VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 3] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Darth Sidious]

I am subscribed on Patreon (You can subscribe for as little as $1 which surprised me!!!), and I don't intend to share things in the future because I want people to support this dev, but to give an idea about release schedules, it went like the following

2022-2023 -> Generally 2 months between updates for On Distant Shores. For example, 5 updates were were developed between Sept 2022 and May 2023, a 9 month span
2024 -> Took like a 6 month break, but paused payments during it. Finished On Distant Shore final update
Oct 2024 -> Announced new game and was storyboarding. Obviously, Ch 1 for a game typically takes longer than Ch 2 because you have to build the world
January -> OTMT CH 1 released (3 months after starting)
March -> dev announces L & J, saying they came up with the idea and needed to write it while apologizing for the delay to OTMT Ch 2, so spent a month building it's world instead of working on OTMT. Didn't expect a lot of people to like it due to the NTR elements. Mentions that it'll be easier to make because the only thing rendered is the backgrounds which will allow dev more time to focus on writing.
April -> L & J Act 1 released
May -> built a new PC to help with renders, but had issues. Eventually releases Ch2 of OTMT on the last day of May. Dev claims that they will start work on Act 2 of L & J "Next month" (I don't know know if that means a short break was taken or not since this was posted on May 31)
June 25 -> Posts that they are 80% done with the release
July 21 -> L & J Act 2. Claims that it took longer because they expanded the scope (so maybe it was like 1.5 releases worth of content?) to not end on a cliffhanger. Also changed image formats.
July 24 -> Dev mentions that they are struggling to work on OTMT and L & J at the same time. Opens a poll to see if people want to continue work on OTMT or put it on hiatus for another vignette. Claims that they can update much faster for vignettes so they can bounce back and forth between L&J and the other story quickly
July 26 -> People overwhelming voted for the other vignette, meaning OTMT is put on hold while L & J + another vignette is developed. Opens poll for 3 different ideas for vignettes
July 28 -> Post telling vignette won the poll. Says they are building the world out for it now

With all that being said, it sounds to me like the dev is thinking of alternating between the vignettes each month, so 2 months between releases of L & J. I don't know if the dev is going to do another update to L & J while building out the world of the new vignette (I hope so, but I totally understand if that's not what happens)

If I wanted to speculate where the story was going to be at for the cliffhanger when it was "80% done", then I think it would be either Mia with the Ketamine or the Deepfake video. I feel like it's the deepfake though because the end of this act was "Familiar Voice" confirming that the video was indeed a deepfake

Hey thanks for this. I think I will subscribe now. 2-3 months is acceptable, especially for how long each act is.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

I had another funny idea

what if the big bad is Gary?
The security guard Veronica manipulated during the Jared crisis, and this is all a way to get his revenge for having been toyed with

 

[Dragonlight]

I had another funny idea

what if the big bad is Gary?
The security guard Veronica manipulated during the Jared crisis, and this is all a way to get his revenge for having been toyed with

Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a security guard scorned

 

[boboqwe]

This is just mind-blowing. How does the developer write dialogues so masterfully?! When it seemed that the breakup between the main character and his wife was inevitable, everything returned to normal. And this happened three times. And this work of art definitely needs the horror tag. I was really scared. At the end of Act 2, I am tormented by the question, why was this idiotic video needed?

 

[boboqwe]

Before I read this novel, I thought I was developing a dark, scary game. I was very wrong, love and jealousy plunged me into such depression that a week after reading it, I still think about it.

 

[Starboy831]

Not exaggerating when I say this is the best NTR story game I have played. This might sound like a lie but I legit play these kinda games not for the sex but for the story. I like dramas like these. The sex is not too direct and not the MAIN focus although it does show up a lot. I like the whole thing going on with MC and FL, its cool and interesting.

As someone who has been into a relationship before and got cheated on, I relate to the mc a LOT. I GET pissed when he does, sad when he does, etc. I love the growing up the characters do, unlike most ntr games where its just pure sex scenes and corruption. God I love ntr dramas but hate corruption so much.

