VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[anongamer1983]

Look, this is what Lacey says to MC when he's at the cliffs and Anna manages to get in contact with Lacey:
L "But something happened today."
L "Something that helped wake me up from the delirium I've been in."
L "And apparently it needed to happen today,"
L "so that I could talk to you right now."

This is what Lacey says when explaining the tears in the Isaac pics:

L "The second reason for tears was because I had achieved what I thought was impossible."
L "I had disassociated intimacy from my abuse."
L "I could be intimate and not think of my father."
L "All I could think of in that last picture was I could finally come home to you."
L "Later that day Anna called me about your suicide attempt."
L "I realized I hadn't looked at my phone in over two weeks."
L "So, I never saw your desperate texts until it was too late."
L "I still haven't forgiven myself for not being there for you."
L "The reason I had to hang up was because I was going through ketamine and alcohol withdrawal."
L "I was throwing up or dry heaving every ten minutes or so."
L "That time in my life is second only in horror to when I was actually being abused."
L "The difference is that I was the one abusing myself."

So the events are concurrent Anna's call + Pain realization.

Granted the line about being second only in horror compared to what she was being abused is in contrast with the line:
L "Because living for four years without you was... the worst thing that's ever happened to me."
MC "Well, besides the abuse of course."
L "That isn't what I said."
L "I said, it was the worst thing that has ever happened to me."

You see Lacey dear, you should never lie or be ambiguos with people with good memory.
As soon as I saw that in act 2 my ears started ringing and I went to check if I was being wrong or not, not surprisingly, I was right .



I think at some point, very early, she stopped experimenting for the sake of MC and just went to the please the Pimp + experiment for the sake of it.
She would also recount what she liked and not liked to her Pimp, not in terms of linking to abuse or not.

Actually, I think she enjoyed the second time she had sex quite a bit, to the point where she said: well why not?
Knowing that she was hurting MC but also choosing her instant gratification.

This is half speculation half canon btw, Lacey always refuses to answer to these questions with cop outs like: I don't have an answer to that, I did what I did because I did it.

Which is obviously bullcrap, when I think about my past I know exactly why I did what I did and probably why she did what she did, which are pretty similar imo:
I was stupid, selfish, always looking for instant gratification, chasing stupid thrills, I simply did not care who I was hurting, feeling good for a minute or an hour or a night was more important than whatever happiness I could ever have in the long run, fucking was more important to me than respecting someone that loved me (and I did love back, but I don't get to say that anymore).

See? it is that simple, take accountability and realize that some stuff you've done will forever burn some bridges, no matter what you do.



Thanks, it is pretty rough but I am glad people find it useful, I am already at work on ACT2, luckily Act2 is shorter and has a pretty defined timeline so it will also be easier to compile and write.
At some point I would like to go back and timeline Act 1 as well, but that is a bit more work than I expected, time skips are abundant.

As being ready for tomorrow morning...I can only say: maybe
The day after tomorrow might be a more reasonable timeline.

To be fair, "Second only in horror to" implies that it's worse in every way except "in horror". Child abuse certainly is a bigger "horror" than an adult whoring themselves out or doing drugs. Maybe Lacey is lying, but I think she's being honest. I think she does consider those 4 years the worst thing that's ever happened to her. Maybe she didn't feel that way while they were happening, but similar to how addicts don't always hate it in the moment, I think later she looks back at it and hates it/feels disgusted with herself.

If I had to guess, I think the reason she considers it "the worst" is because she now fully recognizes and sees how bad it hurt MC, not just herself.

 

[DeviantFun]

To be fair, "Second only in horror to" implies that it's worse in every way except "in horror". Child abuse certainly is a bigger "horror" than an adult whoring themselves out or doing drugs. Maybe Lacey is lying, but I think she's being honest. I think she does consider those 4 years the worst thing that's ever happened to her. Maybe she didn't feel that way while they were happening, but similar to how addicts don't always hate it in the moment, I think later she looks back at it and hates it/feels disgusted with herself.

If I had to guess, I think the reason she considers it "the worst" is because she now fully recognizes and sees how bad it hurt MC, not just herself.

