VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[DeviantFun]

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That doesn’t seem quite right though.

For one it doesn’t fit the timeline.
And I hope my memory isn’t playing tricks on me, but I remember, that their anniversary also kind of came and went and they neglected to do anything special for the occasion because of some drama

He says "coming up" so it could be set in the first big drama after the start of the suspicions, we won't get a perfect positioning.

The events from there should be:

Barty 1° happens and also MC getting pissed because Lacey says she sould go in shipping and receiving to get fucked.

Lacey starting dressing like a slut for work.

The Evan shower scene.

MC discovers the tennis dates

I think that is the moment where the anniversary is, at least roughly.

Why don't you think that fits?

 

[DeviantFun]

My List. Untill after the second cliffs call.

More later, need a recharge.

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A bit more from your truly:

28. One of the worst lines in the game, I bashed it heavily at the time of release, act 1 is sadly impregnated by "americal college culture" and becomes sexist and racist at times.
This kind of tallk is extremelly dehumanizing towards MC, again invalidating his feelings a person and judging him as a category, this is a long discussion and we already had it, if you are interested we can dredge it up.

32. Christine doesn't call MC Daddy for her own gain, she does it because she already started liking MC, sadly this is an inconsistency with act 2, where Christine is barely recognizable and stop calling MC that.

37. Lacey doesn't lie about Lorenzo attributes, it is confirmed in a later meeting between MC and Lorenzo.

39. grimdark for sure, Lacey college's life is akin to the fall of Cadia.

40. MC behaviour with Bethany is slap inducing from there on out, if I were Brad, MC would have another asshole in his forehead.

41. I don't get what you mean here.

43. Probably italian wine

46. yeah another example of american college culture there, painful to read and dehumanizing.
Not much can be said, get used to it, act 1 is filled to the brim with it, act 2 reduces that quite a bit.
Sad to think there are people that really think in that way.

48. hahaha yeah a fence would be nice, honestly the only weird part is how Jeanette and Christine are friends with the pimp now, they don't want to be friends with Lacey (understandable), but at least Christine has seen the messages, yet she only says that she is not "enthus" about the pimp pimping past, but what about the messages? Are you fine with them?
Like everyone seems to be fine with one of the worst behaviours shown in the story.
This to me is delirious and inconsistent.
Why are they friends now?

49. yup, MC is suicidal and his wife and her pimp are tallking about penis sizes, definitely in the top 5 of the worst moments in the game.
It is cathartic if you think about it, MC is at the cliffs while Lacey gets impaled by cock, MC goes back to the cliffs and Lacey is still distracted by the same cock.
There must be a connection here.
Bad writing choice imo, removes all sense of urgency, MC is forgotten at the cliffs, shows that MC is the most forever alone guy ever.

51. yeah the pimp sense of humor needs to be addressed at some point, it is just awful all around, I think I never even smiled once at any of them, quite the opposite.
Suicidal guy? I didn't want to be here, fuck you. How anyone on earth would find that funny or even remotely appropriate is beyond me.

Lacey getting K is explained, she got it from the dark web, so this is consistent.
However this ties to another point: how did the pimp get so much in act 2? where? if she is not "made of money" as she says, how could she have hundreds (possibly a thousand) dollars to spend?
Ludicrous.

52. MC essentially forgets about damian or at least treats that as a distant memory.
My idea is that the author needed to have the story consistent no matter which of the old path you chose.
No sharing
MC only sharing
Both sharing, which then was transformed in the damian incident.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

41. I don't get what you mean here.

Playing it from memory. Wasnt Abby, Jeannette sister, in some shit about drugs from Junior year to Jared? She wanted her sister to accompany her so she is protected in the Alumni reunion. It wasnt about vanity (appearing alone) it was about protection. and what happens in the reunion its not explained, except that later Jeannette gets a call from her sister asking to give christine an interview.

Lacey getting K is explained, she got it from the dark web, so this is consistent.