I hope Act 3 comes soon, I really hope so. I usually never do pay for games because most people kinda suck at or are just lazy at the story. Its all sex this sex that. For this one, I would genuinely pay money and subscribe on patreon for early access or earlier release date, I need Act 3 soon. The story is so damn good, keep this up Author

 

[DeviantFun]

I guess I just see it as a skill issue. Present Lacey is just scary good. Not even just with MC, she is practically playing with her food in the whole group. Only Diane seemed immune, but with their last meeting Lacey seems to have found some buttons even there. I think her interactions with MC about the jealousy thing, have some of the best writing in the game. She uses dialectic to bring him to her preferred viewpoint from the exact opposite side. And the fool thinks he arrived there on his own.

100% She is a skilled manipulator, we have seen it again and again.
Her tactic is usually in dangling a carrot in front of the person she wants to manipulate.
With MC the carrot is love and weaponized sex, with Kelly and the Pimp is MC.
She is kinda pimping him out.

edit: I am going through the game again quickly to see if I missed any typo or grammar error in my corrections, and holy fuck the worst manipulation tactic is done to Jamie, how could I gloss over that? Am I getting used to it so it doesn't register?
Play the museum date and see for yourself.

But I will give you freshman Lacey was definitely more unstable. I can see how even Mia's blunt manner could have worked at first. But after her first college era, I'm certain she was using Mia's prodding as an excuse.

If you think about it, Mia was more of an obsessed cuckold than a pimp. I'm picturing her on her cuck chair while Lacey is cock-juggling, eyes wide like a perv with her phone in hand. When she called MC that, I was like it takes one to know one.

Oh Lacey doesn't even use it as an excuse at that point, it had become a game for her, the need to please her pimp and her wanting to win the game and "experience new things" become the main motivators.
As I said before, she was having way more fun than it is admitted.

But! she was fully aware that she was hurting MC from the start.
L "The first time I had sex..."
L "I knew I was hurting you."

And she was for the whole run
L "I knew what I was doing would hurt you if you ever found out."
L "You were right..."
L "I just didn't care about anything but what I wanted."
L "How you felt was never inside my mind when I made my decisions."
L "I just made them."

So I hope we can collectively stop talking about accepting this, because none of it is acceptable.

Haha, good take on the pimp, I wish she at least worked as a fluffer, it would have made the situation more interesting.

 

[Lestrouduc]

100% She is a skilled manipulator, we have seen it again and again.
Her tactic is usually in dangling a carrot in front of the person she wants to manipulate.
With MC the carrot is love, with Kelly and the Pimp is MC.
She is kinda pimping him out.



Oh Lacey doesn't even use it as an excuse at that point, it had become a game for her, the need to please her pimp and her wanting to win the game and "experience new things" become the main motivators.
As I said before, she was having way more fun than it is admitted.

But! she was fully aware that she was hurting MC from the start.
L "The first time I had sex..."
L "I knew I was hurting you."

And she was for the whole run
L "I knew what I was doing would hurt you if you ever found out."
L "You were right..."
L "I just didn't care about anything but what I wanted."
L "How you felt was never inside my mind when I made my decisions."
L "I just made them."

So I hope we can collectively stop talking about accepting this, because none of it is acceptable.

Haha, good take on the pimp, I wish she at least worked as a fluffer, it would have made the situation more interesting.

Yes, I completely agree that what she did is totally unacceptable.
I've been reading all your comments from the start, and while I agree with most of the opinions about Lacey, Mia, etc., I really think you're being way too hard on MC because, honestly, after everything he went through with that slut (because yes, despite her very difficult past, she had a lot of fun after college and loved getting wasted all the time),
Who wouldn't be losing it at the risk of looking weak or like a loser?
Anyone would have already divorced and left with Kelly... And yes, I say Kelly and not Anna (unfortunately for her) because now Anna is too deeply entangled in the web of the two spiders: Lacey and Mia.
Of course, if that happens, the party is over and Love and Jealousy ends there... unless... unless we can do that towards the end, leaving us the choice, and for me that would be the icing on the cake after reading this extraordinary story twice.
Thank you all, and especially DeviantFun, for commenting on this game as an adult and not as an idiot for adult games.
And finally, thank you to the Prof... I can't wait for the sequel!

