Ren'Py - Love & Sex Second Base [v24.5.1d] [Andrealphus]

Love and Sex: Second Base.

God do I have an interesting love/hate relationship with this game.

Its the first visual novel type game I ever played, and man did I sink many many hours into this. I love it because the writing is good, the (very rarely awakward) voice acting that really adds om to the flavor, and the great assortment of beautifully drawn girls that this game offers.

Going in blind this game is wild. Unexpected bad things will happen. The natural and best way to go baout this game is to first play it blindly. Then you go and look up where you went wrong. Why did this happen? Why did that end badly? Then for the next times around you will be prepared to face anything.

Now the "hate" part of my relationship. Its really just I WANT MORE!! MORE!! MOREEEE!! Every time there is an update I go right back in to find all the new things, all the new interactions, wether they are 4+ character fuckfests or just simple encounters in the street. It is THAT good.

KEEP IN MIND THE GIRL PROTAGONIST DOESN'T HAVE MUCH CONTENT YET

One of the best I've played and easily in my top 5. There are loads of unique girls that satisfy different kinks or preferences. Nothing too out there like scat or bestiality of course but there are fitness buffs, gamer girls, a devout Christian you can corrupt, an adopted younger sister, and many more. However, there are two things holding it back from a 5 star review for me.

First, the art style for some girls can be inconsistent depending on the scene. While there's a lot of great art to be found, especially from the newer stuff, some girls who normally look great may have a sex scene where they look poorly drawn, have weird proportions or simply look like a different person. I'm sure this is due to artstyle changes over the course of the games development and the sheer amount of girls you can fuck, but it can be jarring at times.

Secondly, it's way too easy to be locked out of certain girls, harems, or events. Maybe this is more of a me problem since I'd rather date every girl in a porn game instead of doing multiple new game+ runs just to see this girl who doesn't appear if I go too far with another, nor do I like being locked out of work because I fucked two girls too close to eachother and now I have to wait a week or so with barely any money or else a scene will play where one of them leaves the game. But even if I did, there are some girls or scenes that are way too easy to accidentally miss out on because I progressed something that I thought was unrelated to them.

IMO, the best way to play this game in its current form, given the second problem, is to play the game blind once, avoiding this girl named Kylie until late game when she's easier to manage, make a new save every couple of days in case you fuck up and need to avoid a breakup scene, and only marry someone when you're ready to start over in NG+. At this point I'd look on the wiki for the girls you missed out on and either focus on them or try and make every girl dateable at the same time. Emma is by far the easiest to fuck up so read the wiki thoroughly if you want her.

Been playing this for years, really love it, and really hate it. To be clear this is one of the absolute best games. But only three stars due to it being one of the most frustrating games to ever play.

Graphics - superb, tonnes...I mean a million miles of content.
Story - superb, its engaging and keeps your interest chasing different girls and figuring things out.
Sex scenes - tonnes of content, well done, excellent art, lots of different content for everyone.

A few milfs (not enough for me) hot chicks everywhere to a little plump, to thin, to big tits, little tits, rocker girls, office girls, hot Milf, Rich girls, Hookers...tonnes of content, perhaps too much.

So the three star rating - You have to use the guide and it is indepth, hard to figure out and honesly I have no idea how anyone does it without using cheats. Many of the triggers are not easy to figure out, and you can easily lose girls or get locked out of content because you didn't do one thing in order or missed a trigger...causing you to pull your hair out. Game play is very long, and by the time you figure out you missed something...might as well start over and you just want to turn the game off and go to bed.

Days and days of content. Easily a 5 star game and the best game on the site of this genre if the dev did one thing. A WARNING SYSTEM. Warning of lock out situations, potential game changing situations, that allows you to go and have a look and fix things if you want. So many playthroughs with the guide open and I still have yet to be able to make a clean playthrough for a couple key ladies.