Didnt remember that, Act 2 is still fuzzy. How did she knew where to get it in the dark web?. That shit aint got ads exactly. And the money? Still lacks some explanation.

 

[Fitharia]

Playing it from memory. Wasnt Abby, Jeannette sister, in some shit about drugs from Junior year? She wanted her sister to accompany her so she is protected in the Alumni reunion. It wasnt about vanity (appearing alone) it was about protection. and what happens in the reunion its not explained, except that later Jeannette gets a call from her sister asking to give christine an interview.



Didnt remember that, Act 2 is still fuzzy. How did she knew where to get it in the dark web?. That shit aint got ads exactly. And the money? Still lacks some explanation.

Yes Abby and JAred knew eachother from college, Jared gave drugs to her and demanded repayment, when she couldn't, he used the hire Christine option as payment, so Abby had to convince Jeannette to do so. Christine sadly wasn't aware her uncle was just using her too for his plans.

The dark web is just a name, it hidden on normal internet with as much possible protection against the law, so it wouldn't be surprising she just stumbled on it when looking how to get access to drugs. But honestly they easier ways to get drugs then the dark web.

 

[Fitharia]

I also was overthinking recently, the mc always hoped to be her first and Mia told Mc about Laceys first in college, but there the story took a wrong mistake, Lacey was from her 6th when mc met her till her 19th sexual abused by her father and her mother hated her for it. So the real first time for Lacey was her father and she hated it, my guess it all started with him touching her first and forcing her slowly to touch him and somewhere between those years he started penetration.

Also the mc has alot to blame that Lacey left. He made all those rules of when he can touch her and when not and what he can do and what not, but if he had been lesser passive and work on her to show that touching could be good too, she could have learned that not all guys touching her were bad. So eventualy she had to leave her hometown to discover that, but sadly she was to damaged and still living in that fear. So her only solution ended in drinking and drugs, along came Mia and she ruined Lacey even more. So yea I still have no respect for the mc really, he could have done so much more to prevent all that.

But what best had been that both MC and Lacey had left hometown and studied in a far away college, because as long she stayed in her hometown her father had power over her to sexual abuse her. So for Lacey to leave was actualy a good thing, only the mc should have gone with her.

 

[DeviantFun]

Playing it from memory. Wasnt Abby, Jeannette sister, in some shit about drugs from Junior year to Jared? She wanted her sister to accompany her so she is protected in the Alumni reunion. It wasnt about vanity (appearing alone) it was about protection. and what happens in the reunion its not explained, except that later Jeannette gets a call from her sister asking to give christine an interview.

You're getting mixed up? I think Jeanette gets invited to that event by Abby after Christine is already hired.
I wouldn't read to much into it.

What is weird is that someone could come and ask for drug money years after.
The author should have picked a better blackmail driver here.

This:

J "She went to college with some guy."
J "One of the flings she had I guess."
J "Said she owed him some money."
J "A lot of money."
J "For some drugs she got off him back in her Junior year."

And this:
AB "Jared was, you know, 'the guy'."
AB "He could get just about anything."
AB "I liked to party, so I asked him to get me some molly and some weed."
AB "He just had it in his room."
AB "I didn't have the money for it, so we fucked a few times and then he gave it to me."
AB "I... guess I had a problem."
AB "I asked for more and he said that it wouldn't be free this time."
AB "I told him I was good for it."
AB "So he gave it to me."
AB "I really wasn't though."
AB "I avoided him after that."
AB "Awhile ago he demanded the money from me."
AB "I didn't really have it."
AB "So, he told me to get my sister to hire his niece into Jeanette's IT team."
AB "And you guys probably know the rest."

So EVERYONE can afford tons of drugs but poor Abby.
And even then, as a fucking VP of a company, you would risk it like that?
Sadly this part needs to be chalked up as "suspension of disbelief needed".

Because it makes no sense, either you never talk about drug money or you always talk about drug money.

Would be interesting if the "other side" was tied to prostitution for drugs. (it won't be I am speculating, especially because Lacey talks in the present.)