 

[DeviantFun]

Yes, I completely agree that what she did is totally unacceptable.
I've been reading all your comments from the start, and while I agree with most of the opinions about Lacey, Mia, etc., I really think you're being way too hard on MC because, honestly, after everything he went through with that slut (because yes, despite her very difficult past, she had a lot of fun after college and loved getting wasted all the time),
Who wouldn't be losing it at the risk of looking weak or like a loser?
Anyone would have already divorced and left with Kelly... And yes, I say Kelly and not Anna (unfortunately for her) because now Anna is too deeply entangled in the web of the two spiders: Lacey and Mia.
Of course, if that happens, the party is over and Love and Jealousy ends there... unless... unless we can do that towards the end, leaving us the choice, and for me that would be the icing on the cake after reading this extraordinary story twice.
Thank you all, and especially DeviantFun, for commenting on this game as an adult and not as an idiot for adult games.
And finally, thank you to the Prof... I can't wait for the sequel!

Hey thanks for the kind words, there were indeed a lot of good posts (and posters) that made the discussion great and helped shape my thoughts.

On MC: I know I am hard on him, he has his flaws but he is definitely a victim of the situation, of Lacey, of the pimp and most importantly of his kindness and compassion.
So when I am hard on him it actually comes from frustration over his inability to move, he also had a solution at his fingertips, same as Lacey, and yet he constantly takes the wrong path.

I don't want to make it sound like I am victim blaming, because I don't blame him for that choice, while I do blame Lacey for hers (she does as well).

His main problem, which is probably to drive the story forward, is inaction.
I don't mind people being angry if the anger is well directed (being angry and taking it out on the wrong person is not great), I do mind people whimpering.

But there are several other things that make me want to kick his ass:

• He doesn't know how to choose or wear a suit, look at the shoulders, you can fit a thumb over the excess padding (mostly on the right one), pick a smaller size my guy.
• Wearing a suit doesn't mean you're an asshole, just a professional.
• His pecs are developed wonderfully and yet his tris and bis look like a kid from Biafra, I can understand being pec dominant but what the actual fuck?
• You don't do budgets MONTHLY, they are done YEARLY! A company is not a fucking household, you moron.
• His flirting in the office is just too creepy, my man please, you're a walking HR nightmare.

I feel Anna could still be a good choice but she has been in the friend zone for too long.
Kelly is a good choice but now she works for him, I understand the allure of your PA assisting your dick but that is a recipe for disaster, believe you me .

So far my favourites LIs are:

• Kelly
• Anna
• Bella
• Veronica (I know, I know...)
• Jamie (I just want to see if we can slam some 1500cc in there)

I would add Dianne but we don't know yet

 

[Fmedic]

First I want to State that this post is not to peeve anyone off, just my thoughts/frustrations

I read through the post yesterday and lost interest in the amount of "frustration" dedicated to a timeline that had Lacey leaving Issac 15 minutes or a day after Anna Called. She still left Issac for MC and cleaned up.

The Frustration for me lies with:
1. The reader can NOT control this story. Sure you can choose who you have lunch or foreplay with and possibly gain love points, but it doesn't make significance changes the scope of the story like other stories. IE:Jealousy Date, if you to continue it (uugghh) it only changes some narrative. Same with the king for a weekend, only changes some narrative.
2. Mia (pimp) created this cesspool and destroyed a half dozen lives. Yet she is treated like an angel. Lacey went to college found some comforts in K and Alcohol but still was thinking about MC and not involved with anyone. (I believe through her sophomore year) Junior year (or whenever) along come the pimp. Mia admits that it was very hard to get Lacey started even masturbating. Lacey was reluctant to try the dildo, Mia states that it took her a long time to move on from that. Lacey stayed reluctant until the hand job and still was reluctant to move to the next level (Bj's I think - I just can't re-watch the lessons because I have trouble with reality and cartoon characters). The rest is history. Mia then wants to hurt MC with the lessons at a lunch, because she hates to share, yet she shared Lacey with 100s of guys instead of just MC but POOF falls for MC after a 1 liner during that lunch and feels bad for what she is going to do to him.
3. There is no way this can ever end good. Lacey's past will never go away. For Gods Sake, Barty found her videos of her college time on the internet and he's an idiot. It's only time before MC gets crushed by the videos that other people took and posted. The pictures were hard enough for MC, the videos (proven) will set him off in a rage again.

