VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 3] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Sir_Lancelot71]

I only have to read the comments to see what was written in the spoiler: A story of true love, painful jealousy, and the difficult journey of learning how to heal and forgive. Nothing is there, and it will not be possible. Too much speaks against it, and even a couples therapist wouldn’t be able to fix it anymore.

 

[Canto Forte]

There is a crux in all of this: Lacey does not let MC off the hook, but she does it to past people who pushed her away from MC
There is a series caled True detective - the Rach McAdams and colin Farrel one, where wanton participation and knowingly drugged girls did not mean anything to the whole business being sex trafficking - that is not a porn shoot set with union workers and intimate coordinators or actual people versed in making their bodies properly fit for scenes of the nature we see in this game - none of it presents like what real, friendly or even humane behavior would look or read like, which ever way you rationalize it.

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[DeviantFun]

Finally got to play this part and have to say...I hate being the "told ya so" guy but...Anyway just a couple of thoughts, since I just finished it.

1. I hope this episode ends any notion of victimhood for "poor" Lacey. I have argued endlessly that she has never been a victim in this story. She always did what she wanted to do. And what she wanted to do was...be the slut to end all sluts. There was no K in this episode. No devious "corruptors" manipulating the poor nun over the years. And yet she once again did what she does best, which is be a slut. Because its part of her, an aspect of her personality. And to make sure everyone gets it finally, she screams it out of her lungs in her psychotic monologue. She does all that shit because she wants to. Ironically, she finally admitted to an answer she has been avoiding when pressed by MC or others, usually resorting to the "I don't know why" excuse. And she only admitted to it when pressed by...her own self. It was on brand for the character and one of the few bright writing moments of the episode. There is only one victim in this story and we are forced to play as him

2. I was wondering how this dev would keep the relationship drama going with the self-imposed rule of no ntr after act 1. I was suspecting he will have to bend the rule, mostly by introducing flashbacks of things that have happened in act 1 but would get revealed later. Dev decided to do something much simpler. He had ntr in this, but decided to make every one in the game call it "not cheating". Making MC look like a delusional idiot for having the same mindset any normal man would have. Anyone who's ever been in a serious monogamous relationship, knows infidelity doesn't involve just the act of sex. Actually sex is just the final stage of infidelity, with many more preceding it. Having every character pretending the common social norms of monogamy don't exist, just looks stupid and knowing the actual reason for it, makes it look even more....

3. Making this couple the pairing of a dude who's casually hallucinating, with a chick having borderline MPD, is a very bad narrative choice. Because it removes any impact for shit that's happening on screen. Now dev has the leeway to show anything he wants for shock value and then just go "SIKE, hahha it was all fake!". It seems he was chomping at the bits to do it, because he already did just that for the finale. Not a fan.

And something non-spoilery for last. I don't think I have played another game on here, where I'm actively avoiding any sex scene the game lets me to. And have to sit through uncomfortably through the ones it doesn't. They are neither hot or sexy, they are just uncomfortable. It feels like I'm manipulating a mentally impaired dude, to keep getting gaslighted through sex, by a group of abusive weirdos. Because that's exactly what is happening. Even the dialogue in them reeks of it, so patronizing and fake.

Just like a comment said, the direction of the story aproaches torture porn at this point. In more ways than one, because even the actual porn in it, looks like torture. It is interesting in a way that you would read a manga or a book with similar themes and a constantly tortured protag. But being a game, the complete lack of player agency, becomes increasingly more annoying.

You know I always argued with you, endlessly.

Between me and you we probably have written 50 of the 200+ pages of this thread.

But I have to sit here and say that you were right, granted, I do not know if the Prof took inspiration from your posts or he had your same thinking.

But the "material" based thinking has lost to your predictions and reading the future.

As the old joke we made months ago, I have to concede the crown, I am just a mere archivist/historian now.

Btw, your point n.2 is absolutely true in my opinion and it actually undermines and changes one of the points the story itself made.

 

[AL.d]

You know I always argued with you, endlessly.

Between me and you we probably have written 50 of the 200+ pages of this thread.