Didnt remember that, Act 2 is still fuzzy. How did she knew where to get it in the dark web?. That shit aint got ads exactly. And the money? Still lacks some explanation.

It does, but is it THAT important to the narrative? I don't think so, even though it would be nice to know where the pimp got hers, dark web too?
MC notices cash spent for clothes but doesn't notice Lacey spending cash for drugs?
I think we willl just have to accept it as it is.

I also was overthinking recently, the mc always hoped to be her first and Mia told Mc about Laceys first in college, but there the story took a wrong mistake, Lacey was from her 6th when mc met her till her 19th sexual abused by her father and her mother hated her for it. So the real first time for Lacey was her father and she hated it, my guess it all started with him touching her first and forcing her slowly to touch him and somewhere between those years he started penetration.

Also the mc has alot to blame that Lacey left. He made all those rules of when he can touch her and when not and what he can do and what not, but if he had been lesser passive and work on her to show that touching could be good too, she could have learned that not all guys touching her were bad. So eventualy she had to leave her hometown to discover that, but sadly she was to damaged and still living in that fear. So her only solution ended in drinking and drugs, along came Mia and she ruined Lacey even more. So yea I still have no respect for the mc really, he could have done so much more to prevent all that.

He respected a traumatized victim, offered himself and let her go at her pace.
You are blaming someone that did everything they could to keep a person alive, completely forgetting that physical touch for Lacey at this point is extremely traumatic and tied to her abuse.
You're thinking like Mia, don't think like Mia.

You should NEVER force physical touch on traumatized people, it can be EXTREMELY harmful.
This is not even a half joke, don't try it.

 

[AL.d]

52. MC essentially forgets about damian or at least treats that as a distant memory.
My idea is that the author needed to have the story consistent no matter which of the old path you chose.
No sharing
MC only sharing
Both sharing, which then was transformed in the damian incident.

The Damian thing was not sharing though. It was cheating clear as day. I don't remember him ever giving explicit consent, she deliberately ignores his calls (obviously she knew what they were about) and she does the same with his panicked attempts to at least set some rules. After she had made sure he couldn't reach her earlier to call it off. If you ever showed that entire situation to a proper ENM couple, they'd be having aneurysms.

Hell even the actual nts scene in the game (jealousy), is very dubious and has points where it definitely does not pass ENM standards. But at least there MC had some illusion of control. Until he realizes he really had none and his loving wife officially takes it from him and proceeds to give him a lesson on female bodies.

So what MC is being forced to forget by the dev, is his wife cheating on him with a co worker in the cruelest way possible and showing that to him on live feed. It's hard ntr any way you look at it and should have been treated throughout the game as the most impactful point of friction, above anything else.

 

[Fitharia]

He respected a traumatized victim, offered himself and let her go at her pace.
You are blaming someone that did everything they could to keep a person alive, completely forgetting that physical touch for Lacey at this point is extremely traumatic and tied to her abuse.
You're thinking like Mia, don't think like Mia.

You should NEVER force physical touch on traumatized people, it can be EXTREMELY harmful.
This is not even a half joke, don't try it.

You don't understand what I mean, the way Mia did it was wrong that is for sure, I also don't expected the mc forcefully touch her, that would been wrong too, what I mean is show her a different way of touching, in a gentle way, and not right away lead to sex, more like show her that subtle touches can be good, the sex part could have come later when she more relaxed with touches. But like said it was best she left hometown to be away from her father and mc would have been good too to gone with her.

 

[DeviantFun]

The Damian thing was not sharing though. It was cheating clear as day. I don't remember him ever giving explicit consent, she deliberately ignores his calls (obviously she knew what they were about) and she does the same with his panicked attempts to at least set some rules. After she had made sure he couldn't reach her earlier to call it off. If you ever showed that entire situation to a proper ENM couple, they'd be having aneurysms.

