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Maviarab

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I like most of it, but Lacey did mention the Ketamine to the MC after Mia tries to get her to relapse! What she doesn't say is what happened to all the Ketamine
Regardless, very well done, and congratulations on your efforts!
No she doesn't. Again, all she says is:

L "Now I know why you asked me about ketamine and whether I trusted Mia or not."

Nothing more, nothing less. Not that she brought any (and she does not know the MC knows Mia had it as he never told her that), not that there was half a pound of it on the kitchen table...nothing.
 

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No she doesn't. Again, all she says is:

L "Now I know why you asked me about ketamine and whether I trusted Mia or not."

Nothing more, nothing less. Not that she brought any (and she does not know the MC knows Mia had it as he never told her that), not that there was half a pound of it on the kitchen table...nothing.
I guess that's your interpretation of events, but to me, it's not
- Have a conversation of "Do you trust Mia" and "Would you take Ketamine again if it was in the house"
- The very next day, Mia tries to give Ketamine to Lacey
- MC gets home, and the first thing Lacey says is "Now I know why you asked about ketamine and whether I trusted Mia or not"

The fact that Lacey is bringing up ketamine specifically tells MC that she was given easy access to ketamine.

However, I'll agree to disagree on this one
 

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To All: (even if you don't know about my vent on Patreon)

I want to sincerely apologize for my vent/rant what ever you want to call it
I had a bad choice of words when I was writing it but I meant the same thing as was replied - i don't want to elaborate
I have been having too much anxiety/depression over this story to the point of feeling sick to my stomach and fearing that I'm going to give myself a stomach ulcer every time I think of this story. (I know stop reading it - I need closure now)
Please understand that I had to do something to help me.
I know it doesn't mean much but that vent really did help my mental state. I was in a bad way

Please accept my sincere apology
People need to stop using their weak mental state as an excuse for poor behaviour. Toughen up. The real world is brutal. If reading a fictional story does that to you I suggest sticking with feel good topics/stories only from now on.
 
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MightbeSomeone

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quick question is there any pt that allows the MC to not have sex with others? Ive tried multiple times and have not had that occur
 

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quick question is there any pt that allows the MC to not have sex with others? Ive tried multiple times and have not had that occur
I don't think so.
Anna and/or Mia, and maybe another, Kelly?, are unavoidable.
Lacey can be turned down three times currently (she is your wife though remember, there are forced scenes with her). Anna is now forced as well as Kelly. No other character is, you can turn Christine down, you can turn Mia down. None others have scenes yet.
 
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MightbeSomeone

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I would like to see things changed to give it a better feel
1 allow the mc to deny everyone including his wife after she live streams
2 all the mc and lacey decide to not do the live stream and have a different path of recovery
3 after the live stream allow the mc to walk away from lacey and see her collapse into what ever she does
4 allow the mc to discover how evil mia is
 

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I would like to see things changed to give it a better feel
1 allow the mc to deny everyone including his wife after she live streams
2 all the mc and lacey decide to not do the live stream and have a different path of recovery
3 after the live stream allow the mc to walk away from lacey and see her collapse into what ever she does
4 allow the mc to discover how evil mia is
These are fine ideas.

1 will have a problem because we won't see how Lacey manipulates MC with sex or more specifically BJs.
Look at all the BJs she gives to MC and see what happens before, they are always "rewards" or "apologies".

2 it was like that originally, I think that part is badly written with all the gang watching + the nonexistent fallout + the stupid "yeah morty is better than damian" when she came 3 times in a span of minutes with Damian.
In the original files all that drama could be avoided, MC could make yhe choice.

3 I got some hope for an alive MC at the beginning of act 2, instead we got the same boring, weak and passive eunuch we got fed In act 1.

4 this is another big one, once I am back from my trip I promise I will write an essay on her, she makes 0 positive contributions to yhe story, yhinks yhe "pure form" of Lacey is a degraded human toilet, not an artist that could use sex or erotism in her art to show her trauma, just a drugged up human toilet.
And this is only the tip of the iceberg, the author fucked up here if he wanted to show a good character or a character we could empathise with.
Failed character.
 