But I have to sit here and say that you were right, granted, I do not know if the Prof took inspiration from your posts or he had your same thinking.

But the "material" based thinking has lost to your predictions and reading the future.

As the old joke we made months ago, I have to concede the crown, I am just a mere archivist/historian now.

Btw, your point n.2 is absolutely true in my opinion and it actually undermines and changes one of the points the story itself made.

I just hope he doesn't pull any of that inspiration from personal experience with a Lacey-like vampire and that's why it aligned (I have had the misfortune). I'd take being an uninspired hack over dealing with something like that any day

On a more serious note, I get why you or anyone else would get the urge to see her as a victim. Because those behaviors usually have their roots in that person actually being a victim in their childhood (as with this story too), the line between victim and predator gets blurred. But if you have to deal with a person like that and don't recognize that at this point, they are the predator, you are fucked. And that is what is happening with the protag in this.

 

[Avaron1974]

Think about this, Lacey gets very horny and handsy, yet she NEVER thinks of his husband nor has any willingness to gets handsy with him, how? why?

Are we not supposed to believe the writing that says that Lacey has no sexual desire towards MC?
Or that ex makes her numb to him? (What?)
Or that Abby magically brainwashed her to not consider him a human being? (What?)

She tells us she knew he was there all the time (coming and going), yet not even once has the impulse to touch him, during the BDSM show she thinks about dildos not him, at the end of the show she is horny but doesn't ask MC to go somewhere and being manhandled neither expresses desire towards him, she jumps straight in with another man.

So it is not a matter of "I did not think it will hurt you", or "I did not realize it because I was high", it becomes a matter of baseline desires..."I did not want you" over this specific thing.

And how can we reconcile this with the fact that even during the gangbangs under K she thought about MC? (which is not a bad addition, and could have been exploited more due to the visual stuff K does).
Was it a lie? Because 2+2 doesn't make 4 anymore.

This gives all the wrong signals and messages to the reader (to MC but he does not realize, because the Prof did not realize I think), so in this situation, all the "these are not attacks against you" told to MC lose any sort of sense.
It is not the problem that you found other people attractive, but in the BDSM club it becomes attractive OVER the MC.

And if you add the justification to the flirting: "he was so different from you", everything starts to crumble again, not because Lacey could have cheated, as I have no problem with trusting her here, but because her desire and sexual attraction (declared by her) were for everyone that asked, but not for MC.
portrayed is on another level.[/ISPOILER]

I didn't even waste time thinking about that because my main point with Lacey has always been she doesn't love the MC.

They are trauma bonded but it can't be love because Lacey doesn't know what love is, she's never experienced it. She's attached to him in the way that the MC is her emotional crutch. He has been since she was a child.

She went from abused child to a heavy drug user and sex addict. She's had no time to develop any emotional maturity or any sort of identity. The MC is her safe space, nothing more.

I can't draw any other conclusion because their relationship is a chaotic mess of her constantly hurting him and her not giving a single fuck until she starts to get push back from other people.

This is mainly a problem with the writing and the constant drama. No actual relationship has been established. We've been told they are a couple and she loves him but she doesn't show it.

Gonna use the word i've repeated so often in this thread but there is a massive disconnect between what the game tells us and what the game shows us.

The only person I do believe has genuine love for the MC is Anna. She's seen him at his lowest when he was suicidal and still stuck by him.

I am sorry I have to disagree here, those things are not automatically connected or related.
Being mouth and rage against Lacey is very different from being SAd (or harassed? what is the right term here?), Cal does not seem to be a small man, she is sort of powerless in that situation, sure she could have been way more assertive but when you are caught off guard all bets are off.

The point I was badly trying to make is they knew it was a trap, they knew what was likely to happen, they planned for it and they all fucked it up.

And that brings me to the biggest problem with how it's being set up.

The dev keeps piling on the drama, it's a constant stream at this point, and all these external influences yet hasn't resolved anything at all in the group. Not one of them is capable of dealing with the external conspiracy while they are all tied up with their own bullshit.

The MC least of all, his sanity is completely gone now.