Hell even the actual nts scene in the game (jealousy), is very dubious and has points where it definitely does not pass ENM standards. But at least there MC had some illusion of control. Until he realizes he really had none and his loving wife officially takes it from him and proceeds to give him a lesson on female bodies.

So what MC is being forced to forget by the dev, is his wife cheating on him with a co worker in the cruelest way possible and showing that to him on live feed. It's hard ntr any way you look at it and should have been treated throughout the game as the most impactful point of friction, above anything else.

I should have been more clear, I was talking about the paths that are not present in the game anymore.
In those Damian could not exist and Anna could have been refused or the week could have gone by without anything happening iirc.

I have decided to expand on what I said:
I have pointed out the same thing in the past as you did, an exercise to give Mc control and then it gets removed in 5 minutes.
To me the jealousy date is akin to abuse.

True about the damian stuff, it gets forgotten half way, it should be mentioned every time they have breakfast, lunch or dinner.
Lacey should be on her knees.

Yet MC defends this in front of Dianne and Lacey mentions once that she feels bad about it.
I think this is the problem when you want to add shocking moments, you can't move away from them so quickly, you created the shock, you should deal with the shockwave.

You don't understand what I mean, the way Mia did it was wrong that is for sure, I also don't expected the mc forcefully touch her, that would been wrong too, what I mean is show her a different way of touching, in a gentle way, and not right away lead to sex, more like show her that subtle touches can be good, the sex part could have come later when she more relaxed with touches. But like said it was best she left hometown to be away from her father and mc would have been good too to gone with her.

He does touch her, caressing her head briefly for example, when he has her consent, they hold hands, always with her consent.
That is all Lacey can tolerate at this point.

We are not talking about sex, we are talking about general physical touch.

If you don't have the victim consent, you don't do it, period.

Lacey never gave him any consent (it is stated in the game dialogues) and he managed it very well as a teenager with raging hormones.
He should be commended, not chastized.

Trauma is complex, you can't go in and say "let me show you" without any sort of knowledge of what you are doing or what the implications could be for the victim.

One thing you point out that always bothered me is: did Mc know which college she attended? Does she know where she went? It is never indicated in the story but the opposite isn't indicated either.

 

[Fitharia]

I should have been more clear, I was talking about the paths that are not present in the game anymore.
In those Damian could not exist and Anna could have been refused or the week could have gone by without anything happening iirc.



He does touch her, caressing her head briefly for example, when he has her consent, they hold hands, always with her consent.
That is all Lacey can tolerate at this point.

We are not talking about sex, we are talking about general physical touch.

If you don't have the victim consent, you don't do it, period.

Lacey never gave him any consent (it is stated in the game dialogues) and he managed it very well as a teenager with raging hormones.
He should be commended, not chastized.

Trauma is complex, you can't go in and say "let me show you" without any sort of knowledge of what you are doing or what the implications could be for the victim.

One thing you point out that always bothered me is: did Mc know which college she attended? Does she know where she went? It is never indicated in the story but the opposite isn't indicated either.

Well Lacey told him she was going to college with him in their hometown college, and lied to him all they way to prom date and there just announced she leaving for another college. Seems she considered the mc at that time also a bad memory to me that would remind her about her dad sexual abuse and her mom verbal abuse. It sad that it happened that way, because he was for her always her crutch to survive. That where she went wrong and not encourage him come with her, but then again we wouldn't have this painfull story.

And about touches, i worked in a asylum for a year and there they did use that technic to help overcome of not like being touched, by using subtle touches like, stroking and massage therapy and for most victims it worked good, but it something that takes time and the victims can't stay in the abusive surrounding, like Lacey if she stayed in hometown she would always been in the same home as her dad. I can't really explain what they did as I never had to do myself, but sometimes you have to confront them with what they fear in a more controled invironment that it not always bad, sex though is something the victim themself must learn over time with someone they have feelings for.

Yes the mc touched her, but it was not really touches she feared, like holding hands and such. But yea I understand these things should more done by proffessionals, not a kid her same age. What he could have done though was inform the right people he suspect she being mistreated at home.

