VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[NewGuy2022]

Getting pretty nervous for tomorrow btw if I understand correctly we will need to play the Bethany date in Act 2 again? I was one of those users that use URM to play the date because the variable was not working.

I abandoned the punishment route once I learned that Lacey actually enjoyed it and was using it as yet another way to manipulate the oblivious MC; I changed to the "no fun" route because that seems to be the only route where you as the player get to subvert Lacey's manipulation. I don't see her as pushing him to other girls to help him; I see this as another means for her to control him while deluding him into thinking she is helping. So, of course, I try to reject them all when I'm allowed.

Having said all that, I wonder how much any of the interactions with the side girls will play out since I've friendzoned all of them except when the developer forced me to have sex with them. If I were allowed, the MC would refuse sex with anyone in this story, especially Lacey; all of them are bad for him. Since we are forced to watch the MC have sex with her, at least the developer could "give the reader something" like refusing intimacy (kissing), insisting upon condom use, and withdrawal. He could explain this away by saying "I don't want to taste another man's semen", "I'm concerned about what diseases I may contract from you", and "I want to protect myself from being chained to you through a pregnancy."

I still am trying to play this to enable the MC to escape from this deathtrap of a life he has. The kinetic nature of the story isn't making my attempts very easy.

 

[Sayora]

I abandoned the punishment route once I learned that Lacey actually enjoyed it and was using it as yet another way to manipulate the oblivious MC; I changed to the "no fun" route because that seems to be the only route where you as the player get to subvert Lacey's manipulation. I don't see her as pushing him to other girls to help him; I see this as another means for her to control him while deluding him into thinking she is helping. So, of course, I try to reject them all when I'm allowed.

No fun is, in my opinion, the only option that's close to reality.
The others seem like a nod to those who like to spice things up and are completely at odds with the image of MC's recent virginity.
However, if we assume that the options were chosen by a slut, then everything falls into place.

Otherwise, the manner of passing is similar to yours.

 

[NewGuy2022]

No fun is, in my opinion, the only option that's close to reality.
The others seem like a nod to those who like to spice things up and are completely at odds with the image of MC's recent virginity.
However, if we assume that the options were chosen by a slut, then everything falls into place.

Otherwise, the manner of passing is similar to yours.

The more I think on this, the more I hope the dev would allow it. The MC likely would be forced to continue sex with Lacey but he could take her advice; "sex and love are two different things." He could show Lacey that sex with her isn't love anymore. He could take the ground rules from her cuck date on the business trip and apply them to his sex with Lacey: nothing with the mouth or face and no creampies because those are tied to intimacy. Then he should do those things with women Lacey knows and will see again but does not like or cannot control.

In the end I still think the MC needs to abandon her and all the others in this game for his own good.

 

[Scaron_the_one]

Can we pinpoint some round appropriate when the update is going to come out? Today's evening, tomorrow morning?

 

[Rozhok]

Can we pinpoint some round appropriate when the update is going to come out? Today's evening, tomorrow morning?

He said "during thanksgiving weekend" in one of the Patreon posts. So since the dev is NA timezone, best case scenario would be sometime today, likely late at night for EU.

I'm thinking it's going to be tommorow, but still hoping for today as I can't wait to play

 

[funnythings3785]

I abandoned the punishment route once I learned that Lacey actually enjoyed it and was using it as yet another way to manipulate the oblivious MC; I changed to the "no fun" route because that seems to be the only route where you as the player get to subvert Lacey's manipulation. I don't see her as pushing him to other girls to help him; I see this as another means for her to control him while deluding him into thinking she is helping. So, of course, I try to reject them all when I'm allowed.

Yeah, I did the punishment route through as well, thinking it would be more of a "learn your lesson" route, but no... for Lacey it was a "Punish me daddy" route where she craved and got sexual excitement out of his anger. There may be some relevance to the story there, how messed up she is if you reflect on her past abuse with her father, but it certainly isn't a route that suggests a "redemption" for her behavior.

From what I have seen, only pressuring her "jealousy" and "insecurity" with the MC is likely to achieve any real result. She needs to be made to feel what he feels. The question is, can she handle it... can she deal with such a barrage of attack on ones self that the MC is dealing with? She never has had to, she never has had to deal with being the victim in this manner... she only knows the abuser in this case.