MightbeSomeone

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When i played the first time i was shocked and utterly disappointed in the live stream event - it should have been avoidable and if it did happen it should have allowed the mc to leave her and show her as the abuser she is

and mia is a pure piece of trash destroying her “friend “ like that
 

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Dump all those mental chicks and get with the redhead, case closed. :giggle:
An ideal option almost.

To our incredible regret, our boy can't drop everything and walk off into the sunset with a beautiful busty stranger. And because he's a loser, a wimp, and just a mentally ill moron.
And I'm not writing this out of malice, but out of frustration
 

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An ideal option almost.

To our incredible regret, our boy can't drop everything and walk off into the sunset with a beautiful busty stranger. And because he's a loser, a wimp, and just a mentally ill moron.
And I'm not writing this out of malice, but out of frustration
The problem I have, aside from MC being a witness without any real control or power over his life, is that I can accept him being overly damaged.

Really, I can almost get over the super jesus christ complex of forgiving and helping everyone. (The Isaac hasty rewrite into some sort of pastor with attachment issues is so absurd that is almost comical, the guy that recognises Kelly by her tits now has become a poor teddy bear with a broken heart, yeah right).

What I can't get over is the absolute lack of support network for MC.
Every single person next to him is there to either get a piece of him or scramble his life for "the greater good".
Anna in particular has these metronome behaviours, from protector to tormentor that makes me think that her character has been sacrificed for drama.
 

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The problem I have, aside from MC being a witness without any real control or power over his life, is that I can accept him being overly damaged.

Really, I can almost get over the super jesus christ complex of forgiving and helping everyone. (The Isaac hasty rewrite into some sort of pastor with attachment issues is so absurd that is almost comical, the guy that recognises Kelly by her tits now has become a poor teddy bear with a broken heart, yeah right).

What I can't get over is the absolute lack of support network for MC.
Every single person next to him is there to either get a piece of him or scramble his life for "the greater good".
Anna in particular has these metronome behaviours, from protector to tormentor that makes me think that her character has been sacrificed for drama.
I'm fine with the toxic trio. After all, prey attract predators. And it's pretty clear all three of them are selfishly using him in some way.

My issue with the game is refusing to acknowledge it. Which shows the dev refuses to acknowledge it. Which is worrying because if the writer doesn't see those characters as toxic, the way almost every player does, then the story is fucked.

Lacey who is intentionally written as toxic, gets away with it all the time. The other two aren't even considered as such, MC never blames them for anything. Especially Anna. I'm not sure if the writer even realizes what he has done with her so far. She is very often shown to be a condescending bitch, whose only role is to make sure MC remains this obedient chained puppy.

I have a sneaking suspicion that dev thinks as long as everything works out in favor of MC getting a lot of pussy, any behavior is justified. It's fine if they control and manipulate him, they are making a harem for him, he should be grateful. Which would be fine for a mindless harem game, but not this one.
 

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Let's talk about Anna.
Despite the fact that I follow the topic, I am perplexed by the negativity towards her.
Her behavior and actions fit into the presented character and did not cause me negativity. I will say more - for a woman with unrequited love, her actions are very generous.. And to some extent, you can trace the maternal notes - she tries to take care of the man as best she can.
The only moment that spoils the whole idyllic picture is the completely ridiculous love-friendly attitude towards Lacey. In any case, her attitude towards her should balance from hostility to hatred.
Unfortunately, she cannot be considered as a potential match for our boy. But not because she is bad.
 

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I'm fine with the toxic trio. After all, prey attract predators. And it's pretty clear all three of them are selfishly using him in some way.

My issue with the game is refusing to acknowledge it. Which shows the dev refuses to acknowledge it. Which is worrying because if the writer doesn't see those characters as toxic, the way almost every player does, then the story is fucked.

