VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

What am I missing -

A lot of nuance. This is not a quick lecture or a skip to sex scenes, or you are gonna miss a lot of info to make sense of the game. For example Christine attitude in this Damian scene makes sense when you know who Christine uncle is, and that is revealed later. This is a game where you have to go back and check dialogues a lot.

Christine had orders from his uncle to "unmask" Lacey as the cheating whore she is to "protect the MC". Thats why she goes away from the Damian scene for a moment and when it cames back she has a different attitude, sudenly she is the one who wants the video on the TV to be played in front of everyone.

To add to Dios' comment, the only thing Mia really says here (And I put the script in a previous post for you) is her saying she has seen it all before so she doesn't really care less about it seeing the stream. Christine wants it on...Jeanette is the one to link it to the TV.

Mia never, not once, had anything to do with this plan and was actively against it from the very first day Lacey mentioned it.

 

[Sayora]

Or when Anna lies to Lacey at work and sends her home where Mia was waiting for her with a bag of special K.

Guys, what are you even talking about?

She does what she thinks is right and necessary, trying to get rid of the trash. The method is crap, but the result could outweigh

Almost all other examples are taken out of context.

She is the only one who did not abandon the rag in trouble, she is the only one who tried to do at least something useful for the rag. The only one who supported him for 5 years. who was rejected but he still stayed.

And she has every moral right to protect her rag from the encroachments of other competitors. Even though she does not reciprocate

Fragile boy, what kind of example is this, especially since he really is one.
She covered for Lacey when she was lying, but as I already wrote, I do not understand the motive of Anna's friendly loving attitude towards Mia and Lacey at all, so I cannot explain such nonsense.

 

[Maviarab]

Sighs...

trying to get rid of the trash.

She never once tries to get rid of anyone...

Almost all other examples are taken out of context.

They areally aren't.

She is the only one who did not abandon the rag in trouble, she is the only one who tried to do at least something useful for the rag. The only one who supported him for 5 years. who was rejected but he still stayed.

Hehe...ohhhh sweet Anna...who actually left him 'twice'....is this the Anna you mean who 'still stayed'?

That Anna?

The sxame Anna who never does anything (post college) to protect him from the succubus and the pimp, not once, despite knowing their plans and being actively involved in Mia's kitchen K plan?

That Anna....or are we discussing a different Anna? Maybe the Anna that point blank told the succubus she was going to steal the MC if she did one more bullshit idiotic thing....and still hasn't, because the succubus spouted some Eastern Tibetan mystical Buddha shit? Maybe that Anna?

 

[Sayora]

She never once tries to get rid of anyone...

lacey
even if not with own hands

Hehe...ohhhh sweet Anna...who actually left him 'twice'....is this the Anna you mean who 'still stayed'?

I only know about one and any normal person in her place would have done the same but she came back worrying about him despite the fact that he rejected her feelings.

The sxame Anna who never does anything (post college) to protect him from the succubus and the pimp, not once, despite knowing their plans and being actively involved in Mia's kitchen K plan?

Anna is a very smart girl, perhaps this is a cynical way to make competitors drown themselves.
so far this is the only explanation for her behavior.
I can say that you have set the dogs on the wrong person.
Anna is not perfect, but she is not trash like Lacey and not a teenager like Mia.

 

[Maviarab]

I only know about one

Maybe pay more attention then

and any normal person in her place would have done the same

Completely agree, won't argue with that.

but she came back

So did the succubus....

Anna is a very smart girl

Smart, intelligence, good, bad, logical, common sense, have very little in common. Sure, she very academically smart and probably quite intelligent with it, doesn't change her actual actions (or lack of). They are not mutually exclusive of each other.

 

[AL.d]

lacey
even if not with own hands

No, you are wrong. When MC was about to leave Lacey and everyone else behind, she pulled him back in.

I only know about one and any normal person in her place would have done the same but she came back worrying about him despite the fact that he rejected her feelings.

By "worry", you mean constantly belittle and gaslight him the exact same way Lacey does? You have weird definitions for things.

Anna is a very smart girl, perhaps this is a cynical way to make competitors drown themselves.
so far this is the only explanation for her behavior.
I can say that you have set the dogs on the wrong person.
Anna is not perfect, but she is not trash like Lacey and not a teenager like Mia.

Cynical way to do what? Lacey has already used multiple times within the marriage and MC is still here. The only possible result is making MC even more miserable.