I would be interesting to see that played out.

 

[daimadochi]

On the subjet of lacey using K.
She told the MC that the first time after mariage she used K was for the bastian incident.
The second time was the night the mc didn't come home.

For the bastian incident she's clear headed and fully functionnal 2 hours after she took it (phone call with mia).
The second time she took it the night before but in the morning we have the "tennis prank" incident.
She even said to the MC that she don't really remember what she was saying to him.

I mean obviously there is a big difference between the 2 times she took K and i can't explain it.
Maybe she lied about beeing under the effects of K for the "tennis prank" incident ?
I don't understand.

 

[NewGuy2022]

On the subjet of lacey using K.
She told the MC that the first time after mariage she used K was for the bastian incident.
The second time was the night the mc didn't come home.

For the bastian incident she's clear headed and fully functionnal 2 hours after she took it (phone call with mia).
The second time she took it the night before but in the morning we have the "tennis prank" incident.
She even said to the MC that she don't really remember what she was saying to him.

I mean obviously there is a big difference between the 2 times she took K and i can't explain it.
Maybe she lied about beeing under the effects of K for the "tennis prank" incident ?
I don't understand.

I firmly believe Lacey is not the helpless brain-damaged woman she claims to be. I feel she plays the "oops" card while knowing full well what she's doing and how things will play out. She is a master manipulator.

 

[funnythings3785]

I firmly believe Lacey is not the helpless brain-damaged woman she claims to be. I feel she plays the "oops" card while knowing full well what she's doing and how things will play out. She is a master manipulator.

That may be, but I am not sure. This isn't an argument about her portrayal, obviously there is plenty of evidence in the story to suggest this, but... the question is are they that or are they writer oversights/errors/etc... or are they legitimate character foreshadows?

At this point, I honestly don't know. When you consider the professors comments, it makes you wonder if they are the former... that he just didn't shore up some of the issues with her character, or... there is the other possibility that he doesn't see that behavior as such and thinks it is perfectly acceptable for her to be this way and not actually be as some of us often conclude her possible intent.

I honestly don't know... but there are serious issues with some of her basic actions and behaviors (outside of the simple train wreck occurrences) that strongly suggests motives not of the honest and caring nature, but... as we have seen the professor claim... she loves him, she cares for him deeply... so I don't know, it is confusing at times.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Just been released to top tiers now.

 

[Rozhok]

Just been released to top tiers now.

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All tiers actually

Give the man 1 dollar for his hard work

 

[mariorossi69cm]

I'm so f*cking scared right now. I don't know why but I have a feeling it's going to hurt this update.

 

[Lady Lydia]

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I'm so f*cking scared right now. I don't know why but I have a feeling it's going to hurt this update.

Errr probably because the two previous Acts seemed to hurt? Let's be real, their is a game called 'Bonds Defiled' in it a character says 'If this is healing, than let it hurt' I am variably certain this is just about the MO for how this story operate, because all the 'Healing' is done from the prospect of corrupting the MC to Lacey's mindset, its not about real healing but corrupting him into getting over all the fucked up shit. Healing by making the MC completely numb to the situation and just accepting the reality imposed on him.

Its why whenever I keep seeing people expecting the MC to get retribution, expect him to leave Lacey I just roll my eyes, it has clearly not been the optic of this story, the opportunity for the MC to leave was Act 1 after Lacey cheated hard on him, from the point he accepted that, its over, he isn't going to leave her, because she can hardly do anything worst, sure bring repeated painful situations upon him, but worst? Nope, so I really don't see how at this point it would be even realistic for him to do so considering he already took that much of a hit and he still with her.

 

[Sayora]

Errr probably because the two previous Acts seemed to hurt? Let's be real, their is a game called 'Bonds Defiled' in it a character says 'If this is healing, than let it hurt' I am variably certain this is just about the MO for how this story operate, because all the 'Healing' is done from the prospect of corrupting the MC to Lacey's mindset, its not about real healing but corrupting him into getting over all the fucked up shit. Healing by making the MC completely numb to the situation and just accepting the reality imposed on him.