It seems this story is highly unrealistic, no one on any site this story is on would still be with Lacey. Most through in the towel after a few "lessons" from Mia (except for some underage kids that shouldn't be on these sites just wanting to see pixelated porn)

I do have a thought of where DEV is going because of several references, actions and statements from ACT 1 and 2 by several characters about MC and Lacey's future. I'm not sure if I want to tell it because if I'm right, I've blown DEV future story, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've also thought of a pretty good alternate story that would fix Lacey and keep all of DEVs story lines and paths.

Please remember that I don't want to peeve anyone off, just venting my frustrations

 

[anongamer1983]

I do have a thought of where DEV is going because of several references, actions and statements from ACT 1 and 2 by several characters about MC and Lacey's future. I'm not sure if I want to tell it because if I'm right, I've blown DEV future story, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've also thought of a pretty good alternate story that would fix Lacey and keep all of DEVs story lines and paths.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on it! Feel free to PM if you don't feel comfortable sharing on the thread!

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I do have a thought of where DEV is going because of several references, actions and statements from ACT 1 and 2 by several characters about MC and Lacey's future. I'm not sure if I want to tell it because if I'm right, I've blown DEV future story, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've also thought of a pretty good alternate story that would fix Lacey and keep all of DEVs story lines and paths.

Share it, c'mon. We have been throwing theories left and right, someone has to have get it right or at least partially right. Its just fun at this point and dosent take the surprise of the reveal away. At worst we would be like "X/whoever got it right".

 

[CrysusPariah2]

First I want to State that this post is not to peeve anyone off, just my thoughts/frustrations

I read through the post yesterday and lost interest in the amount of "frustration" dedicated to a timeline that had Lacey leaving Issac 15 minutes or a day after Anna Called. She still left Issac for MC and cleaned up.

The Frustration for me lies with:
1. The reader can NOT control this story. Sure you can choose who you have lunch or foreplay with and possibly gain love points, but it doesn't make significance changes the scope of the story like other stories. IE:Jealousy Date, if you to continue it (uugghh) it only changes some narrative. Same with the king for a weekend, only changes some narrative.
2. Mia (pimp) created this cesspool and destroyed a half dozen lives. Yet she is treated like an angel. Lacey went to college found some comforts in K and Alcohol but still was thinking about MC and not involved with anyone. (I believe through her sophomore year) Junior year (or whenever) along come the pimp. Mia admits that it was very hard to get Lacey started even masturbating. Lacey was reluctant to try the dildo, Mia states that it took her a long time to move on from that. Lacey stayed reluctant until the hand job and still was reluctant to move to the next level (Bj's I think - I just can't re-watch the lessons because I have trouble with reality and cartoon characters). The rest is history. Mia then wants to hurt MC with the lessons at a lunch, because she hates to share, yet she shared Lacey with 100s of guys instead of just MC but POOF falls for MC after a 1 liner during that lunch and feels bad for what she is going to do to him.
3. There is no way this can ever end good. Lacey's past will never go away. For Gods Sake, Barty found her videos of her college time on the internet and he's an idiot. It's only time before MC gets crushed by the videos that other people took and posted. The pictures were hard enough for MC, the videos (proven) will set him off in a rage again.

It seems this story is highly unrealistic, no one on any site this story is on would still be with Lacey. Most through in the towel after a few "lessons" from Mia (except for some underage kids that shouldn't be on these sites just wanting to see pixelated porn)

I do have a thought of where DEV is going because of several references, actions and statements from ACT 1 and 2 by several characters about MC and Lacey's future. I'm not sure if I want to tell it because if I'm right, I've blown DEV future story, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've also thought of a pretty good alternate story that would fix Lacey and keep all of DEVs story lines and paths.