Yeah I left her a bit of leeway when I mentioned that she was being ambiguos, I can also see them as the worst thing, mainly for two reasons:

1) it was self inflicted
2) it removed any chance of *true* happiness with the man she loves

The second one includes what you said.

 

[redoubt27]

To be fair, "Second only in horror to" implies that it's worse in every way except "in horror". Child abuse certainly is a bigger "horror" than an adult whoring themselves out or doing drugs. Maybe Lacey is lying, but I think she's being honest. I think she does consider those 4 years the worst thing that's ever happened to her. Maybe she didn't feel that way while they were happening, but similar to how addicts don't always hate it in the moment, I think later she looks back at it and hates it/feels disgusted with herself.

If I had to guess, I think the reason she considers it "the worst" is because she now fully recognizes and sees how bad it hurt MC, not just herself.

Yes. She's saying being without the MC, in hindsight, is the worst thing to happen to her, including both sets of abuse...
The MC is referring back to what (about the abuse) she previously said, much earlier.
Lacey then says, that's not what I said (now). I said it (being without the MC) is the worst thing to happen to me.
She's telling the MC, that's not what I said this time; she left it out for a reason. She's updating her previous "rankings" of worst things to happen to her.

At least that's the way I read it...

 

[AL.d]

Maybe it's just me, but so far the slut path looks more manipulative than no fun. In no fun he mostly gives straight forward responses you would expect in a situation.

Also a bit weird that if you refuse to fetishize her shenanigans, which is kinda manipulative in itself, you get the path that labels MC a manipulator. You'd think not wanting to make BDSM and cuck games out of horrible marital behavior, is the opposite of manipulative.

 

[mlodyyychlopak]

By popular demand I compiled the choices and branching, only for Act 1 for now, give me some time for act 2, I sadly have a platform to run to earn a living.

ACT 1
List of game choices:

1) Sex with Lacey
- cum on breasts / no change
- cum in mouth / no change
- cum on face / no change

2) See jeanette thoughts
- Y / no change
- N / no change

3) Do you feel disgusted by Lacey? / path branching impacts several events
- You don't disgust me, but your past does haunt me / PUNISH route
- Sometimes when I look at you it hurts and the jealousy won't go away / SLUT+BIMBO route
- Maybe you do disgust me a little, but I can't help these feelings / NO FUN route / GG - 5

Both in PUNISH and SLUT you can choose a nickname for yourself between several choices.
NO FUN will skip a lot of additional content.

3.1) IF PUNISH - MC provoked by Lacey and hits her

IF SLUT - MC will simp for Lacey

IF NO FUN - MC will think about manipulating Lacey

3.2) After meeting Lorenzo at the club

IF PUNISH - MC feeds Lacey oral fixation and thinks he's cool since he "punished" her

IF SLUT - Lacey fists her ass + MC high fives her, inside her ass (but...red bra night? what? how?)

IF NO FUN - MC says that Lacey is asking a lot when she wants to mend bridges with him

4) Meeting Jeanette in the office as she is wearing a dress
- Compliment Jeanette / Jeanette LOVE + 5
- Don't compliment / no change

4.1) Comment on Jeanette smile
- You don't look like an idiot when you smile / Jeanette LOVE + 5
- Well I hope the event goes by quickly for you / no change

4.2) IF JEANETTE LOVE == 10 Jeanette asks you to dinner
- I'd love to / Jeanette LOVE + 5 / JEANETTE DATE True
- Maybe another time

IF JEANETTE LOVE == 5 Jeanette asks you to lunch / JEANETTE LUNCH True

IF JEANETTE LOVE == 00 Jeanette leaves

This outcome has a small impact on dialogue when you inform Lacey of the lunch/dinner plans

5) MC thinks about his jealousy
IF PUNISH
"It's probably why I want to roleplay punishing Lacey."
"It gives the same sense of feeling powerful."

IF SLUT
"The whole having Lacey act like a slut for me is similar."
"I feel like I have some kind of control over what's happening around me."

IF NO FUN
"Yeah, it's about finding something that makes you feel powerful."
"If you can find that, then you aren't as easy to hurt."

6) Lacey talks about her fucking cheating plans
IF PUNISH
"I still want you to keep punishing me."

IF SLUT
"I still want you to slut me up."