Its why whenever I keep seeing people expecting the MC to get retribution, expect him to leave Lacey I just roll my eyes, it has clearly not been the optic of this story, the opportunity for the MC to leave was Act 1 after Lacey cheated hard on him, from the point he accepted that, its over, he isn't going to leave her, because she can hardly do anything worst, sure bring repeated painful situations upon him, but worst? Nope, so I really don't see how at this point it would be even realistic for him to do so considering he already took that much of a hit and he still with her.

There's still a small chance that MC's patience isn't endless. But if not, then... screw this whole thing.
I don't expect the story to be about retribution for lacey, but at least MC being freed from her.
I agree, even if any of the remaining LI options were an alternative, it would still be much better than what's happening to him now.

 

[riichidesu]

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I'm so f*cking scared right now. I don't know why but I have a feeling it's going to hurt this update.

I have been like that all this week, honestly I do not know if I want to play it or just run for the hills to save me some pain. Probably I will just wait to see some more opinions on the new act before doing the jump

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Errr probably because the two previous Acts seemed to hurt? Let's be real, their is a game called 'Bonds Defiled' in it a character says 'If this is healing, than let it hurt' I am variably certain this is just about the MO for how this story operate, because all the 'Healing' is done from the prospect of corrupting the MC to Lacey's mindset, its not about real healing but corrupting him into getting over all the fucked up shit. Healing by making the MC completely numb to the situation and just accepting the reality imposed on him.

Its why whenever I keep seeing people expecting the MC to get retribution, expect him to leave Lacey I just roll my eyes, it has clearly not been the optic of this story, the opportunity for the MC to leave was Act 1 after Lacey cheated hard on him, from the point he accepted that, its over, he isn't going to leave her, because she can hardly do anything worst, sure bring repeated painful situations upon him, but worst? Nope, so I really don't see how at this point it would be even realistic for him to do so considering he already took that much of a hit and he still with her.

I have a feeling Act 3 is going to hurt more than Act 1…

 

[Sayora]

I have a feeling Act 3 is going to hurt more than Act 1…

I highly doubt it. After the first act, it will be extremely difficult to upset me. The only thing I fear is disappointment and wasted expectations.

 

[telly1712]

Unbelievable roller coaster actions at Laceys best....now we learned also about the *other side* - her split personality explains at least some of her hard-to-explain behaviour...

 

[NewGuy2022]

I won't spoil anything for now, and I promised myself I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but...

This update is one of the worst things I have ever read in my life, and I do not mean it as a joke or as an hyperbole.

Writing and story wise it suffers from so much forced drama, characters being completely different (again), being evil for the sake of it and a "healthy" dose of american college values.

Just to give you a glimpse, in the first minutes of the update everything that defines MC and Lacey relationship in act 1 and 2 is thrown under the bus and erased with 6 lines of dialogue.

For the sake of drama the author made some characters irredeemable, for the sake of his spy story there is so much suspension of disbelief needed that it just pulls you out from anything happening.

I won't go into specifics to avoid spoilers until we get a public release, but fuck me this is one of the worst let downs I had for a while, it is a real shame, this could have been a great AVN!

I guess I'll have to wait until I see it for myself but I must admit that what you wrote is pretty much what I expect to see.

 

[Avaron1974]

I won't spoil anything for now, and I promised myself I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but...

This update is one of the worst things I have ever read in my life, and I do not mean it as a joke or as an hyperbole.

Writing and story wise it suffers from so much forced drama, characters being completely different (again), being evil for the sake of it and a "healthy" dose of american college values.

Just to give you a glimpse, in the first minutes of the update everything that defines MC and Lacey relationship in act 1 and 2 is thrown under the bus and erased with 6 lines of dialogue.

For the sake of drama the author made some characters irredeemable, for the sake of his spy story there is so much suspension of disbelief needed that it just pulls you out from anything happening.

I won't go into specifics to avoid spoilers until we get a public release, but fuck me this is one of the worst let downs I had for a while, it is a real shame, this could have been a great AVN!

Dev made it sound like they would have this great love with him having his harem on the side.

Kinda think the dev doesn't know what he wants to do and just decided to make a game about an MC going through a mental breakdown.

It's just depressing as fuck and I don't see it getting any better.

I don't think the dev will be happy until everyone hates the women and the MC jumps off the cliff.