VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

The first relapse (practical joke) predates Mia bringing the suitcase by about 6 weeks

You're right, so there is possibly a 4th time then.....

 

[DeviantFun]

The issue with the deepfake is that it happens at two points in time

1. When Barty interviews Lacey to get a sample of her Voice for AI generation
I believe this happened early on for two reasons. One, Lacey would have needed to have found her ketamine stash before the practical joke morning and two, i think it likely this even predates Barty’s first drunk visit, that we only hear about from Lacey:
I assume something along the line of Barty got blackmailed or the like to interview Lacey while she’s under the influence, then with what he now knows about Lacey, the next time he was drunk he goes round to proposition her, and then comes the visit with MC where he says he doesn’t break promises
(This would also allude to the new big bad having been watching for quite a while longer than is assumed at the moment)

2. When the threesome gets filmed in MC’s living room with the blonde stand-in, which i agree happened a lot later in the story with all the current information it has

1. I am roughly of your same opinion, my wild idea is that it could even not be Barty but Lacey mistakenly thinks he was, pure speculation

2. yeah no info on that.

She really wanted to show her vision of sex and drag him into her version of it, show him that doing it with others meant nothing now and by extension all sex in college meant nothing, so he had nothing to worry about (Cough cough).

Then we already had the discussion on why she used the K and why she voluntarely ignored the rules. We have slightly different opinions on that.

She wants him to accept her vision as hers, that how she sees it, so that he would not fell threatened by her past.
To remove his "jealousy" which she loves but she also sees how it hurts him and their chance to be happy.

I mean we can say that all of this is her plan and she is faking shock at the deepfake video and SHE is the familiar voice.
I just llike to base myself on the material and not read intentions that are not shown clearly.

I agree tho, that her way to go about it was abysmal, useless, abusive and harmful.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

1. When Barty interviews Lacey to get a sample of her Voice for AI generation
I believe this happened early on for two reasons. One, Lacey would have needed to have found her ketamine stash before the practical joke morning and two, i think it likely this even predates Barty’s first drunk visit, that we only hear about from

First red bra night fits the time, it could be selfpunishment for the relapse and barty interrogation, even if she is not entirelly aware of the why.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

The first relapse (practical joke) predates Mia bringing the suitcase by about 6 weeks

She has two suitcases. Mia brings the second. The clothes with K could have been on the first one that its never mentioned what contained or when was unpacked.

 

[DeviantFun]

She has two suitcases. Mia brings the second. The clothes with K could have been on the first one that its never mentioned what contained or when was unpacked.

I don't think that it is indicated that the first suitcase is hers or MC's or bought together, right?

(we are digging so deep that we arrived at suitcase ownership )

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I mean we can say that all of this is her plan and she is faking shock at the deepfake video and SHE is the familiar voice.

Wouldnt be that a twist now?

Im out of reactions too. Sorry DF. I would have dropped you a like.

I don't think that it is indicated that the first suitcase is hers or MC's or bought together, right?

Correct, only that it was to be used by both in the future

 

[Chaoticjustice]

She really wanted to show her vision of sex and drag him into her version of it, show him that doing it with others meant nothing now and by extension all sex in college meant nothing, so he had nothing to worry about (Cough cough).

Then we already had the discussion on why she used the K and why she voluntarely ignored the rules. We have slightly different opinions on that.

Regarding the college sex and the jealousy, I don't think the main driving force of the MC's jealousy is necessarily that she had a lot of sex in college

I think he's jealous that him and Lacey won't share any sexual firsts together , as most things will be a new experience to him , where as she's done everything and then some

Now I know there have been some firsts such as kissing and the double fisting but it's Lacey all she does is lie - so why would the MC believe that he is the first

 

[AL.d]

Regarding the college sex and the jealousy, I don't think the main driving force of the MC's jealousy is necessarily that she had a lot of sex in college

I think he's just that him and Lacey won't share any sexual firsts together , as most things will be a new experience to him , where as she's done everything and then some

Now I know there have been some firsts such as kissing and the double fisting but it's Lacey all she does is lie - so why would the MC believe that he is the first

There is a first he can be sure of.

He can take pride for being her first cuckolded husband. This is a beautiful thing that they shared together for the first time and no one can take that from him.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I don't think the main driving force of the MC's jealousy is necessarily that she had a lot of sex in college

Mostly from my understanding of the MC character. No firsts for him and that its not related to only sex, lots of others giving her what she wanted and otherwise, and of course no giving a fuck about him as much as she claims she missed him all the time. I thinks thats his take about the college time

 

[DeviantFun]

Regarding the college sex and the jealousy, I don't think the main driving force of the MC's jealousy is necessarily that she had a lot of sex in college

I think he's just that him and Lacey won't share any sexual firsts together , as most things will be a new experience to him , where as she's done everything and then some

Now I know there have been some firsts such as kissing and the double fisting but it's Lacey all she does is lie - so why would the MC believe that he is the first

I would have dropped the biggest like ever to this comment, I think it is spot on.
It is not only about the firsts (even if MC is very hurt by it and comes out in the PTSD episode at his promotion party), it is about having anything that is only theirs (author hints at it in the deepfake video).
It is about everything that can be done as a couple being stripped or tainted.
Even one of Lacey's sexual fantasies is sloppy seconds (redo of the 3 weeks).

