we are pissed off about (Damian & jealousy date) do have nuance in them that need to be understood if we want to get the full picture instead of dismissing Lacey as a lolcow turboslut.

For the whole dress up doll for Jared, even the nuances make her look like shit so I am keeping that out so you can't attack my point easily

Yeah...and she took K the 'night before'....there's no way that was the effect of the drug, especially after being asleep for hours.

Akshually! You can stay weird on K for quite a while (hours) even after the high has gone and probably she even used multiple times during the night to stay in the high.

DeviantFun might correct me, but I don’t think they were discussion sharing, open relationship or love experiment at that point

Which leads me to believe, that they (big bad) both have a way of listening in and someone providing them intel

No you are absolutely right, I pointed out the same thing myself in a post, same as the listening OR there is someone that is in the inner circle that is providing information, unwillingly as usual.

Imp[ortant to note the last line I left? Whatever this other side is....it existed long before she went to college and became a sex toy. So how related to sex do we actually really think it is?

It sounds like it could be a general hatred towards men , after everything she has been put through with her dad , Jared and just any other men that have fucked her or try'd too , it could be that she thinks all men are just the same sort of thing

Now I would say she doesn't think that of the MC but it could be that as that hatred of men grows the MC is slowly being dragged into that by the sheer default of just being male

Also when she mentions that Mia might understand it would fit with her hatred of men but the maybe part of it could be because Mia is softening up and accepts the MC so her hatred is subsiding
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Can't be, she is happy to dance with Will, she is happy to have pals to play tennis.
I know her strong "no men in the friend group" sound like that, but she has no problems having work crushes or flirting with men.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I also don't think it is related to sex and hopefully it won't be, it has to be something that then makes us understand more why she acted the way she did.



Yeah, I am strong supporter of actions before intentions.
But the actions we are pissed off about (Damian & jealousy date) do have nuance in them that need to be understood if we want to get the full picture instead of dismissing Lacey as a lolcow turboslut.

For the whole dress up doll for Jared, even the nuances make her look like shit so I am keeping that out so you can't attack my point easily



Akshually! You can stay weird on K for quite a while (hours) even after the high has gone and probably she even used multiple times during the night to stay in the high.



No you are absolutely right, I pointed out the same thing myself in a post, same as the listening OR there is someone that is in the inner circle that is providing information, unwillingly as usual.




It sounds like it could be a general hatred towards men , after everything she has been put through with her dad , Jared and just any other men that have fucked her or try'd too , it could be that she thinks all men are just the same sort of thing

Now I would say she doesn't think that of the MC but it could be that as that hatred of men grows the MC is slowly being dragged into that by the sheer default of just being male

Also when she mentions that Mia might understand it would fit with her hatred of men but the maybe part of it could be because Mia is softening up and accepts the MC so her hatred is subsiding

Can't be, she is happy to dance with Will, she is happy to have pals to play tennis.
I know her strong "no men in the friend group" sound like that, but she has no problems having work crushes or flirting with men.

So with the hatred of men I mean that because of will , Jared , the tennis incidents, barty etc it could that her hatred has grown to the point where she is starting to lose control over it

So it may have been in a fairly minor stage when she got back with the MC , but the sheer amount of incidents have caused it to grow

 

[Maviarab]

nstead of dismissing Lacey as a lolcow turboslut.

For the whole dress up doll for Jared, even the nuances make her look like shit so I am keeping that out so you can't attack my point easily

OR there is someone that is in the inner circle that is providing information, unwillingly as usual.

Can't be, she is happy to dance with Will, she is happy to have pals to play tennis.
I know her strong "no men in the friend group" sound like that, but she has no problems having work crushes or flirting with men.

This, completely accurate. However, we already know Lacey is a walking tumbleweed of hypocrisy...so, who knows...

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Well...she was having sex and being a ...sex toy... long before she went to college.

She admits her father touched her, but for sex, several times its refered that Stephen with ph was her first. At least twice of them in front of her and she never corrected or denied it.

I know her strong "no men in the friend group"

Thats for making females friends dance to her tune, for males she has other tools.

 

[DeviantFun]

She admits her father touched her, but for sex, several times its refered that Stephen with ph was her first. At least twice of them in front of her and she never corrected or denied it.