Lacey who is intentionally written as toxic, gets away with it all the time. The other two aren't even considered as such, MC never blames them for anything. Especially Anna. I'm not sure if the writer even realizes what he has done with her so far. She is very often shown to be a condescending bitch, whose only role is to make sure MC remains this obedient chained puppy.

I have a sneaking suspicion that dev thinks as long as everything works out in favor of MC getting a lot of pussy, any behavior is justified. It's fine if they control and manipulate him, they are making a harem for him, he should be grateful. Which would be fine for a mindless harem game, but not this one.
You see, I don't mind a bit of catfighting.
But it is never treated so such.

Let's look at Anna, she often makes derogatory remarks towards MC, whether the author sees them as such is in doubt.
I can't understand her in many occasions, she pounces like a tiger at the Lorenzo event, but then cries and runs back into the pimp's arms after the lessons, considering not talking to her one of yhe meaniest things she ever done....really?
Where is this protective Anna that we keep on hearing about? She should have blown the pimp out of the water after something so evil was done to MC (yes the lessons are pure evil in intent and execution, no matter how anyone tried to paint it).
The Isaac event where she deletes the recording is also very dubious, why is she protecting Lacey over MC, and how can she care more about Lacey than MC after all we seen? (Saying she is like a sister? After three know each other for 1 year? What is this, kindergarden?)

I have a lot to say about the failed character, because if something is ruining the story, it is the treatment of Mia for her behaviour.

She was perfectly content with giving MC a handjob, yet no one confronts her on not going through the same "treatment" as she convinced Lacey to do.

Ahh but wait, the pimp oure form is not being a public toilet that had emotional and mental damages, that was Lacey pure form!

She refers to Lacey college time as glorious, while recognizing that she ruined her life and she was being treated like shit... but, wait, the pimp didn't make a mistake, that was previous Lacey pure form, not the current one, right?
So why is she so hellbent in showing her previous form to MC?
First to break them up because she wanted Lacey for herself, only her knew the "real" Lacey (spoiler, she doesn't), the second time is to steal MC, and everyone is fine with it.
And then she has the gall to say she did this for MC, that is cool, since every time she does something MC comes out battered and bruised.

The fact that the author wrote this without having no one reacting to her actions, or even Lacey contradicting her more than once is baffling.
Like are we really supposed to see something good in this character? Where? How?

No one confronts her about anything, we read that she "punishes herself", like how? By being a bitch to MC at every chance? By trying to ruin your best friend marriage twice?
MC sometimes mentiones that he should be angry at her and that is it, even Christine that hated her a few lines of dialogues ago now is "not enthus" about her past but she think she is cool.

Don't get me started on the "graveyard humor" she is shown to have with Lacey, which is absolutely disgusting, since Pimp was never in any sort of pain or danger, she was the one pushing.

"Hey Lacey, do you remember when I almost pushed you to kill yourself by overdosing? That was so crazy! Haha".
"Hey Lacey do you remember when I pushed you to be mistreated by several men so I could get over my fear of penises? Hahahah".
"Hey Lacey do you remember when you were weak and drugged up and I pushed you to ruin your future? Bwahahaha".

Add to this that she is never, literally never, funny, she hasn't a single line that is funny, she only comes as abrasive and obnoxious.
But the author has shown to be able to throw good zingers here and there, the daiquiri lines from MC (the first ones, then it becomes repetitive) made me chuckle.

She causes MC to have a ptsd episode and then hides behind having her filters lowered because she is comfortable, and this is wrote like an ok thing.
It is disgusting, it is the equivalent to hang out with a friend that lost his father recently and is grieving, just to make jokes about being fatherless.

She still gets invited to the king weekend for some reason and proceeds to do the same for the whole two days.

Speaking of the kind weekend, this should be MC big moment right?

As soon as he gets in Lacey makes him uncomfortable with the intimacy question.
Then we get this meet and greet where most of the girls trauma dump on him.
Then we get the first game, where the girls, that witnessed him having a mental breakdown just a few days before, push him and prod him to make dangerous questions, AND THEN GET SURPRISED WHEN TGE QUESTION COMES.
The worse there is the pimp, not happy with all the damages she has done, keeps pestering Lacey for honesty.