It's too much going on all at once, the drama influx needs to be reeled in and some of what is already there needs dealing with yet he keeps adding more.

The stuff with Lacey's mother should not be happening yet. That should come up when the MC and Lacey are on solid ground as a couple and capable of dealing with it.

It's not even a twist or shock value now. One of them fucking up is a meme at this point.

 

[JEER0X]

finishing up the update will post my thoughts later tonight probably but i thought this was funny...She said the line

 

[Lady Lydia]

After a few hours to digest I'd say again Act 3 doesn't make any sense, I feel what should have happened, is that after the girl's day, when the MC goes back to the Hotel he should have been when he hallucinated what happened at the end of the chapter at that very point, than fucked off back home like he wanted to do, the 'fun' day didn't work out because the MC refused to let it be fun for him as a form of spite for what happened the previous day, it was a waste of time. So yea instead he should have hallucinated Lacey after having came back to the Hotel, left for home, than everybody rushed to pay him attention followed by that he should have begun going to therapy, started to get better, and the chapter could have ended with the reveal of Lacey's father death, simple as that.

The only two reasons it happens at the end of the Act is because this way Lacey can't be directly blamed for it happening, it happened purely because of the MC suffering a random mental breakdown, and again so it could serve as a cliffhanger hook for the next Act, its very cheap.

Next I really think what the Prof needed for this game is to create fictional magical drugs, because both Ketamine and Ex don't do what is portrayed as doing, basically the Prof wanted a drug that cause specific effects purely for narrative purpose, found some drug that could vaguely fit, and thrown those in, but realistically those drugs don't cause people to act or think the way the Prof make it out to, its clear they wanted a Deus Ex Machina magical 'do whatever the Dev need it to do' drug, but they couldn't be bothered to create them.

Finally, I had a creeping idea that popped in my mind, I thought next Act the MC would get brought back quick at the start of it, but thinking back again... the lawyer's call cause me to suspect, the next Act the MC is heading to the House for Wayward Boys, I think next Act is when the supernatural is going to kick in, he is going to end up in what could be deemed as a House of Good for the purpose of Evil, the flip side of Augusta, where he'll get corrupted, come back and now Lacey will be the one to act as moderator for him rather than the other way around, and the Act will be about him being returned to being a good boy by his girls, redeeming him with the power of love, thus making his relationships with everyone good now and making him fully willing to have a harem / big family with all his girls.

Hell I also suspect the way to Prof intend to justify the characterization by the end of the story revealing some supernatural evil being has been influencing everyone and thus caused everyone to act in ways that don't make any sense in reality for them to do so, effectively giving a massive free pass for every past misdemeanors for everyone involved in the story. Revealing this stretch back all the way to pre-College Lacey leaving the MC, because the MC is too good so the forces of evil wanted to break him and corrupt him, which was the optic all along, and the hallucination wasn't one instead it was a Succubus (because the Lacey at the end reminded me again of Yara) manipulating him into leaving so he'd head to the House for Wayward Boys.

 

[JEER0X]

god are we back on the supernatural crap again?

regardless of what the dev is trying to do over on that other game, i simply don't see how any supernatural crap would work or help the story here it just wouldn't make any since in a game that's already going to act 4

 

[NewGuy2022]

The whole thing with Dianne was perfect, absolutely spot on. Not only did she call Lacey out and hold her accountable but she's seen the same kind of relationship from the MC's side so it's spoken from experience not just ranting.

She's the exact friend that Lacey needs to help her grow.

I'm with you on this. Part of me would like to see Dianne as the actual love interest for the MC but this story has conditioned me to expect the worst of all the characters; I simply am watching Dianne now to see how she will abuse the MC. This outlook is skewing my objectivity in reading the story (I get that) but it's where I am with all this.

I am a bit saddened by the whole Vegas thing mainly with Jeanette. She was one of my faves but the BDSM club really let her down.

I did wonder to myself if Abby was put there just to make Lacey look good in comparison. Abby fucked up mahoosively which took some of the heat of the others.