 

[DeviantFun]

Well Lacey told him she was going to college with him in their hometown college, and lied to him all they way to prom date and there just announced she leaving for another college. Seems she considered the mc at that time also a bad memory to me that would remind her about her dad sexual abuse and her mom verbal abuse. It sad that it happened that way, because he was for her always her crutch to survive. That where she went wrong and not encourage him come with her, but then again we wouldn't have this painfull story.

And about touches, i worked in a asylum for a year and there they did use that technic to help overcome of not like being touched, by using subtle touches like, stroking and massage therapy and for most victims it worked good, but it something that takes time and the victims can't stay in the abusive surrounding, like Lacey if she stayed in hometown she would always been in the same home as her dad. I can't really explain what they did as I never had to do myself, but sometimes you have to confront them with what they fear in a more controled invironment that it not always bad, sex though is something the victim themself must learn over time with someone they have feelings for.

Yes the mc touched her, but it was not really touches she feared, like holding hands and such. But yea I understand these things should more done by proffessionals, not a kid her same age. What he could have done though was inform the right people he suspect she being mistreated at home.

I know the backstory and the whole shenanigan where she applied to the out of state college two weeks before prom.
At this point I think MC didn't know where she went, else everything wouldn't make much sense.
We know MC is a man of inaction but holy hell.

I agree, all of what you stated is being done by professionals, not kids.
Usually before reaching touch the first steps are making the patient feel safe and they should consent to try.

Like Lacey did years after with the pimp, too bad the pimp abused it and destroyed her life, in fact it is stated that what she did left emotional and mental damage.

Also, I don't want to be pedantic since we seem to agree, but Lacey definitely feared touch, holding hands was a hard limit, actually her placing her hand over his was a hard limit iirc.
Touching anything else was off limits, aside from super brief headpats and holding her hands when she is trying to scratch her own face and eyes.
I think the mom beat her up too and also starved her as punishment because she was too fat in her opinion.
Wonderful parents indeed.

 

[Fitharia]

I think the mom beat her up too and also starved her as punishment because she was too fat in her opinion.
Wonderful parents indeed.

Not uncommon though, often when a woman sees her husband have sex with their daughter they feel threatened by the daughter and start hating her, it is sad, but happens often. Both Lacey parents was just bad and should have lost all rights to be parents. My mother experienced almost simular, but she was more smart on her 2 years she already told her father to back off and that she can wash her own, but didn't take away her father kept beating her and her mother did hated her. So yea my mother almost was in the same situation as Lacey, only thing my mother was rebel in heart and gotten stronger out it and never let her father touch her more then beating her. I hate my grandparents for that, so i know a little bit how Lacey must have gone through, but every abused person is still different, some get stronger others get complete destroyed like Lacey.

But this story somewhat let me understand how it must have been for my mother and yes i respect her with whole my heart as she always been there for me and helped me in bad moments.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

He says "coming up" so it could be set in the first big drama after the start of the suspicions, we won't get a perfect positioning.

The events from there should be:

Barty 1° happens and also MC getting pissed because Lacey says she sould go in shipping and receiving to get fucked.

Lacey starting dressing like a slut for work.

The Evan shower scene.

MC discovers the tennis dates

I think that is the moment where the anniversary is, at least roughly.

Why don't you think that fits?

So here’s my reasoning and thought

First, I consider the pimp deciding to to show MC the truth as Day 1 of the main story of Act 1, everything before that is prelude.

The only actual time reference we have for this Day 1 is that it’s at least 3 months after the wedding.

Now in Act 1 we have 8 time skips in total.
6 of which range from a single day day to half a week. I doubt these were used to just gloss over the anniversary. They were also at time where MC and Lacey were on good enough terms that they wouldn’t neglect the events.