Please remember that I don't want to peeve anyone off, just venting my frustrations

Feel free to share your theories and suggestions, there are plenty going around already, that’s one of the reasons that make this story so entertaining

I don’t think this story is for the immature or the the perverse, because let’s be honest, sex isn’t really the focus here, just a vehicle for the plot.
Neither is it meant for vanilla or NTR fan

This is a VN for the broken and the damaged, for people who have been betrayed and hurt, people who also have regrets, people who, in one way or another can relate and empathise with the gut wrenching emotions this story provokes, whether it be through their own experiences or someone in their lives

 

[DeviantFun]

First I want to State that this post is not to peeve anyone off, just my thoughts/frustrations

I read through the post yesterday and lost interest in the amount of "frustration" dedicated to a timeline that had Lacey leaving Issac 15 minutes or a day after Anna Called. She still left Issac for MC and cleaned up.

I get it, I do, you are still discounting why that is important to people.
The matter is not that Lacey left Isaac and when, the matter is what Lacey was doing while the man she destroyed was about to kill himself and how lucky Anna decided to call.

If she didn't call the fucking pimp would have put the phone down or even if Lacey saw the messages she could have ignored them, like she did with all the previous ones.

Plus it was another uncovering of lies, Lacey tells MC she was in withdrawal, the reality was that she was still half high and dripping with Isaac's cum.
Again, while the man she "loves" was about to die, destroyed by her abuse.

So there is a bit more emotional weight there.

The Frustration for me lies with:
1. The reader can NOT control this story. Sure you can choose who you have lunch or foreplay with and possibly gain love points, but it doesn't make significance changes the scope of the story like other stories. IE:Jealousy Date, if you to continue it (uugghh) it only changes some narrative. Same with the king for a weekend, only changes some narrative.
2. Mia (pimp) created this cesspool and destroyed a half dozen lives. Yet she is treated like an angel. Lacey went to college found some comforts in K and Alcohol but still was thinking about MC and not involved with anyone. (I believe through her sophomore year) Junior year (or whenever) along come the pimp. Mia admits that it was very hard to get Lacey started even masturbating. Lacey was reluctant to try the dildo, Mia states that it took her a long time to move on from that. Lacey stayed reluctant until the hand job and still was reluctant to move to the next level (Bj's I think - I just can't re-watch the lessons because I have trouble with reality and cartoon characters). The rest is history. Mia then wants to hurt MC with the lessons at a lunch, because she hates to share, yet she shared Lacey with 100s of guys instead of just MC but POOF falls for MC after a 1 liner during that lunch and feels bad for what she is going to do to him.
3. There is no way this can ever end good. Lacey's past will never go away. For Gods Sake, Barty found her videos of her college time on the internet and he's an idiot. It's only time before MC gets crushed by the videos that other people took and posted. The pictures were hard enough for MC, the videos (proven) will set him off in a rage again.

It seems this story is highly unrealistic, no one on any site this story is on would still be with Lacey. Most through in the towel after a few "lessons" from Mia (except for some underage kids that shouldn't be on these sites just wanting to see pixelated porn)

I do have a thought of where DEV is going because of several references, actions and statements from ACT 1 and 2 by several characters about MC and Lacey's future. I'm not sure if I want to tell it because if I'm right, I've blown DEV future story, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I've also thought of a pretty good alternate story that would fix Lacey and keep all of DEVs story lines and paths.

Please remember that I don't want to peeve anyone off, just venting my frustrations

1. True, the branching is not actual branching, more like some side stepping here and there for addiyional content. I don't have much of a problem with it, I follow the story the author wants to make, I agree that with more MC choices and call to action it could be even more engaging. (like a choice to cut contacts with the fucking pimp)
2. What can I say, that is bafflling to almost everyone, it is unnatural and insane, even the "sane" perople in the story treat that human scum as a good person and friend. Considering that only we as players know the full truth, it is insane to think how that is possible. Even Anna doesn't talk to her for 1 week after the messages, 1 week, only a fucking week after what she has done to the man you love? After how she spoke to him? But when Lacey brings Lorenzo in a bathroom and is innocent for the first time in her life you blow up?
3. You're right, it can't, it can only end with MC doesn't forgive Lacey but stays with her or not forgiving and leaving, but you know, the over the top therapy talk and so on makes me think we will have a "forgiveness" outcome.