IF NO FUN
"I still want you to try and work through your feelings."

7) Free pass time with Christine?
- Tell Christine no / no change
- Let it happen / CHRISTINE LOVE + 10 / MC+Christine foreplay + 1

7.1) IF MC ACCEPTS
- Thank you Christine, I mean it, thank you / CHRISTINE LOVE + 5
- Stay silent

7.2) IF CHRISTINE LOVE > 10
MC wonders if it was a mistake or not

8) Phone sex with Lacey after she fucked Damian
- I'm feeling uneasy and want you to help me feel better / no change
Lacey focuses on the fact that MC looking at her makes her cum
- Tell me about having sex with Damian (gentle to MC's ego) / no change
Lacey belittles Damian performance focuses on MC looking at her, calls herself a whore wife, MC admits he gets excited
- Tell me about having sex with Damian (a bit rougher to MC's ego) / no change
Lacey praises Damian performance focuses on MC looking at her, calls herself a whore wife, MC admits he gets excited
Lacey tells MC that she is lying to roleplay to his requests

8.1) Free pass time with Mia?
- Well, duh, show Mia the goods / MIA LOVE + 10 / MC+Mia foreplay + 1
- Nah, not right now / no change but your self respect as a person should rise dramatically, Mia complains

9) MC wonders about his jealousy

IF MC+Christine Foreplay or MC+Mia Foreplay > 0
I've messed around with another woman
But still can't bring myself to have actual sex with someone other than Lacey

IF MC+Christine Foreplay or MC+Mia Foreplay = 0
I've had two women offer to mess around with me and I refused them both
And I won't seem to let myself have sex with someone other than Lacey

10) MC suspects that Mia is involved in the people showing up at his home

IF MC+Mia Foreplay >= 1
Mia talks about loving MC
"Because I love you too much to ever hurt you"

IF MC+Mia Foreplay < 1
Mia says she cares too much about MC and Lacey to do that

11) Free pass time with Anna

- Give Anna what she's been desperately waiting for / ANNA LOVE + 10 / MC+Anna Foreplay = 1 / MC+Anna sex = 1

This is a cut off choice from a different path, it was supposed to happen when the free pass was different and you could say Anna no.

12) MC wonders how to deal with Christine betrayal

IF MC+Christine Foreplay >= 1
There's a good chance that Christine will use the blowjob she gave me as a weapon.
She could probably get me fired with little to no effort.

ELSE
There's a good chance that Christine could find a way to try and get me fired.

13) PARTY AT MC HOUSE

Jamie as LI? (gay - feminization - possible bimbofication?)

- Give Jamie a sincere compliment / JAMIE LOVER = True

- Be nice, but keep him at a distance / Jamie removed from LIs

13.1 Christine wants to get the footage from the quiet room

IF MC+Christine Foreplay >= 1
Christine mentions having MC dick in her mouth and that there could be footage of it

ELSE
Christine mentions MC having no shirt on while receiving the massage

13.2) MC discusses the situation of the footage with Pimp and Anna

IF MC+Christine foreplay >= 1:
Mia: if she didn't give you that blowjob

ELSE
Mia: if she didn't give you that shirtless massage

13.3) End of the conversation about Christine with Mia and Anna

IF MC+Mia foreplay >= 1:
Mia: I love you too guapo

ELSE
Mia: Meh, you're alright

13.4) Pimp and Anna talk about people complimenting MC

IF JAMIE LOVER = True
Mia says Jamie wants MC babies

ELSE
Jamie is not mentioned

14) Veronica asks if you like her breasts via message

- They're beautiful / VERONICA_love += 10 / MC+Veronica foreplay + 1

- Let's be careful / no change

14.1) MC reflects on his messages with Veronica

IF MC+Veronica foreplay >= 1
Mc thinks the relationship is getting intense and worries that if left alone with her they would fuck

ELSE
MC thinks Veronica is getting attached to him, still worried to spend time alone with her

15) Christine gets caught and she discusses fertility with MC

IF MC+Christine foreplay >= 1
C: Well, after witnessing how much sperm you produce...
C: I'm thinking you're pretty damn fertile.
ELSE
C: Statistically you are.
C: You're young... virile... so damn virile.
MC: Jeez Christine.
C: Sorry.