Another time skip is the week following Lacey starting to play tennis. This follows the Pimps first lesson. The MC and Lacey still see each other in the evenings after work, and I don’t see them neglecting their anniversary at this time either

What fits in my opinion is the 8th timeskip.
The three weeks of marketing parties, where Lacey shuts out and neglects the MC and they aren’t really talking or seeing eachother.


Are you certain there is no other reference in the text logs?
I could have sworn that it was mentioned in the original Act 1 release, that they skipped doing anything.

I mean that the reason they are going to Vegas with Jeanette in Act 3 to make up for it right?

EDIT: Wait, when the promotion for MC comes up, doesn’t he mention, that he hasn’t even been with the company for a year? With MC and Lacey dating and getting to know each other again before marrying, wouldn’t that put there marriage at around 6 months?

 

[DeviantFun]

Not uncommon though, often when a woman sees her husband have sex with their daughter they feel threatened by the daughter and start hating her, it is sad, but happens often. Both Lacey parents was just bad and should have lost all rights to be parents. My mother experienced almost simular, but she was more smart on her 2 years she already told her father to back off and that she can wash her own, but didn't take away her father kept beating her and her mother did hated her. So yea my mother almost was in the same situation as Lacey, only thing my mother was rebel in heart and gotten stronger out it and never let her father touch her more then beating her. I hate my grandparents for that, so i know a little bit how Lacey must have gone through, but every abused person is still different, some get stronger others get complete destroyed like Lacey.

But this story somewhat let me understand how it must have been for my mother and yes i respect her with whole my heart as she always been there for me and helped me in bad moments.

That is vary sad story, I am happy that your mother found the strength to even make her own family and break the cycle.

Our discussion made me think about some aspects that I seemed to have glossed over.
We know that MC has been abandoned, we know Lacey became what she became.
We know MC was hurt by all this, but the hurt is even deeper than I thought.
Lacey felt safer with strangers than with him, sure drugs were involved, so it isn't exactly like this.
But how could he know, he never tried any.

Just a small thought on how their relationship has been stripped of even another basic thing.
And I should have understood it from the first scene in act 2 and the trip dream.

 

[Fitharia]

I mean that the reason they are going to Vegas with Jeanette in Act 3 to make up for it right?

About the Vegas thing and moving out the home, would it still happened if MC listened to The Monster and confronted Mia about her purse full K and delete the vid that was send without he looked at it, as it feels to me they would taken another path, I did so far the opposite and felt it only turn out better for Lacey and MC, as they could decide to take that vacation and find another home now they know they not safe there.

 

[DeviantFun]

So here’s my reasoning and thought

First, I consider the pimp deciding to to show MC the truth as Day 1 of the main story of Act 1, everything before that is prelude.

The only actual time reference we have for this Day 1 is that it’s at least 3 months after the wedding.

Now in Act 1 we have 8 time skips in total.
6 of which range from a single day day to half a week. I doubt these were used to just gloss over the anniversary. They were also at time where MC and Lacey were on good enough terms that they wouldn’t neglect the events.

Another time skip is the week following Lacey starting to play tennis. This follows the Pimps first lesson. The MC and Lacey still see each other in the evenings after work, and I don’t see them neglecting their anniversary at this time either

What fits in my opinion is the 8th timeskip.
The three weeks of marketing parties, where Lacey shuts out and neglects the MC and they aren’t really talking or seeing eachother.


Are you certain there is no other reference in the text logs?
I could have sworn that it was mentioned in the original Act 1 release, that they skipped doing anything.

I mean that the reason they are going to Vegas with Jeanette in Act 3 to make up for it right?

Yes that is the reason.

I am pretty sure, I read the script in the important parts and also searched for "wedding" and "anniversary".

I can look again but I am sure that the intro of act 1 and the fact that MC starts talking about events in the present tense has to place the anniversary around that point.

I can check again later also in the phone calls and messages.
But I think you are placing the anniversary too late, I mean, coming up means a couple of weeks, right?