Exactly we don't know the extent of the abuse, I am proud of you, you went and checked the source material .
It could be that they don't consider her father as her first because it was forced but it would be a BIG leap.

I wanted to point that out myself but I couldn't bring myself to answer to a comment that associated the term sex toy to an abused child.

Thats for making females friends dance to her tune, for males she has other tools.

Always the debby downer, sure Lacey loves controling what goes around her husband so he is not stolen but for men I think she really does it to keep MC sane and safe.

 

[AL.d]

From all the dialogues we have seen a phrase such as L "I'm trying to think of a way to get him to fuck other girls." is not Lacey.
Especially because that is not what she is trying to do.

Erm, you kinda lost me there. Do you mean she hadn't openly expressed that at the supposed time of the recording? Because otherwise, that's definitely a thing she is been trying to do. And has actually done already during the free pass, to appease the cuck.

Christine states that some of it 'may' be her actual voice interlaced with the AI reproduction.

This "may" pretty much tells us we know fuck all about the video and it could be either incredibly damning or very innocent. I hope this is not yet another thing that gets shoved under the rug, because they are starting to pile up.

 

[Maviarab]

Exactly we don't know the extent of the abuse, I am proud of you, you went and checked the source material .
It could be that they don't consider her father as her first because it was forced but it would be a BIG leap.

I wanted to point that out myself but I couldn't bring myself to answer to a comment that associated the term sex toy to an abused child.

This

Erm, you kinda lost me there. Do you mean she hadn't openly expressed that at the supposed time of the recording? Because otherwise, that's definitely a thing she is been trying to do. And has actually done already during the free pass, to appease the cuck.

This "may" pretty much tells us we know fuck all about the video and it could be either incredibly damning or very innocent. I hope this is not yet another thing that gets shoved under the rug, because they are starting to pile up.

I read it differently. If during the course of the 'interview', Lacey says a word 25 times (as an example), why reproduce that word? You have it clear as day, just splice that into your AI recording.

I think that's how Christine meant it. We also don't know what these questions were, but they were obviously designed to get a very broad range of vocabularly out of her and to specifically get to her to answer things in a way they could use the entire sentence to cut down on Ai reproduction.

So naturally, in the course of Christine watching, she could not say definitively 100% whether it's her real voice or not at times, but assumed some of it would be just mashed together with the fake (which if I was doing something similar, even for a movie, is how I and how Hollywood does it). However, after all that, Chris also proves the audio is out of sync and does not match, thus I think proving without any doubt (with the flickering images), none of it is real, other than perhaps some of Lacey's recorded answers to questions she didn't know why she was answering.

 

[DeviantFun]

Erm, you kinda lost me there. Do you mean she hadn't openly expressed that at the supposed time of the recording? Because otherwise, that's definitely a thing she is been trying to do. And has actually done already during the free pass, to appease the cuck.

It is not how Lacey talks about the topic normally and it is not her final objective, she wants him to have relationships and feel loved, if there is sex it would worry her but she is fine with it as atonement (it was for college, now for a million other things).

The free pass was a matter of "equality" (fuck you Lacey) and pushing him to discover what sex meant to him when not with her.

This "may" pretty much tells us we know fuck all about the video and it could be either incredibly damning or very innocent. I hope this is not yet another thing that gets shoved under the rug, because they are starting to pile up.

exactly we know fuck all, I am pretty pissed on how many things get that treatment, while stuff which was well over and done gets the spotlight.

I read it differently. If during the course of the 'interview', Lacey says a word 25 times (as an example), why reproduce that word? You have it clear as day, just splice that into your AI recording.

I think that's how Christine meant it. We also don't know what these questions were, but they were obviously designed to get a very broad range of vocabularly out of her and to specifically get to her to answer things in a way they could use the entire sentence to cut down on Ai reproduction.

So naturally, in the cortse of Christine watching, shecould not say 100% whether it's her real voice or not, but assumed some of it would be just mashed together with the fake (which if I was doing something similar, even for a movie, is how I and how Hollywood does it).