As it is now, amazing game, days of content, but very frustrating and you spend more time reading the guide to understand the incredible calculations you have to make to progress a girl. (while not realizing that you are missing another one you also wanted because FUCKING Angela shows up before I finished the siscon events...sigh. Maybe I shouldn't have been focusing on Morgan so she didn't disappear as well.

Amazing work, and very dedicated DEV. Please just a warning system...please.

Okay, that was a long game by my current standards... A few hours immersed in the game, and I have to say that the game has a lot of content and is interesting, with nice characters.

Point by point, let me explain...

1. M/F protag - This game is a harem game, designed to be played with a male protag. When you try to play as Bree, you realize that.
Bree MC is totally overlooked, with a small fraction of the male MC's content. I wouldn't want to do a fem protag to end up like that, really.
But the male MC is decent, I found him interesting and you can see a decently built personality despite him making some silly comments...

2. Lots of cuties for romance - I think the game's diversity is amazing. I like the list of possible romances, and if you want a harem/dating sim, this one is high on the list. (Except for point 3...)

3. Terrible design - ''The girls need to be in a specific location at a specific time for a specific activity at a specific time of year, while you're juggling a bunch of minor stats and a massively slow passage of time...''
Does that sound bad? Yes, that sucks. The game has a lot of content, lots of interesting girls to romance, and a decent art style but this is overshadowed by a horrible design.
To get the romances you need to take care of the micromanagement of the MC's statistics, a slow passage of time and requirements for HIGHLY restrictive events.
You can't play this without constantly looking at the wiki, also checking every step of the other storylines because at any moment a route can be blocked or it can be diverted to a path you don't want.
Infinite hours to advance in a slow and tiring way...
In game design, if you spend a lot of energy and time to receive little, that's a bad design.

4. Cute but inconsistent art - This game must have 3 or 4 art styles from what I've noticed. Which breaks the immersion a lot... Seriously.

I thought I'd add an addendum on the pregnancy system, but I haven't seen any of that yet. And from what I've seen in comments and other reviews, this is not very immersive and is not the focus of the game... I'll just stick to the points mentioned above.

Conclusion - I thought about giving it 2 or 3 stars... But I decided to give it 3 because I see the game has a lot of content and the dev seems to really work hard.
Hard work and regular content is something I consider A LOT, especially given that most devs are abysmally slow despite being paid large sums of money.
This game is good, but this is obscured by an abysmal design that prevents you from enjoying the actual content of the game.

Love & Sex killed me through exhaustion...

I had seen this game recommended once and again but never felt the urge to play it.
For some reason now was the moment.
Graphically I can say is one of my favourite games on this site, lots of types to choose from and visually appealing. Makes you focus on specific girls(in my case)
But the things I really liked end here.
The game mechanics are playable, not bad or amazing, but it becomes easy to understand what you have to do. But the specific events to advance with the girls, most of them even with the hints in-game is hard to know what exactly to do without searching elsewhere. I am also not a big fan of day specific events, when those events are at a specific hour, like one where you have to caught one of the girls in the arcade, but she is only there for a short time in that day. And other events, even following the hints and guides here and there you have to try multiple times for it to really work

I understand you have to get effects for your actions but the pace of some girls is so much slower than others that if you want to pursue the spicy content with the majority you once and again fall into events that restrain you from a specific area or makes the girl leave. The problem is most of time you are at a point where you have to find a really early save to keep on. I understand some might like this mechanic, but for me is not my cup of tea.

Then the grindfest. apart from all the things you have to do for the events to occur, you also have to manage fun, energy, grooming and hunger, increasing the grind even more. I would not complain if the sim part of the character's live didn't interfere so much in the gameplay, because adding to all that you also have to grind your skills up at least in the beginning.