16) Anna and Christine babysit MC after he disappeared and fgot blackout drunk

IF MC+Christine foreplay >= 1
Christine tells Anna about the blowjob
ELSE
Christine tells Anna they didn't do anything

16.1) MC "wins" against Jared, Anna leaves Christine and MC alone the next morning

IF MC+Christine foreplay >= 1
C: I didn't hear you complaining when I had your monster cock in my mouth

ELSE
C: You weren't complaining about my height when I gave you that nice back massage

17) Lacey is back and has ideas

IF PUNISH OR SLUT == True
Lacey is tone deaf to MC state of mind, wants to do something special for him, MC realizes nothing is special with her and sees her fucking Damian

17.1) Pimp brings some Lacey stuff from college to MC home

IF SLUT = True
MC is pissed but gets over it, Lacey checks of her old stuff is there and wonders if she understood what MC wants from her.

IF PUNISH = True
MC is pissed but gets over it, Lacey checks if the stuff she bought with Mia and Anna at the mall is there and hopes MC will like it.

17.1) After the promotion news (this could be a separate entry but it is tied to 17 so I put it here)

IF NO FUN = True
MC and Lacey watch TV and relax

IF PUNISH = True
MC humiliates Lacey while she wears a leather harness

IF SLUT = True

Lacey is unsure if MC will be ok with what she has in mind
A) Tell Lacey you want to go through with her plan / LACEY LOVE + 10

A.1) Own your past and be my party girl
- Have her spice things WAY up
Lacey tells she liked the sex and she was always drenched

- Have her be honest
Lacey tells that sometimes it was nice at the start but at the end she was always hurt

Both choices bring to:
- Tell me you'd do anything for me
- Would you have sex with another girl for me
- Would you let me tie you up and make you watch me fuck another girl
- Would you fuck another man if I told you?

Lacey agrees to all but hesitates with the last one, not wanting to hurt MC and it being hard for her and sad if he only wanted to watch


A.2) Keep things sweet
- Tell me you'd do anything for me
- Would you have sex with another girl for me
- Would you let me tie you up and make you watch me fuck another girl
- Would you fuck another man if I told you?

Lacey agrees to all but hesitates with the last one, not wanting to hurt MC and it being hard for her and sad if he only wanted to watch

B) Thank her for trying, but end tonight early

18) Did you set up a date or a lunch with Jeanette?

IF JEANETTE DATE True
And I owe Jeanette a professional dinner too

IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
And I owe Jeanette a one on one lunch as well

18.1) Convince Jeanette to go through with it (also could be a separate event but it was tied to the above variable so I put it here)

IF JEANETTE DATE True
Does this mean we're not going out for our professional dinner?

IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
Does this mean our lunch date is cancelled?

19) Meeting Jamie at work

IF JAMIE LOVER True
Plan date with Jamie at the museum

ELSE
just chit chat

20) Plan to meet with Jeanette tomorrow

IF JEANETTE DATE True
MC asks Jeanette out for dinner and tell her to wear her dress

IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
MC asks Jeanette out for lunch

21) Lacey admits he fucked up her whole life, MC apologizes, Lacey tries to soothe him and distract him with sex
- Just tell me what to do and feel
Vanilla softdomme
- Tell me more about the remora and the whale shark
"Poetic"
- Soothe my jealous heart
Apologetic dialogue from Lacey
- Be the girl who hurt me, I need to hate you right now
Lacey roleplays and exaggerate her experiences to make herself look like she enjoyed it all
Lacey feels gross after doing that, is it really how you see her?
- It's not how I see you, I promise
Lacey is relieved but doesn't want to roleplay that for a long time
- Sorry, it kind of is how I see you / GG - 10
Lacey is hurt, MC says he is turned on by it.
Lacey doesn't want to roleplay that for a long time

22) Time for dates! You tell Lacey your plans
Here depending on which date you have with Jeanette you will see Anna on either lunch or dinner.
The structure is a bit convoluted, it is used to compose the correct dialogue.

IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
MC "I'm meeting Anna for dinner tonight."
MC "Like you said, since I hung out with Mia, I needed to spend time with Anna too."
IF JEANETTE LUNCH False
MC "I'm meeting Anna for lunch this afternoon."
MC "Like you said, since I hung out with Mia, I needed to spend time with Anna too."
IF JEANETTE DATE True
MC "Then tonight I have my professional dinner with Jeanette."
MC "I mean, I'm her boss now so it might be a little..."
MC "I don't know..."
MC "awkward?"
IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
MC "Then this afternooon I have my lunch with Jeanette."
MC "I mean, I'm her boss now so it might be a little..."
MC "I don't know..."
MC "awkward?"
IF JEANETTE LUNCH False and JEANETTE DATE False
MC "I need to sit down and talk to Jeanette today at work."
MC "Being her boss now has made things a little..."
MC "awkward?"

22.1) organizing the llast details

IF JEANETTE LUNCH True and JEANETTE DATE True
Text message to Jeanette
unavoidable: Text Anna

22.2A) Meet Jeanette for lunch, she will be wearing work clothes
IF JEANETTE LUNCH True
- There's nothing wrong with you Jeanette / JEANETTE LOVER True
- I'm sorry Jeanette / JEANETTE LOVER False / permanently removes Jeanette from LIs


22.2B) Meet Jeanette for dinner, she will be wearing her dress
IF JEANETTE DATE True
- There's nothing wrong with you Jeanette / JEANETTE LOVER True
- I'm sorry Jeanette / JEANETTE LOVER False / permanently removes Jeanette from LIs

23) Lacey prepares the discussion about the Jealousy date and fetishes

IF SLUT True
She mentions this has no impact on her being slutty for MC

IF PUNISH True
She mentions this has no impact on her being punished by MC

24) JEALOUSY DATE

- It's time for the big showdown
Ends the date / jump to 24.2

- Explore my jealousy and feed Lacey's oral fixation, She's so turned on she'll do anything you ask / NTRS Level + 1 / Cuck points + 10000000

24.1) Lacey gave a BJ to Morty
- Now, I think it's time for the big showdown?
Ends the date / jump to 24.2

- Continue to explore my jealousy, she'll still do anything you ask / NTRS Level + 1 / MC ascends to cuck supreme
- Finally, it's done and I need to get my wife
Ends the date / jump to 24.2

24.2) Jealousy date ending

IF NTRS Level = 0
Morty flees the scene, MC and Lacey go home

IF NTRS Level = 1
Morty flees the scene, Lacey waits for MC covered in cum to make him more jealous.
Lacey says that her mental health problems are related to sex.
Lacey realizes her waiting covered in cum backfired, Mc feels grossed out, hurt and confused.
MC asks himself what the fuck he has her do.

IF NTRS Level = 2
Morty flees the scene, Lacey waits for MC covered in cum to make him more jealous.
Lacey says that her mental health problems are related to sex.
Lacey realizes her waiting covered in cum backfired, Mc feels grossed out, hurt and confused.
MC asks himself what the fuck he has her do.

24.3) At home after the date

IF NTRS Level = 0
MC asks if dancing and kissing was what made her happy
Lacey denies and says it was MC attention and jealousy

IF NTRS Level = 1
MC asks if making another man cum in her mouth that made her happy
Lacey denies and says it was MC attention and jealousy

IF NTRS Level = 2
MC asks if making another man cum in her mouth or getting fucked by him that made her happy
Lacey denies and says it was MC attention and jealousy

24.3.1) Dialogue variations to match what happened during the date
IF NTRS Level > 1
MC talks about reclaiming Lacey, like a good cuck would

24.3.2) More dialogue variations, both can be true here
IF NTRS Level >= 1
MC "You were on your knees practically begging for a dick to suck."
MC "You put another man's cock in your mouth and let him cum there."
L "My mouth is yours to control."

IF NTRS Level >= 2
MC "You spread your legs like a useless slut."
MC "You let a man fuck you and cum inside your cunt."
L "I am your cocksleeve to do with as you please."


24.4) After fucking

IF NTRS Level >= 1
L "I brushed my teeth."
L "Used mouth wash."
L "Then brushed my teeth again."
IF NTRS Level >= 2
L "And I promise there are no fingerprints on me."
MC "You, uh, remember that huh?"
L "I do."
L "I think it was the first time I realized I had really and truly fucked up."
L "I mean I knew, but in that moment... I knew."
MC "So, you're completely clean?"
L "I am completely clean my Love."
L "It's like it never happened."