Good point. I hadn't considered that but it certainly fits. In a way, for me at least she became Act 3's version of what Mia was earlier in the story. And that isn't complementary.

Yue is also making her way to my shit list slowly. I adored her for the first 2 parts but now she's essentially wanting to do to Brandon the same thing Lacey has done to the MC. Her and Brandon have a kind of thing going on and she's chasing the MC. I do find that a bit icky.

I'm on the no-fun route so I'm deliberately refusing anything and everything with anyone (I'd refuse MC sex with Lacey if it were allowed) so I'm not seeing this. I saw her trying, but I kept choosing for the MC to push her away. On my route, the MC set her up with Bradley. I'm not sure how that will work out because we still see her thinking about the MC...

I think Jamie is going to end up as one of my faves. He was super adorable as a guy but now he's leaning more into his feminine side even going to some boobs, I think the now she will be a sweetheart.

I didn't accept Jamie as a LI, either, but I agree that out of everyone in the story he's the only one I haven't seen betray the MC at some point (Dianne, I suppose, too). As I mentioned earlier, I'm watching for that to happen next. I hope it doesn't but hope has not gotten me very far in this story. He (and Dianne, perhaps?) are the only ones other than the therapist whom I suspect might have good intentions still. I just can't trust any of the NPCs in this dev's story; sorry.

I want to like Anna but she did annoy me during the trap fail. She's all mouth and rage against Lacey but the second she needs to show a bit of spine she breaks down and shits herself.

I wrote her off, also along with a few of the others. The betrayals of Anna, Kelly, and Jeanette bothered me the most, I guess because I never expected those. Now I'm conditioned to expect the worst from every NPC in this story. Whenever any of them offers anything that looks positive I try to reject it because I keep waiting for the unseen betrayal that will follow. I must admit that I enjoyed it when the MC rejected Anna in the morning scene in the park. I saw it as a positive step for the MC to assert himself toward healing but I'm not proud that I enjoyed pushing the MC to hurt her that way.

Mia is the friend no one needs. She just brings chaos and amplifies problems that don't need amplifying.

The biggest issue being with so many women is it takes constant effort to keep them all happy and make sure no one is jealous. Having them all in a kind of harem looks great on paper but so few of them have shown themselves to be worth the effort it would take. This is why I keep harping on about the dev needing to start building them up because the longer it keeps going with the friend group drama the less girls the players will want to keep around. Prof needs to realise he's making some of these girls incredibly unlikable and reel it in a bit, especially with Mia and Lacey. Mia right now is like one of the antagonists, any further and he'll be unable to bring her back to a tolerable state.

With the few decisions we've been allowed, I consistently chose to refuse everyone so I'm trying to avoid the harem. I try to avoid the harem because it's Lacey's idea and I'm conditioned now to expect that everything Lacey offers the MC is a Trojan Horse. Even with the MC refusing, I'm still seeing a lot of writing that shows it progressing along that path. Even with every choice I've made clearly showing player preference to "no harem" the dialogue shows the MC talking about how wonderful it would be if he could live with many of the NPCs to "take care of them." Many of the female NPCs appear to want it, to so I'm wondering how the dev will reconcile my player choices (no fun) with the harem he seems to want to build. Part of me realizes he will get his way (he's the dev, after all)

When devs offer player choices but then force content later that ignores or runs counter to those choices, it frustrates me a lot; I feel the choices in those cases were invalidated as irrelevant so why even offer them? I guess the dev wants his product to be a kinetic story but I'm trying to play it like a game. For that reason, this likely won't end the way I'd like it to.

I agree with you about Mia. I frequently see Lacey as an antagonist, too.

He also needs to start resolving some of the drama even if only in the friend group. He keeps piling it on and it's getting overwhelming. 3 updates of constant drama and no time to breath.

I think for his next game he should lean into the drama and do a tragedy instead of trying to push a group romance ark too. Without the nonsense excuses, he clearly knows how to write dramatic stories. If he wasn't trying to keep a handful of relationships going and Lacey's constant excuses it would be a good drama story. Sadly he hasn't quite got the balance between the drama and relationship building right now. It's very heavy on drama and far too light on relationship building.