We know that the questions were hurtful and Barty kept on calling her little bitch and other hurtful things.
I doubt the whole thing was taken in context of what she was meaning at the time.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I am proud of you, you went and checked the source material .
It could be that they don't consider her father as her first because it was forced but it would be a BIG leap.

Thats playing semantics, she does that a lot but it would be quite a big stretch..., then again she choose Damian because she didnt "know" him. Through she knew his name and that worked in the same company with her. So fifty-fifty?

I have the Act 1 quite refreshed due the list.

Always the debby downer, sure Lacey loves controling what goes around her husband so he is not stolen but for men I think she really does it to keep MC sane and safe.

Wasent refering to the husband. More of a way to control other females and put herself at the top of the social piramide. Thats why the crew created a separated group.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

She admits her father touched her, but for sex, several times its refered that Stephen with ph was her first. At least twice of them in front of her and she never corrected or denied it.



Thats for making females friends dance to her tune, for males she has other tools.

Stephen with ph could of been her first consensual partner

 

[DeviantFun]

Wasent refering to the husband. More of a way to control other females and put herself at the top of the social piramide. Thats why the crew created a separated group.

I am out of reactions once again, but yeah this is absolutely true.
Plus, the crew wants to feel free to discuss fucking MC without having to be careful around Lacey.

Stephen with ph could of been her first consensual partner

Yeah, I said that too, but come on don't you think that if her first time was with her father it would have been a HUGE plot point?

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I am out of reactions once again, but yeah this is absolutely true.
Plus, the crew wants to feel free to discuss fucking MC without having to be careful around Lacey.



Yeah, I said that too, but come on don't you think that if her first time was with her father it would have been a HUGE plot point?

I would agree but I would say there's a lot about her abuse that we don't know and that we have likely only had the tip of the iceberg

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I would agree but I would say there's a lot about her abuse that we don't know and that we have likely only had the tip of the iceberg

Yeah but going in detail about child sex abuse is a recipe for disaster, at most we will have a line or two more about what happened, dont expect especifics even if vaguely referenced.

In the entire act 1 the only sex reference with the father is "just" touching. Again only the sex part is skimmed with good reasons, others parts of the abuse are comented more openly

 

[AL.d]

It is not how Lacey talks about the topic normally and it is not her final objective, she wants him to have relationships and feel loved, if there is sex it would worry her but she is fine with it as atonement (it was for college, now for a million other things).

The free pass was a matter of "equality" (fuck you Lacey) and pushing him to discover what sex meant to him when not with her.



exactly we know fuck all, I am pretty pissed on how many things get that treatment, while stuff which was well over and done gets the spotlight.




We know that the questions were hurtful and Barty kept on calling her little bitch and other hurtful things.
I doubt the whole thing was taken in context of what she was meaning at the time.

Ah, so you mean the phrasing. Yes, but that could have been the drug. If the line was even real, which we don't know.

And no, the whole positive spiel about "new experiences" and "giving him what he missed" is all gaslighting bs in order to sell it. The free pass was because she was very aware of how tough of a pill what she was about to shove down his throat was. About as tough as what she got shoved down her throat by Damian. And wanted him to have some sweet juice handy to help swallowing it. Remember, she actually sees that as treatment.

And the first step in making him disassociate sex from intimacy, which is her grand plan to ensure they stay together, with her shit not being a risk factor anymore.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

I am out of reactions once again, but yeah this is absolutely true.
Plus, the crew wants to feel free to discuss fucking MC without having to be careful around Lacey.



Yeah, I said that too, but come on don't you think that if her first time was with her father it would have been a HUGE plot point?

Might still become a huge plotpoint

 

[Maviarab]

I am out of reactions once again, but yeah this is absolutely true.
Plus, the crew wants to feel free to discuss fucking MC without having to be careful around Lacey.



Yeah, I said that too, but come on don't you think that if her first time was with her father it would have been a HUGE plot point?

I would agree but I would say there's a lot about her abuse that we don't know and that we have likely only had the tip of the iceberg

And wanted him to have some sweet juice handy to help swallowing it. Remember, she actually sees that as treatment.

And the first step in making him disassociate sex from intimacy, which is her grand plan to ensure they stay together, with her shit not being a risk factor anymore.

This, this, this and this...as also out of reactions. Stop posting good comments so damn much lmao.