END OF ACT 1

edit: I noticed the indentation gets fucked up, sorry guys I cba to fix it, if you want to see it "pretty" DM me and I'll send you the original file I worked on.
Also, forgive me but I added some....personal commentary to some choices and events, I hope no one finds it too distracting.

Sorry but I seem not to be able to DM you as your profile is protected, could you DM me the more readable version please?

 

[Maviarab]

Lacey always refuses to answer to these questions with cop outs like: I don't have an answer to that, I did what I did because I did it.

Also on this...late on (iirc) in Act2, the MC has questions and Lacey says (I cringed) 'Can we talk about it later, I need to get my thoughts organised' (or words to the effect).

Not sure if this intentional by the dev, but the MC fails to pick up on the fact (us as readers find it easier as we're not going through what he is), that every....single....time....Lacey says this....she lies to him.

 

[anongamer1983]

Also on this...late on (iirc) in Act2, the MC has questions and Lacey says (I cringed) 'Can we talk about it later, I need to get my thoughts organised' (or words to the effect).

Not sure if this intentional by the dev, but the MC fails to pick up on the fact (us as readers find it easier as we're not going through what he is), that every....single....time....Lacey says this....she lies to him.

Assuming this is what you were referring to, then I can totally see why Lacey would need to think about it, even if she weren't talking to MC

MC "I don't want to talk about the past."
MC "This is about the present."
MC "So, don't answer based on where you were."
MC "Answer it based on where you are."
L "Okay, I'll see what I can do."
MC "How do I ask this?"
MC "Umm."
MC "Do you miss taking ketamine?"
L "..."
L "Okay, that got serious pretty fast."
MC "I'm not here to judge you or make you feel guilty."
MC "I just want to understand this part of you better."
L "This is a heavy topic."
L "..."
L "Boy I really wasn't ready to talk about this."
L "I'm a little scared to discuss it with you."
L "I don't know how you'll react."
L "Or how you'll feel about me."
MC "I respect that."
MC "Let's talk about it another time."
MC "Consider the topic dropped for now."
MC "Maybe you could give it some thought and we can talk about it when you're ready."
"Boy that makes the whole Mia discussion that much harder."
L "Thank you for being understanding."
L "It's not that I don't want to talk to you about it."
L "It's just a very complicated topic and I just need to get my thoughts together."

I would totally believe that Lacey would think that this is very nuanced. I think she also hints of why it's nuanced in her dark fantasy. Some part of her does miss it. However, I think it's clear that she wants to be clean of it even if some part of her misses it.

 

[megalol]

I think that the Monster is MC second (or maybe even third) personality and conversation goes inside his own head but not in phone. U ask me then how the Monster know beforehead about all that would gonna happen? Answer is easy - first some actions happens when MC in "monster mode" ON (he even sometimes calls himself so), then it plays as phone conversation in his head after he went to "monster mode" OFF.

 

[DeviantFun]

Maybe it's just me, but so far the slut path looks more manipulative than no fun. In no fun he mostly gives straight forward responses you would expect in a situation.

Also a bit weird that if you refuse to fetishize her shenanigans, which is kinda manipulative in itself, you get the path that labels MC a manipulator. You'd think not wanting to make BDSM and cuck games out of horrible marital behavior, is the opposite of manipulative.

Act 1 slut path is actually helpful to dive into more of her past, obviously there is a heavy hint of "reclaiming", which never works and is a silly concept by itself, however some dialogues really dive into Lacey's past (honest for context and exaggerated to see her reaction).
So I often recommend it as a first playthrough so you can get a better idea and bimbofication is in my top 10 fetish list.

Act 2 is...just weak, none of the options actually dive much into anything, it is just a silly roleplay.
I can see that it should have been this "let's roleplay our prom since the real one failed" moment, but I can't see it.

The only thing I see is that the Pimp chose the name "The Prom Night" and Lacey was turbo fine with it.
It is a disgusting concept by itself, since we know 99.99% that the Pimp knew exactly how prom went for Lacey and MC since she always talked about him.