This note is up for change in the future, I don't dislike the game as I kept returning even if it frustrates me a bit, but mainly remembering all the grind I have to do again refrains part of the interest.

for all these reasons For now my rating is a 3. A solid game but that could be even better than it is, mainly if part of the grind was taken away. The cheats make the grind easier, because playing without them is a nightmare for how long it takes to advance.

so while the actual gameplay is very good and the art is outstanding this game is grindy as hell and i mean GRINDY... now normaly i dont have a problem with this .. but in this game i was angry as hell why ?? ... well if your grinding in a game the payoff better be good right ?? ... well whats the payoff in this you ask .. a super hot animation of the girls been smashed by the mc ... erm nope you get a static screenshot and them thats it .... seriously this guy seems to hve lost that whole pay off concept and i will in no way shape or form recomend a game that makes you grind this much for the laziest most half assed pay off i have ever seen in a snadbox game ..

v23.3.0a-WeeklyUpdate2

+the art looks great
-the art looks a little sus. There are some art style conflicts (see bree and her dad side by side), various inconsistancies (MC, girls, and MC's dick all suffer from inconsistent art), and Minami (little sister) has a fucked up hand which is making me suspect this is AI art with manually fixed hands and they just didn't notice Minami's hand.
-not animated
-not enough art for each individual girl.

+game has pregnancy
-for some reason I have been unable to get it to trigger. Even with wiki open and the Hung option which wiki says makes it super likely

-Lots of girls have missable NTR. Not optional, not avoidablee, missable.
-Instead of the player choosing, whether you get NTR or not depends on timing and stats (girl affection, your charm, etc).
-Easy to accidentally miss it when you want it
-Easy to accidentally see it if you do not want it
-Nobody is happy. NTR fans hate it, NTR haters hate it. This should be an explicit choice.

+massive amount of content overall
+each waifu has a different voice actress
-extremely grindy
+there are cheats. which very recently were made available in public version too
-cheats only alleviates some of the grind
-some content is locked to "seasons". An in game year is 124 days. Each "Season" lasts 31 in game days. And various girls can get stuck waiting until the right season to fix.
-each day has 24 time slots. this is way too many when the in game guide does not give you exact times.
-your grind is constantly interrupted by stat caps. to slightly raise those you need to trigger special events like "be in building X room Y on saturday at 18:00"

-extreme wiki dependence to the point of being unplayable without it
-I am constantly referring to the wiki which is ruining my enjoyment of the game
-lots of traps that permanently end relationship. Usually by girl leaving forever. but there is an instance of a waifu murdering another one which is surprisingly hard to avoid without wiki. Or make relationship permanently go in a direction you do not want. (get NTR, miss NTR, miss out on dominance content, etc).
-traps are not always choice based. sometimes they are "must grind girl A love and stat B before day 7 of the game". Or "must get girl A to point X before getting girl B to point Y"
-I find myself unable to play without at least 10 wiki pages open
-Even with 10 wiki pages open, I sometimes make game ruining mistakes. Because you actually need way more wiki pages open at once. But there are only so much wiki flipping one can stomach.

-in game guide is mostly useless. sometimes actively harmful as it tells you to do bad things
-dev explicitly states you are supposed to fail to get perfect result on first playthrough and should do replays to get it right.
-I guess this is the dark souls of sandbox dating porn game.
-replays take already grindy game and dial it up to 11
-I ran across multiple bugs. Worst one was when Minami (sister) completely bugged out on my game due to a sequence break (it jumped from step 3 to step 10 of her main quest and I wasn't sufficiently focused on her wiki (having been looking at another 10 girls instead)... so now I would have to backtrack hours to fix her... anyways, her story is stuck due to stat caps blocking all other scenes with her, which are needed to raise the stat caps).

I spent almost 3 days of nonstop playing on this game... the result of which was unlocking sex with bree, sasha, and minami... getting bree and sasha into home harem. And having minami completely break 30% through her content.
I spent so much time on it. But the longer I play the more frustrating and less fun it gets.
Could and should have been a 5 star game but it is bogged down by some bad design choices

this game is so excellenting, i was love this gameplay, so if u want play 1 of the game can be the best play this game @@! i was hope the developer can do onother game like this again. thank !