First of all, I wouldn't even consider what MC feels as jealousy.
To expand on what I says above, it is about abandonement, losing the person you love and finding out that the person next to you is not who you loved but a tainted version.
Lacey will never be "only" his, as she also mentions, he has to share her with her past.

Mostly from my understanding of the MC character. No firsts for him and that its not related to only sex, lots of others giving her what she wanted and otherwise, and of course no giving a fuck about him as much as she claims she missed him all the time. I thinks thats his take about the college time

another like, spot on.

 

[Maviarab]

I mean we can say that all of this is her plan and she is faking shock at the deepfake video and SHE is the familiar voice.

We 100% can't, as she is with other people when we 'hear' the familar voice talking to Will.

(we are digging so deep that we arrived at suitcase ownership )

but it's Lacey all she does is lie

This is more hurtful...or would be to me. As I always say, without trust and honesty, you don't actually have a relationship. This is the crux for the MC, he does not know who he is married to.

 

[DeviantFun]

We 100% can't, as she is with other people when we 'hear' the familar voice talking to Will.

there could be more than one familiar voice you know?

the one we see in that scene could just be another cronie manipulated by Lacey.

I know this is all silly it is just that sometimes our theories go sooooo far away from the material that it feels like throwing things at the wall and see what sticks

 

[Maviarab]

there could be more than one familiar voice you know?

the one we see in that scene could just be another cronie manipulated by Lacey.

I know this is all silly it is just that sometimes our theories go sooooo far away from the material that it feels like throwing things at the wall and see what sticks

So she is manipulating everyone and the MC is going to be given the only male lead job in the porn studio?

Crysus touched on it in our conversation with an edit but none of this touches upon, if the interview was looonnng before the finding K in the jumper incident (so those incidents were not together)....then there has been two uses at home...making 4 times, so another lie by Lacey or she forgot, (or she was spiked at some point, Mia is around a lot, could have put it in her coffee...especially if Cry is correct that Mia's stash is not new, it's left over...who knows).

 

[CrysusPariah2]

So she is manipulating everyone and the MC is going to be given the only male lead job in the porn studio?

Crysus touched on it in our conversation with an edit but none of this touches upon, if the interview was looonnng before the finding K in the jumper incident (so those incidents were not together)....then there has been two uses at home...making 4 times, so another lie by Lacey or she forgot, (or she was spiked at some point, Mia is around a lot, could have put it in her coffee...especially if Cry is correct that Mia's stash is not new, it's left over...who knows).

Sorry, maybe i wasn’t clear

By my timeline and estimate there were 3 uses, 2 at home (one the Barty interview, the other the practical joke morning) and the third time was with Damian

Where are you getting a 4th use from?

 

[Maviarab]

Sorry, maybe i wasn’t clear

By my timeline and estimate there were 3 uses, 2 at home (one the Barty interview, the other the practical joke morning) and the third time was with Damian

Where are you getting a 4th use from?

L "Since then, I've used three times."
L "Once I told you about and two I didn't."
MC "One was on your trip."
L "Yes."
MC "Ohhhhhh, wait a minute."
MC "Another time was the night I didn't come home."
MC "That's why you were acting so weird the next morning."
L "I'm kind of impressed you figured it out."
MC "Holy shit that explains that conversation."
MC "It was so bizarre and out of character for you."

MC "And you said there was a third?"
L "Yes."
L "I'm deeply embarrassed to say that I don't remember it very well."
L "I was home alone and found a small stash in an old sweatshirt pocket."
L "I hadn't worn that sweatshirt since I was in school."
L "I found it and... made the wrong choice."
L "At least that time I didn't do anything stupid."
L "But... those aren't the only times I've wanted to jump into a k-hole."

So yes I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying the interview was weeks before the jumper incident. If that 'is' correct, then there is a 4th time, 'if' the interview does not line up with the night she found the jumper and took the K because the MC was away.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

L "Since then, I've used three times."
L "Once I told you about and two I didn't."
MC "One was on your trip."
L "Yes."
MC "Ohhhhhh, wait a minute."
MC "Another time was the night I didn't come home."
MC "That's why you were acting so weird the next morning."
L "I'm kind of impressed you figured it out."
MC "Holy shit that explains that conversation."
MC "It was so bizarre and out of character for you."