Another private memory and private moment stripped away from their relationship and thrown in the toilet by the pimp.
We wouldn't want them to actually have anything special and intimate, wouldn't we?

The author added a "Lets not do this" in Act 1 for the silver slut (again the Pimp was very subtle in her intentions towards Lacey) but not for this?

I find it disgusting, but if I try to immerse myself in MC, I would have probably blown a fuse, instead we get nothing.

I think that the Monster is MC second (or maybe even third) personality and conversation goes inside his own head but not in phone. U ask me then how the Monster know beforehead about all that would gonna happen? Answer is easy - first some actions happens when MC in "monster mode" ON (he even sometimes calls himself so), then it plays as phone conversation in his head after he went to "monster mode" OFF.

this is the theory I want to believe in, but it doesn't match the fact that the monster doesn't know how a specific file will be delivered and when, if it was MC split personality he should have seen the file already and know where it is, else how does he know about the file?

PSA: I am at the King Weekend, this is a good moment to take a break, because it is literally a minefield of choices and interactions.

 

[Sayora]

Assuming this is what you were referring to, then I can totally see why Lacey would need to think about it, even if she weren't talking to MC

MC "I don't want to talk about the past."
MC "This is about the present."
MC "So, don't answer based on where you were."
MC "Answer it based on where you are."
L "Okay, I'll see what I can do."
MC "How do I ask this?"
MC "Umm."
MC "Do you miss taking ketamine?"
L "..."
L "Okay, that got serious pretty fast."
MC "I'm not here to judge you or make you feel guilty."
MC "I just want to understand this part of you better."
L "This is a heavy topic."
L "..."
L "Boy I really wasn't ready to talk about this."
L "I'm a little scared to discuss it with you."
L "I don't know how you'll react."
L "Or how you'll feel about me."
MC "I respect that."
MC "Let's talk about it another time."
MC "Consider the topic dropped for now."
MC "Maybe you could give it some thought and we can talk about it when you're ready."
"Boy that makes the whole Mia discussion that much harder."
L "Thank you for being understanding."
L "It's not that I don't want to talk to you about it."
L "It's just a very complicated topic and I just need to get my thoughts together."

I would totally believe that Lacey would think that this is very nuanced. I think she also hints of why it's nuanced in her dark fantasy. Some part of her does miss it. However, I think it's clear that she wants to be clean of it even if some part of her misses it.

this is not a conspiracy, you are following the wrong direction

she’s not lying, she’s just afraid to tell the truth that she hasn’t let go yet and assessing the consequences of such a step
Is a completely reasonable reaction

 

[Fmedic]

So, wondering if the video really was a deep fake. Will states "the blond in processing still needs money for college so we can use her again" at the end of ACT II while watching them in the hot tub, also stated by Barty and Will at the end, they both mentioned deep fakes. So, I believe the video is a deep fake.

I had to create a new profile due to F95 not accepting my old one for some reason.

ANYWAY: I would love to see a poll on if you were MC and knowing the back story, would you still be with Lacey and when was your breaking point if you couldn't stay with her. Second Poll: If you left Lacey, who would you want to be with.

Just a curiosity

I have gone numb to the story, i can't call it a game

I have an alternative story thought that would still line up with L&J plots but would help us that are not Cucks or into NTR

 

[Maviarab]

I would totally believe that Lacey would think that this is very nuanced. I think she also hints of why it's nuanced in her dark fantasy. Some part of her does miss it. However, I think it's clear that she wants to be clean of it even if some part of her misses it.

this is not a conspiracy, you are following the wrong direction

she’s not lying, she’s just afraid to tell the truth that she hasn’t let go yet and assessing the consequences of such a step
Is a completely reasonable reaction

You mean she needs to get her facts/story straight in her head and remember what she has already told/not told the MC and to give him information while misleading and being economical with the real truth.

if you were MC and knowing the back story, would you still be with Lacey

Nope.

and when was your breaking point

Jesus...take your damn pick lol.

If you left Lacey, who would you want to be with.

Kelly. Would have been Anna before the Ket in the purse fiasco. V before her betrayal. Kelly is currently the only girl (that we are aware of) that has not lied to, fucked over, manipulated the MC.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Nope.