Have you played another game? Every single time Anna had to pick between MC's and Lacey's interests, she has picked Lacey. What drowning of competitors are you even talking about? She just let Mia go on with her shitty plan that had no hope to succeed, especially since MC was already aware (and she knew). It wasn't even something she actively did herself.

 

[Sayora]

So did the succubus....

Except that she did it because she was genuinely worried about MC and lacey did it because she was told about it and up until that point she didn't give a damn about MC.

 

[Sayora]

No, you are wrong. When MC was about to leave Lacey and everyone else behind, she pulled him back in.



By "worry", you mean constantly belittle and gaslight him the exact same way Lacey does? You have weird definitions for things.




Cynical way to do what? Lacey has already used multiple times within the marriage and MC is still here. The only possible result is making MC even more miserable.

Have you played another game? Every single time Anna had to pick between MC's and Lacey's interests, she has picked Lacey. What drowning of competitors are you even talking about? She just let Mia go on with her shitty plan that had no hope to succeed, especially since MC was already aware (and she knew). It wasn't even something she actively did herself.

A cynical way to further cleave the relationship between rag and trash. Sooner or later even a diamond cracks.

But should she have sat and done nothing? Or told the MC everything? And what if these revelations made him feel even worse? Or would he have simply stopped listening to her?
You are judging from a distance, but the scene should be considered in the moment

 

[Maviarab]

 

[Adhdclassic]

Mia=Hatefuck if sex happens.

 

[AL.d]

A cynical way to further cleave the relationship between rag and trash. Sooner or later even a diamond cracks.

But should she have sat and done nothing? Or told the MC everything? And what if these revelations made him feel even worse? Or would he have simply stopped listening to her?
You are judging from a distance, but the scene should be considered in the moment

Ah. So according to you, her plan is to let him fall in complete despair, hoping at some point he will crack and she will keep him to herself.

Regardless of the fact this not being a thing, even if that was the case, you do realize that makes her utter trash of a person right? I don't think you are making the argument you think you do....

 

[Sayora]

Ah. So according to you, her plan is to let him fall in complete despair, hoping at some point he will crack and she will keep him to herself.

Regardless of the fact this not being a thing, even if that was the case, you do realize that makes her utter trash of a person right? I don't think you are making the argument you think you do....

I do not evaluate the girls who surround the MC according to biblical principles, which you seem to have seriously taken up. If his girlfriend is evil to others, will offend the weak, but at the same time will sincerely love her partner and be ready to do anything for him, then such a partnership is better than an alliance with a lying, conceited drug addict. We do not live in a black and white world

 

[AL.d]

I do not evaluate the girls who surround the MC according to biblical principles, which you seem to have seriously taken up. If his girlfriend is evil to others, will offend the weak, but at the same time will sincerely love her partner and be ready to do anything for him, then such a partnership is better than an alliance with a lying, conceited drug addict. We do not live in a black and white world

You have moved goalposts so far at this point, you might be needing a second court. "Biblical principles"? Much like your previous posts, I don't really think you understand what that means...

 

[telly1712]

Does Somebody have the goals Lacey Setted For Hersfeld in a Therapy Session ? If i remember Right, the Point to work on her relationship / Marriage was only number 5 or 6.. so somehow of Minor importance… is my Memory correct ?

 

[Maviarab]

I do not evaluate the girls who surround the MC according to biblical principles, which you seem to have seriously taken up. If his girlfriend is evil to others, will offend the weak, but at the same time will sincerely love her partner and be ready to do anything for him, then such a partnership is better than an alliance with a lying, conceited drug addict. We do not live in a black and white world

Seriously, wtf are you actually on about?

1. She isn't evil to anyone. (well, towards the MC is debatable).
2. Loves her partner? So does the succubus...
3. You do realise you can both love someone and treat them terribly? Right? (common theme of the story in case you missed it).