MC "And you said there was a third?"
L "Yes."
L "I'm deeply embarrassed to say that I don't remember it very well."
L "I was home alone and found a small stash in an old sweatshirt pocket."
L "I hadn't worn that sweatshirt since I was in school."
L "I found it and... made the wrong choice."
L "At least that time I didn't do anything stupid."
L "But... those aren't the only times I've wanted to jump into a k-hole."

So yes I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying the interview was weeks before the jumper incident. If that 'is' correct, then there is a 4th time, 'if' the interview does not line up with the night she found the jumper and took the K because the MC was away.

I’m saying the interview was the jumper incident, just that Lacey didn’t mean the red jumper when she said that

 

[DeviantFun]

So she is manipulating everyone and the MC is going to be given the only male lead job in the porn studio?

Crysus touched on it in our conversation with an edit but none of this touches upon, if the interview was looonnng before the finding K in the jumper incident (so those incidents were not together)....then there has been two uses at home...making 4 times, so another lie by Lacey or she forgot, (or she was spiked at some point, Mia is around a lot, could have put it in her coffee...especially if Cry is correct that Mia's stash is not new, it's left over...who knows).

So I know we keep on saying that Lacey is not worthy of trust but you might forget what you experience during K but not that you took it.
I mean I can only go with anecdotal experience and already her forgetting SO MUCH is weird to me.

So I will stay with the 3 untill proven otherwise.

The first relapse (practical joke) predates Mia bringing the suitcase by about 6 weeks, which is why i think, when she is talking about finding a stash in a sweatshirt, she doesn’t mean the red sweatshirt

EDIT:
Also a thought to consider: what if the stash that Mia had in Act 2 wasn’t a new supply, but part of the original supply she used to ply Lacey up with in college?
And Lacey didn’t happen to find some old ketamine by chance, but was left there deliberately and maybe also other locations, for Lacey to find in a vile act of sabotage by Mia?
DeviantFun what do you think? Is the pimp awful enough to do this?

The Pimp was never her supplier I think, Lacey used before meeting her and at the beginning she didn't know.
I had an idea of the K being left around for her to find, because how the fuck was Barty ready with a camera? not a smartphone mind you, the dialogues are explicit about it being a camera.

L "I mean, I kind of remember something..."
L "I remember the camera... I remember Barty..."
L "I remember him calling me names..."
L "And him degrading me... And me crying..."
L "I remember him telling me to look at the camera... and to talk to the camera..."
L "And him telling me that I'm the same girl I always was..."
L "I even remember some of those things I said."

So the idea that it has been planted OR that there are cameras in MC house is strong.

Sadly I don't think the pimp has anything to do with it, unless it is providing info unwillingly through the crew or whatever else and I don't know if she is involved.

She could have kept the sabotage going for a while, she is always at MC home, she could leave tons of stuff here and there.

I’m saying the interview was the jumper incident, just that Lacey didn’t mean the red jumper when she said that

I am with you and said the same in the past red hoodie != old sweatshirt.

 

[Maviarab]

I’m saying the interview was the jumper incident, just that Lacey didn’t mean the red jumper when she said that

Gotya, I misread what you meant then.

 

[Lestrouduc]

She really wanted to show her vision of sex and drag him into her version of it, show him that doing it with others meant nothing now and by extension all sex in college meant nothing, so he had nothing to worry about (Cough cough).

Then we already had the discussion on why she used the K and why she voluntarely ignored the rules. We have slightly different opinions on that.

There's no doubt she willfully ignored the rules because she wanted to get fucked by another guy and cum from that other guy. It's not any simpler than that. Everything she says to the MC about it is bullshit, aside from the dissociation of sex and love.
She read MC's texts before taking the K, that's for sure!
We'll never know the truth because I don't think the Professor will ever come back to this. I love this girl as much as I hate her, but she's really toxic to him.....let's hope therapy or someone else will get her back on track.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I would have dropped the biggest like ever to this comment, I think it is spot on.
It is not only about the firsts (even if MC is very hurt by it and comes out in the PTSD episode at his promotion party), it is about having anything that is only theirs (author hints at it in the deepfake video).
It is about everything that can be done as a couple being stripped or tainted.
Even one of Lacey's sexual fantasies is sloppy seconds (redo of the 3 weeks).

First of all, I wouldn't even consider what MC feels as jealousy.
To expand on what I says above, it is about abandonement, losing the person you love and finding out that the person next to you is not who you loved but a tainted version.
Lacey will never be "only" his, as she also mentions, he has to share her with her past.



another like, spot on.

Now I'm going to throw another though into the mix but I could be off the mark with it as I can't exactly remember all of the scenes

But anytime the MC and Lacey have sex or do sexy stuff I have it in my head that they are all either red bra nights or Lacey decides exactly what they do , the MC never gets a say in what they do in the bedroom

Which brings me to my next point the nightmare
with this thought it now has me thinking that there is a lot more meaning to the she's a slut for everyone but me nightmare