Second day is not much better, Veronica hammers MC twice, the pimp does worse and tries to add unrequested details. (We also see how much of a bad person she was even in the past).
So this king weekend ends up with zero MC requests (witness as usual) and him having to navigate a minefield as usual.

Anyway I had to write this in like 5 rounds, so it might be jumbled, but I hope you get what I mean.
 

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If you didn't play the game and just read the comments you would never know these are adults were talking about. Nothing I mean nothing sounds like a bunch of adults sounds like a bunch of emotional teenagers. What's that phrase with friends like these who needs enemies.
 

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Let's talk about Anna.
Despite the fact that I follow the topic, I am perplexed by the negativity towards her.
Her behavior and actions fit into the presented character and did not cause me negativity. I will say more - for a woman with unrequited love, her actions are very generous.. And to some extent, you can trace the maternal notes - she tries to take care of the man as best she can.
The only moment that spoils the whole idyllic picture is the completely ridiculous love-friendly attitude towards Lacey. In any case, her attitude towards her should balance from hostility to hatred.
Unfortunately, she cannot be considered as a potential match for our boy. But not because she is bad.
Would you refer to the man you love as a "fragile boy"?
Or dehumanize him and invalidate his feelings by describing them as "male ego"?

Would you hide the tennis dates from him?

Would you be relieved when he asks not to help him finding out what Lacey is plotting?

But wait there is more: would you let him watch, during a ptsd episode no less, his wife getting railed by a guy that keeps on insulting him?

Would you forgive and run back crying g to the pimp after she destroyed MC self worth with her "lessons"?

Or even delete the Isaac recording, so that Lacey can offer a totally edulcorated and redacted version of the events?

Or maybe when she doesn't tell Lacey that the job is fake nor expose her to MC immediately?

When does Anna protect MC? Is shouting at Lacey once during the Lorenzo event enough?
Or telling Mia off very lightly at the king weekend?
Is this the maximum protection we can expect?
 

Maviarab

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And I'm not writing this out of malice, but out of frustration
Oh we understand...

Let's talk about Anna.
Despite the fact that I follow the topic, I am perplexed by the negativity towards her.
Her behavior and actions fit into the presented character and did not cause me negativity. I will say more - for a woman with unrequited love, her actions are very generous.. And to some extent, you can trace the maternal notes - she tries to take care of the man as best she can.
The only moment that spoils the whole idyllic picture is the completely ridiculous love-friendly attitude towards Lacey. In any case, her attitude towards her should balance from hostility to hatred.
Unfortunately, she cannot be considered as a potential match for our boy. But not because she is bad.
Now..have you looked at 'my' timeline? No? I suggest you do...look down the 'Anna column'....then get back to us regarding your post ;)
 

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I tried this game on advice from a friend - i am so at a loss lacey and the mc are being destroyed by the “friends”
And lacey doing what she did was all due to her “friends” wanting to “fix” things.

sorry but the dev needs to give the player some control on this - allow the live stream to not happen, allow the mc to see what they are doing and stop it. Not just destroy everything and then pretend all
Is good.

this game needs some serious reworking or it will become far worse than what it is
 

Maviarab

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lacey and the mc are being destroyed by the “friends”
Other than Mia's steal the MC through Ket plan....Lacey requires no help from anyone to destroy them.

And lacey doing what she did was all due to her “friends” wanting to “fix” things.
What are you referring to specifically here? Her time in college was one 'one friend'....anything after, is all down to her and her alone, her 'friends' even try to talk her out of it most of the time, example being Damian.

Remember Lacey telling the MC, Mia and Anna balance each other out? If they both agree then I know it's a good idea. Remember the fix the cuck convo in the cafe? Neither agree with her....she ignores them anyway (and Mia even walks away saying if you do it, you do it alone).

So not sure exactly what that comment of yours means.
 
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