Fuck it...actually going to list for you as you obviously have no clue:

1. Leaves him not once but twice. The second time a complete abandonment.
2. Stays in touch with the succubus ever since the cliff phone call.
3. Will assume she knows of the succubus' 'few relapses' between meeting again and getting married. Says nothing.
4. Starts playing tennis with the succubus as her 'cute friend', knowing why, yet says...nothing to the MC.
5. Gaslights the MC and runs interferance for Lacey the morning of the 'prank'. Knows exactly why yet....says nothing to the MC.
6. The second 'and' third week of Lacey's Jared parties.....completely ignores the MC..oh and...says...nothing...to...the...MC.
7. After the succubus tells her and Mia about her fix the cuck plan...says 'I'll support you'...(btw...doesn't bother telling the MC).
8. Knows about the succubus' 'supposed' brain damage'....shall I bother saying it again?
9. Know's about the succubus' plan to cuck her 'best friend' (you know, the man she loves)...oh...and...yup, you guessed it....
10. Gives the MC a GODAMN PITY FUCK...because the succubus TOLD HER TO!
11. Babysits the MC (because apparently he a child)
12. Deletes the succubus' wonderful reunion conversation with Isaac....
13. Majorly deflects the MC's questions regarding what Mia is up to. Call this a lie of omission if you like. She knew what he was asking.
14. Betrays Lacey and the MC knowing Mia's plan....
15. Tuesday (last day of Act 2)...does NOT want a PITY DATE from the MC (ohh the fucking irony)....

Chronological order for you. All this as supposedly the MC's 'best friend' and someone who 'loves him'. Now, I'm not going to make judgements on people, but personally? I can do without 'friends' like that in my life.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Maviarab]

Does Somebody have the goals Lacey Setted For Hersfeld in a Therapy Session ? If i remember Right, the Point to work on her relationship / Marriage was only number 5 or 6.. so somehow of Minor importance… is my Memory correct ?

Look at them all objectively. The one's at the bottom of the list are more long-term goals. Not things she can fix 'quickly' and 'easily'.

This is assuming she is in therapy.

1. She tells Veronica her appointment is in 2 weeks. (lie..or mistake/confused?)
2. Mia tells MC it's 'next week'. (Lie...or mistake/confused?)
3. She tells Anna it's tomorrow (Lie).
4. She tells MC (same day) it was today (Lie).
5. After her first appointment (and fair, she is wearing what she told the MC she would wear if she had to tell someone)...she barely responds to his first question then completely deflects his second question back to him (all he did was ask if it was a nice office).
6. In one session (usually one hour long)...she seems to have covered 6 different topics at length (according to what she tells other people she has discussed with her therapist).

7. And last but not least, the last Thursday of Act 2,. On this day, she is at work, meets Mia at home (at lunch or just after), has the whole bag of Ket/wtf you doing/here's my real plan discussion (how long did that take?) then the next we see is the MC coming home in the evening and she is not wearing the jeans/sweater outfit but her work outfit...

Did she even go???

 

[anongamer1983]

One thing I will note

Does Somebody have the goals Lacey Setted For Hersfeld in a Therapy Session ? If i remember Right, the Point to work on her relationship / Marriage was only number 5 or 6.. so somehow of Minor importance… is my Memory correct ?

1.) L "Number one, fully rebuild my relationship with Anna."
2.) L "Number two, start doing physical art again."
3.) L "Number three, make a new friend at work."
4.) L "Number four, plan a girl's only weekend getaway for Mia, Anna, Veronica and myself."
5.) L "Number five, help and work with my husband to save and plan for getting our own house."
6.) L "Number six, become a stable and reliable partner in my marriage."
7.)
L "And finally number seven, which is supposed to be a long term goal."
L "Become mentally, emotionally and physically healthy enough that I can be a good mother someday."

 

[Adhdclassic]

One thing I will note


1.) L "Number one, fully rebuild my relationship with Anna."
2.) L "Number two, start doing physical art again."
3.) L "Number three, make a new friend at work."
4.) L "Number four, plan a girl's only weekend getaway for Mia, Anna, Veronica and myself."
5.) L "Number five, help and work with my husband to save and plan for getting our own house."
6.) L "Number six, become a stable and reliable partner in my marriage."
7.)
L "And finally number seven, which is supposed to be a long term goal."
L "Become mentally, emotionally and physically healthy enough that I can be a good mother someday."

3 and 4 scream bad idea.

 

[telly1712]

3 and 4 scream bad idea.

Right, Bad idea…. And number 6 and 7 should be her Major goals… is again selfish oriented goal setting, MC Relation is Of Minor value…my memory was correct…

 

[Maviarab]

3 and 4 scream bad idea.

First thing came to my mind. I'd never let her have another girls night as long as I lived.

Remember, Veronica actually fails the MC twice. In one of her calls, she tells the MC she sent Lacey out on an errand (this...AFTER promising again to not let her out of her sight lol).

Let Lacey have a night out/weekend away with those three? Are you fucking delusional girl???