About the Vegas thing and moving out the home, would it still happened if MC listened to The Monster and confronted Mia about her purse full K and delete the vid that was send without he looked at it, as it feels to me they would taken another path, I did so far the opposite and felt it only turn out better for Lacey and MC, as they could decide to take that vacation and find another home now they know they not safe there.

My theory, based on pure speculation, is that the Pimp got the K from familiar voice.
And that this could backfire somehow this why MC work will be harder.

Familiar voice seems to be flush with product.

Granted she already has the drugs when MC is supposed to stop her, so it doesn't fit perfectly.

 

[Fitharia]

That is vary sad story, I am happy that your mother found the strength to even make her own family and break the cycle.

Our discussion made me think about some aspects that I seemed to have glossed over.
We know that MC has been abandoned, we know Lacey became what she became.
We know MC was hurt by all this, but the hurt is even deeper than I thought.
Lacey felt safer with strangers than with him, sure drugs were involved, so it isn't exactly like this.
But how could he know, he never tried any.

Just a small thought on how their relationship has been stripped of even another basic thing.
And I should have understood it from the first scene in act 2 and the trip dream.

Not really sure she felt safer with strangers, at first she didn't even see other guys, it started with drinking, but didn't help, then she went on with drugs, that seemed to help, along that path she met Mia, who herself had a twisted evil mind due her past, and Mia want experience what sex was like by using Lacey to do all those things, without she had to do it, Lacey still at lapses where she wanted to commit suicide even during what Mia did. So I doubt she felt safer. But yes in the last lesson from Mia to the mc there was a peroid where Lacey felt enjoying sex with those strangers, so geuss there was a small peroid she felt better. But Mia must have hated it and brought Isaac in it and worked again on Lacey's self destruction. So for that I dislike Mia alot and can't understand they could still be friends, from outsider i could still forgive Mia and understand she's not entirely a bad girl, but what she done is wrong on all levels and should seek herself therapist guidance to see her doing was wrong.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Resolved, Anniversary couldn't have happened yet if MC started his job before he married Lacey

That would place the marriage at about 6 months be the end of Act 1

 

[DeviantFun]

Not really sure she felt safer with strangers, at first she didn't even see other guys, it started with drinking, but didn't help, then she went on with drugs, that seemed to help, along that path she met Mia, who herself had a twisted evil mind due her past, and Mia want experience what sex was like by using Lacey to do all those things, without she had to do it, Lacey still at lapses where she wanted to commit suicide even during what Mia did. So I doubt she felt safer. But yes in the last lesson from Mia to the mc there was a peroid where Lacey felt enjoying sex with those strangers, so geuss there was a small peroid she felt better. But Mia must have hated it and brought Isaac in it and worked again on Lacey's self destruction. So for that I dislike Mia alot and can't understand they could still be friends, from outsider i could still forgive Mia and understand she's not entirely a bad girl, but what she done is wrong on all levels and should seek herself therapist guidance to see her doing was wrong.

I am not saying she felt safer, k and disassociation were involved.

I wa referring to the fact that to MC it cannot look any other way.
It is extremely difficult to understand the effect of drugs if you never tried them.

I know the story by hearth.

I also would argue that the pimp behaviour is not related to her trauma at all.
We don't see anything related to her trauma in her willingness to break and mold people to her liking and we definitely don't see it when she cheers for Lacey when she is SA.
Do we think that a rape victim would cheer for that?

She is who she is because she is a twisted individual even without the bad stuff that happened to her.
A failed character who, like Lacey in act 1, is unable to show remorse aside from a couple of lines of dialogues and then cancelling any goodwill by acting like a selfish and self centered person who doesn't care about who is harmed as long as she can have what she wants.

View attachment 5102958 Resolved, Anniversary couldn't have happened yet if MC started his job before he married Lacey

Yeah as I said, when the messages and doubts start, the anniversary is still "coming up".
I would place it around the tennis dates discovery or maximum at the fake job.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I know the story by hearth.

C'mon Deviant, we know that you are the Devs alt account.

Obviously im joking