Jesus...take your damn pick lol.

Kelly. Would have been Anna before the Ket in the purse fiasco. V before her betrayal. Kelly is currently the only girl (that we are aware of) that has not lied to, fucked over, manipulated the MC.

And Dianne

 

[Sayora]

You mean she needs to get her facts/story straight in her head and remember what she has already told/not told the MC and to give him information while misleading and being economical with the real truth.

tell the truth causing minimal damage to her and to MC

 

[Diosvincenccio]

ANYWAY: I would love to see a poll on if you were MC and knowing the back story, would you still be with Lacey and when was your breaking point if you couldn't stay with her. Second Poll: If you left Lacey, who would you want to be with.

Before the damian thing, not for what she does, just for the manipulation into make that happen.

And i would pick Anna, she endured and sacrificed a lot, she would have to appologice for the K thing, through. If not, Yue (Love the character design, but would feel bad for Bradley...well, not that bad. Nothing that a beer and a card saying "Sorry Bro, fo stealing ya girl" wont fix) or Kelly if wanted a blank new relationship.

 

[Dragonlight]

Look, this is what Lacey says to MC when he's at the cliffs and Anna manages to get in contact with Lacey:
L "But something happened today."
L "Something that helped wake me up from the delirium I've been in."
L "And apparently it needed to happen today,"
L "so that I could talk to you right now."

This is what Lacey says when explaining the tears in the Isaac pics:

L "The second reason for tears was because I had achieved what I thought was impossible."
L "I had disassociated intimacy from my abuse."
L "I could be intimate and not think of my father."
L "All I could think of in that last picture was I could finally come home to you."
L "Later that day Anna called me about your suicide attempt."
L "I realized I hadn't looked at my phone in over two weeks."
L "So, I never saw your desperate texts until it was too late."
L "I still haven't forgiven myself for not being there for you."
L "The reason I had to hang up was because I was going through ketamine and alcohol withdrawal."
L "I was throwing up or dry heaving every ten minutes or so."
L "That time in my life is second only in horror to when I was actually being abused."
L "The difference is that I was the one abusing myself."

So the events are concurrent Anna's call + Pain realization.

OK, I remember that. It is from early in Act 1, so anything Lacey says about her past at this point I cannot take at face value. Isaac in Act 2 said that Lacey kicked him after call from Anna, and when she talks with MC she already in withdrawal ? Something doesn't add up. Unless we get some perspective on that day from different source I will have my doubts. The only possible source is Isaac, who was with her at that day. As MC and Isaac are talking now maybe we will get to hear his perspective.

 

[rhune]

ANYWAY: I would love to see a poll on if you were MC and knowing the back story, would you still be with Lacey and when was your breaking point if you couldn't stay with her. Second Poll: If you left Lacey, who would you want to be with.

Just a curiosity

Honestly, if I were the MC in Love & Jealousy, there wouldn’t even be a story. The second Lacey ghosted me for weeks? Boom — blocked, deleted, therapy booked, and I’d be halfway across the country dating someone who doesn’t mix trauma, ketamine, and cum as a love language and thinks “jealousy” is a perfume lol. No suicide attempts, no emotional chaos — just a 10-minute intro and credits roll.

 

[Fmedic]

Thanks for the replies, I also would not be with her (Lacey), poor excuse for a wife let alone a mother. I don't think a good wife wants to be treated like a slut or their slut night or whatever it is called just to remind her of her college days. Sure have fun in the bedroom but to have a wine bottle shoved in her ass of the giant dildo.

I tried, I felt bad for her and I hung out till the Damian thing. I would have left my phone on the table and went and got Kelly and moved to the other location of the Company 2000 miles away, I think was stated. I would have considered Anna but she was too close to Lacey and Pimp.

There still is the fact that there has to have been other people not just the pimp taking pictures and video of the events at college. They are plastered all over the internet and can/will be found by MC sooner or later. Or brought to his attention, really don't want to see the love of your life like that.

 

[Fmedic]

And Dianne

Why don't I remember Dianne, were is she in the story??

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Why don't I remember Dianne, were is she in the story??

She is the redhead from the club on the jealousy date then she has some further run ins with the MC and Lacey in act 2