When choices permit, I'm doing all I can to prevent or destroy any MC relationships with these NPCs because I still am trying to set the conditions for him to leave them all for the right reasons. While I got the ending I wanted for Act 3, it wasn't for the right reason--I don't see the "why" behind what he did as healthy for himself. I get why he did it but that won't help him unless this somehow evokes an epiphany in the minds of the girls. Your tragedy idea is a good one. The dev certainly laid the foundation for it.

It's really a bizarre turn of events when I see Isaac as being a better person and friend than the girls who claim to love him.

 

[funnythings3785]

Wait... are some of you guys talking about Dianne Act 3? In the prior Act, I would agree... she was a good character for the MCs healing...

But after Act 3? The Dianne who wants Lacey to sit on her face, who wants both Lacey and the MC to treat her like trash and humiliate her sexually just like her ex did?

Umm... Dianne in Act 3 is... well... she is bad news, a massive problem, not a good influence, and likely to cause serious issues not only to the MC, but to herself.

 

[Valetudin]

This dudes writing ethos can be summed up as "(little bro after hitting you) runs off screaming to the parents to protect him (from the consequences of his actions), and so when you rock up angry you get the blame for the whole situation, situation repeats".

 

[Lady Lydia]

god are we back on the supernatural crap again?

regardless of what the dev is trying to do over on that other game, i simply don't see how any supernatural crap would work or help the story here it just wouldn't make any since in a game that's already going to act 4

Yet on his previous game the Dev pulled at the very end a switch from supernatural to scifi, so you not seeing how the supernatural crap would work doesn't mean the Dev doesn't have a history of doing whatever they want regardless of making sense.

Next this story is happening within a reality where the supernatural exist, the lawyer that called on the behest of the ex-detective that gave Jared the info about Lacey in College, that is from Augusta, which is a clear supernatural story, so the supernatural already exist within that reality, either accept it or move on.

As for how it wouldn't help the story, have you paid attention to the story at all? The Dev has been systematically destroying the characterization and narrative for dramatic value, at this point the supernatural is the only way to make it work, most people hate either Lacey or Mia or both, others hate the MC, their is variable amount of dislike levied against several of the other characters, its impossible for the characterization and narrative to be fixed within 3 Acts by anything that would feel natural, so the supernatural is just about the only way you can fix anything at this point.

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You missed the point of the 'no fun' path, its about kinky content, or did you miss the game literally telling you that a relationship with Lacey & Multiple Girls is going to happen, it literally says so in the 'description' of what those paths do.

Wait... are some of you guys talking about Dianne Act 3? In the prior Act, I would agree... she was a good character for the MCs healing...

But after Act 3? The Dianne who wants Lacey to sit on her face, who wants both Lacey and the MC to treat her like trash and humiliate her sexually just like her ex did?

Umm... Dianne in Act 3 is... well... she is bad news, a massive problem, not a good influence, and likely to cause serious issues not only to the MC, but to herself.

I think at this point a majority of us might have been skipping unseen text along a significant parts of Act 3, let's be real, I think most of us are basically just in to get a vague sense of completion, we want to see where this end but most of us at this point can't really be bothered to actually pay attention to most of the stuff because our brains can't cope with the bullshit the Prof keep pulling and the unrelenting drama. I don't think during this entire Act I really felt good about anything, I pretty much skipped at least the later therapy sessions because obviously its worthless since its not going to fix anything within the scope of this game, those sessions might as well have been done off screen because the results clearly don't matter, it just confirm some stuff that has been said around here, offer no new insight, sure for the MC maybe, but for us? Nothing new.

Also didn't she said that stuff in a sort dream the MC had? I remember the MC having a dream I think where all his girls say something one after another and that was what Dianne said during the dream, so that might not actually be real but merely his imagination.

 

[48914891]

Working my way through Act 3. I am engaged. Not reading any comments yet. Ready to be crushed, but enjoying the journey.

Hat tip to the professor for sharing this story, however it proceeds. Indifference is the enemy of any author. The professor has fought and won.