Also, spill the beans man, I gave a fuckton of predictions about the king weekend and I was wrong, so.

 

[AL.d]

I get it, I do, you are still discounting why that is important to people.
The matter is not that Lacey left Isaac and when, the matter is what Lacey was doing while the man she destroyed was about to kill himself and how lucky Anna decided to call.

If she didn't call the fucking pimp would have put the phone down or even if Lacey saw the messages she could have ignored them, like she did with all the previous ones.

Plus it was another uncovering of lies, Lacey tells MC she was in withdrawal, the reality was that she was still half high and dripping with Isaac's cum.
Again, while the man she "loves" was about to die, destroyed by her abuse.

So there is a bit more emotional weight there.

1. True, the branching is not actual branching, more like some side stepping here and there for addiyional content. I don't have much of a problem with it, I follow the story the author wants to make, I agree that with more MC choices and call to action it could be even more engaging.
2. What can I say, that is bafflling to almost everyone, it is unnatural and insane, even the "sane" perople in the story treat that human scum as a good person and friend. Considering that only we as players know the full truth, it is insane to think how that is possible. Even Anna doesn't talk to her for 1 week after the messages, 1 week, only a fucking week after what she has done to the man you love? After how she spoke to him? But when Lacey brings Lorenzo in a bathroom and is innocent for the first time in her life you blow up?
3. You're right, it can't, it can only end with MC doesn't forgive Lacey but stays with her or not forgiving and leaving, but you know, the over the top therapy talk and so on makes me think we will have a "forgiveness" outcome.

Also, spill the beans man, I gave a fuckton of predictions about the king weekend and I was wrong, so.

Game very obviously pushes the forgive and forget angle, even mentions it on the summary blurb.

It becomes even more frustrating when you can tell characters behave in nonsensical ways to serve that direction. I've said it before, it makes no sense for MC to almost exclusively focus his angst on the college years. He has exchanged vows with a woman, who has repeatedly engaged in behavior that takes a huge dump on them. It makes no sense to focus on her college past when there is plenty to focus during the damn marriage. I get that MC fucking off would lead to a game over, but game could at least have him focusing his angst on that shit, instead of the past. It doesn't and those issues get almost immediately resolved by Lacey saying sorry in a single convo and they move on to phone sex or something.

You can tell it's deliberate, otherwise the narrative of new and improved Lacey can't be sold. So the focus has to be on the college years, to avoid the obvious reaction of "you just cucked me yesterday despite me pleading not to, wtf do you mean it's different now?"

I just hope it offers some meaningful branching as it progresses. Not interested in keeping them together, actually taking any chance I get to drop points and avoid non-forced scenes. Tbh, I'm fine with most of those assholes from the main cast, ending up alone and miserable, including MC. Just give me a happy family ending with the bulky bro and the cute asian instead.

 

[Maviarab]

I am tormented by the question, why was this idiotic video needed?

To get the MC to leave her, leaving her vunerable to relapsing again which means she can be easily controlled. It's not difficult, it's spelled out for you.

Please remember that I don't want to peeve anyone off, just venting my frustrations

No one will be upset, we have a lot of fun banter trashing the characters, motivations and how fucking incredibly stupid they all are lol.

It becomes even more frustrating when you can tell characters behave in nonsensical ways to serve that direction.

This. Pretty much like every western horror film of the last 20 years. Stupid people, doing stupid things in order to progress a stupid plot. Like I keep saying, it's a fun story but how anyone can actually praise the writing is beyond me.

Not interested in keeping them together, actually taking any chance I get to drop points and avoid non-forced scenes.