Thank you.

 

[funnythings3785]

I think at this point a majority of us might have been skipping unseen text along a significant parts of Act 3, let's be real, I think most of us are basically just in to get a vague sense of completion, we want to see where this end but most of us at this point can't really be bothered to actually pay attention to most of the stuff because our brains can't cope with the bullshit the Prof keep pulling and the unrelenting drama. I don't think during this entire Act I really felt good about anything, I pretty much skipped at least the later therapy sessions because obviously its worthless since its not going to fix anything within the scope of this game, those sessions might as well have been done off screen because the results clearly don't matter, it just confirm some stuff that has been said around here, offer no new insight, sure for the MC maybe, but for us? Nothing new.

Also didn't she said that stuff in a sort dream the MC had? I remember the MC having a dream I think where all his girls say something one after another and that was what Dianne said during the dream, so that might not actually be real but merely his imagination.

Oh I get it, I missed a ton on my play through, so I am not slighting people, it is just what I remembered in that, but you may have shown me something I missed as well. I could have sworn the display of all the girls was one of those... "what are they thinking right now" scenes (kind of like the Janette and Yue scenes from the earlier acts), so if it was simply a "dream" the MC was having, you caught what I missed.

Is it a dream though? That certainly would change some perspective on the various things I saw many of them saying... but it is also kind of odd that the MC would be dreaming that she would be thinking something like that... So I don't know.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Another thing that is my impression but that is never mentioned in the material, is that Lacey uses sex as a reward for Mc, weaponizing it.

I'm mentally prepared for all the hate mail I'll get for saying this, but weaponizing sex is something that many wives do. I'm not excusing it, but it's pretty common in real life. I suppose you could say that husbands retaliate by weaponizing our attention and affection but I believe the statement still stands as valid.

The fact that Lacey does this (and yes I agree she most definitely does this) doesn't make her particularly evil; she's just doing what wives do.

 

[AL.d]

So it is not a matter of "I did not think it will hurt you", or "I did not realize it because I was high", it becomes a matter of baseline desires..."I did not want you" over this specific thing.

100% this. This is the crux of everything in the story if you think about it. I've been saying that since I started playing this. And it's why MC won't escape the torture until the dev allows him to realize that. Which is very doubtful at this point since he has completely regressed since act 1. He doesn't even get angry anymore.

In this update, he has a rare occasion of "normal think". Where he is allowed to think like a normal dude about what is happening to him, instead of the brainwashed cuck the game has forced him to be.

It's the part where he thinks that both the fact that he was present and whatever reaction he had (or lack thereof) to the girls day shit, were irrelevant in the big picture. And that's the truth, they are. What is relevant, is that his wife WANTED TO DO these things, no matter the circumstance and consequence. And that she has been repeatedly shown to need just the bare minimum of stimulus to act on those desires. Again and again.

But the game won't let him ever focus on the crux of matter. Matter being that his wife is a pathological slut. I think he gets a few classic cheater lines, labeling those actions "mistakes", the usual bs. And the game moves on, focusing on his jealousy as the main issue of all things. Probably the most normal emotion you'd expect this dude to have.

Lacey has never been the problem writing-wise, to me she is the most consistent and well written character in the story. The problem is how most other characters (MC most of all), have to be lobotomized in order for dev's preferred dynamic remaining as is.

 

[Lady Lydia]

Oh I get it, I missed a ton on my play through, so I am not slighting people, it is just what I remembered in that, but you may have shown me something I missed as well. I could have sworn the display of all the girls was one of those... "what are they thinking right now" scenes (kind of like the Janette and Yue scenes from the earlier acts), so if it was simply a "dream" the MC was having, you caught what I missed.

Is it a dream though? That certainly would change some perspective on the various things I saw many of them saying... but it is also kind of odd that the MC would be dreaming that she would be thinking something like that... So I don't know.

Alright so at this point I have started to form a theory about the MC, what do the MCs of the two other games by the Prof have in common? They are somewhat of a 'chosen one' type characters, they have some supernatural power to them, what if it is what it is? The MC is dreaming, but he also he effectively getting insight in what those characters are thinking deep inside, so yea Dianne deep inside, like every other girls in this game want to bang the MC and in this case Lacey too.

I mean look I am thinking the MC might not be fully human, I know its a typical porn trope but the intensity of the effect the MC has on women is insane, Yue in Act 3 is outright suffering thru withdrawal from being apart from him, do you think its natural? How about everyone inevitably want to bang him? Is their a single women in the entire game that we've seen which didn't want to bang him? So I am thinking, either he is a Nephillim or a Cambion, either the offspring of an angel or a succubus, I mean what do we know about his parents? Nothing, isn't that strange that we heard nothing about his family? How come he was so close to Lacey but what about his parents? Nothing? I suspect he the offspring of a supernatural being that got adopted by humans and its why his family just about doesn't exist, maybe he was merely raised by a foster family.

It would explain why women go fucking insane over him, he is literally supernaturally attracting them to him, not some bullshit 'oh he is just a really empathic guy' but 'he got supernatural magnetism that attract sexually compatible people' Hell he magically buddy up with Isaac after meeting him, isn't Isaac bi? Maybe that is why, everyone attracted to guys are magically attracted to him, why else would Isaac magically get invested in him to want to sell him his house for cheap? None of that make sense, unless the MC got some mystical power over people.

Now obviously someone could ask 'what about Lacey'? I think the answer is the other way around, I think the MC is a Nephillim and Lacey is a Cambion possibly, its why she keep going for other guys, the human side of her want him, the Demon side of her is repelled to some degree by him. It would explain her 'other side' which clearly in some weird way is both for and against him at the same time, repelled sexually but yet more empathic toward him, I think at one point she suffered a mental breakdown which caused the two sides of her heritage to each get their own separate personalities.

Also her being a Cambion would explain why everyone seem to be similarly obsessed with her, I mean she is just some women, why is everyone fixated on her? She is by no mean the hottest girl in the world but it seem she is the focus of everyone attracted to women's obsession, I mean why does someone like Mia that was traumatized by men still went alongside Lacey to watch her get banged? It doesn't make sense unless Lacey is herself a supernatural pull over everyone that could be attracted to her too, I mean at one point someone should have caught the 'eww' at the taught of fucking a girl that had been with a ton of guys, yet in College it seem every other guys including teachers went for her, its also unnatural for that to have happened, I doubt even the sluttiest real life College girls fuck up to triple digit guys during their College years. Also it related again to Yara, she mentioned in Augusta how her kind can't love, what if Lacey is the offspring of one of her kind and a human? So she isn't naturally able to love but was able to sorta figured it out, if albeit it result in some form of twisted love, it would go in so many ways to explain alot about Lacey.

 

[gilgamesh9]

Did you not see the scene in the

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Yea only scenes i got were with Lacy and the MC and honestly its not enough (sorry im greedy lol) We dont get enough content for all the emotional BS we have to go through in this game. Dont know where i went wrong because i got all the previous act ntr and nts content but this update seemed to have none, other then the Library scene you mention.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Independent of all analysis and theory, is anyone else noticing that you can make choices that should push outcomes along certain azimuth but the dev writes in later dialogue that moves the game in a different direction?

Simply put and not to spoil, my choices up to this point consistently rejected all offers from every girl in the game. I deliberately choose to lower my GG and love points whenever I can (with everyone). Yet the MC later thinks or says things that run counter to the consistent choice-path I'm on.

I realize that I'm in tinfoil hat-mode at the moment with this game and its surprise betrayals but... ...Am I the only one experiencing this?

 

[kedewess]

Like I said, the Lacey hate train here is really cringe and stupid. Some of these people barely paid attention to act 3 and are just here for the hate. And when the update was just released, some were just plain liars as to what she did in act 3.

I dare say that in act 3, she's the only character showing progress. She's still fucked up but we are way past how she was in act 1. MC began his therapy but has a long way ahead of him.

Storywise I'm mostly ok with this update (abby deserved a punch right to the face) but I do feel like that there is not enough sex in it anymore, especially between MC and Lacey