 

[AL.d]

To get the MC to leave her, leaving her vunerable to relapsing again which means she can be easily controlled. It's not difficult, it's spelled out for you.

No one will be upset, we have a lot of fun banter trashing the characters, motivations and how fucking incredibly stupid they all are lol.

This. Pretty much like every western horror film of the last 20 years. Stupid people, doing stupid things in order to progress a stupid plot. Like I keep saying, it's a fun story but how anyone can actually praise the writing is beyond me.

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The character writing is far superior to most games in that genre. The plot though, is full of holes, inconsistencies and very kinetic so far

 

[rhune]

The character writing is far superior to most games in that genre. The plot though, is full of holes, inconsistencies and very kinetic so far

I actually agree with you The plot is definitely all over the place — full of holes, logic-breaking choices, and events that feel engineered just to keep pushing emotional buttons. But that’s kind of the point, isn’t it?


If we’re saying the character writing is far superior to most games in the genre, it’s because the dev knows exactly how to trigger extreme emotional reactions. Not by crafting a flawless narrative arc, but by throwing characters into situations designed to maximize discomfort, pain, humiliation, or desperation — often at the cost of plot coherence.


So no, I wouldn’t praise the “writing” in a traditional, literary sense. But I do think the author understands emotional manipulation better than most AVN writers — and whether that’s a strength or a flaw probably depends on what you’re looking for in a game.


Personally, I think the characters feel vivid because the narrative doesn’t care about realism — it just cares about provoking a visceral reaction. And if that’s the goal, mission accomplished.

 

[DeviantFun]

I actually agree with you The plot is definitely all over the place — full of holes, logic-breaking choices, and events that feel engineered just to keep pushing emotional buttons. But that’s kind of the point, isn’t it?


If we’re saying the character writing is far superior to most games in the genre, it’s because the dev knows exactly how to trigger extreme emotional reactions. Not by crafting a flawless narrative arc, but by throwing characters into situations designed to maximize discomfort, pain, humiliation, or desperation — often at the cost of plot coherence.


So no, I wouldn’t praise the “writing” in a traditional, literary sense. But I do think the author understands emotional manipulation better than most AVN writers — and whether that’s a strength or a flaw probably depends on what you’re looking for in a game.


Personally, I think the characters feel vivid because the narrative doesn’t care about realism — it just cares about provoking a visceral reaction. And if that’s the goal, mission accomplished.

All true and I agree, still, sometimes it goes over the top when it is not needed.

I know you need some porn logic to kick in, else you might not bring the story forward, but as AL.d said there is a LOT of unexplored stuff even in the present, that gets resolved with "I know I did that, I am sorry" OR in the discussion about Damian by a fucking joke like "my work is cut out for me" OR when Isaac is invited into the house we get the remora speech (that convo has many more issues).
We know MC is like this because he is an abuse victim, it would still be nice if Lacey needed to put a bit more effort.

You don't need the black dildo (which is also a weird thing to associate btw) when you created characters that have emotional hangups on several things, just use those. (here for example you could explore how red bra night reminds MC of Isaac and while he is still willing to do it for Lacey he suffers, no dildo needed)
You don't need new videos or the big bad lurking where there could be videos already present in the story, use your world building to push the story forward.
Look even a old college "pal" that started leaking stuff if you really wanted an external factor.

Also AL.d you are always discounting the damage of abandonement, I am not joking when I say it is one of the most damaging thing that can happen to someone, add to that the junior year shenanigans and you get the perfect storm.
So yeah it should be a more balanced mix between past and present, in act 2 the present isn't brought to light too much.
Only Dianne and MC in a dream bring it up and we stil get the fucking bikini and black dress.
I would argue that also the orange dress should be thrown.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I know you need some porn logic to kick in, else you might not bring the story forward, but as @AL.d said there is a LOT of unexplored stuff even in the present, that gets resolved with "I know I did that, I am sorry" OR in the discussion about Damian by a fucking joke like "my work is cut out for me" OR when Isaac is invited into the house we get the remora speech (that convo has many more issues).

Im doing the list that mentioned the other day. Gimme some time.