Such a boring grindfest. Hours and hours to barely get a couple of scenes that are not even that good. The nagivation is so overcomplicated, way to many clicks needed to get around. Not worth the time.

Great game. especially if youre new coming into it. Theres a lot of content to go through and a lot of story lines and diff girls which for the most part feel fleshed out. On the negative side there seems to often be bugs where part of a run will stop working. Having to edit a save file so that you can continue down a path can be annoying when it happens. That being said still playing the game

This game is so much fun. Likeable characters, good art, a lot of fun things to do with every character and location (both sexy and not), and meaningful choices with consequences. There are some bugs - for example, if Bree leaves the house because you cheated on her, she will reappear in some scripted scenes - likely because the author was a bit too ambitious with how non-linear they wanted the game to be. But of all the dating sims on the site, this is the one I've put the most hours into.

Ahh. I really wanted to like it. The art is great and the characters are interesting and well written.

It's just incredibly time consuming. You can't really jerk off to it because in my experience you get like 1 lewd image every 30 minutes, and that's using the walkthrough and cheats.

If that's what you want, it's great. It's very well polished and there are some good ideas.

I just found it took way too much brain power and time to actually accomplish anything.

Anyone playing this on normal/hard or without cheats is a masochist.

I think abandoning the season system would go a long way. It takes 124 days to go through the whole cycle, which is longer than basically any porn game I've ever played. It doesn't seem to add much and creates an artificial and extremely time consuming barrier to progressing the stories.

There is a lot of content here, and it's good and thoughtfully done, it's just way too spread out unless you're going to play this for hours at a time without really planning to bust a nut.

One of the first games I played. Still love it to this day and replay often. Tonnes of great and diverse content with a wide cast I don't get bored with. The art work is fantastic and love the different choices you get to make. This game does suffer the same thing as other games with developers focusing on a lot of different things at once so it takes a while for a route you like to be completed to the end.

Welcome to the one of the top spots on my compendium, LSSB. I have about 20-30 hours this week into this and I dont regret a second including getting and so many great LIs (not you Alexis!) including Sadayo Kawakami inspired Shiori, the gyaru version of Season 3 AoT Mikasa thats Hanna and the Prison School Warden inspired Aletta. Lexi is my hot trashgirl. "Tiger Mask V" Ayesha is wonderful and a great depiction of a Joshi/Woman's wrestler. 10/10 would be put into "The Billy Goat's Curse" for some asslicking. Sasha is goth perfection. Bree and Minami are liquid sugar in human form. Deceptively great characters like Kleio. If not for Mike being a major Nice Guy TM and a vessel at times for the devs "MGTOW"/Anti-SJW sentiments which made me groan aloud as I rolled my eyes AND facepalmed irl, I'd say this was flawless. (A girl like Aletta isnt going to let you call her a Feminazi to her face and not DUMP YOU outright. That was silly.) The art is simply stunning. Just looking at the shelves of manga in Minami and MCs room you will see things you know immediately. The attention to detail is jaw dropping.

But yea, Alexis can eat shit though and is perfect for those that like NTR paths but avoiding NTR with her just makes her slimy as hell. Very relatable to why she is easy to hate.

I tried it here and bought it on Steam during the sale. I have no ragrets.

Honestly such a fun and good game, if you like those longer games that have large casts of girls. this is one for you. hopefully the add a bit more fetish stuff and expand on the clothing options, but defs worth a play

Love & Sex is packed full of content. There are tons of girls to romance and create your own harem with. This is one of my favorite games on the site, but I do have to take a star off for a couple reasons.

First, the game often has bugs with each new release which can be annoying when it locks you out of content. Second, the art in the game is inconsistent. You can tell which scenes are older as the art is much lower quality than the art that is being added now. Lastly, progressing some girls content in the game can be very tedious either because the in-game walkthrough can be very vague at times or because there's only a very specific time and place you have to be to progress. I highly recommend using the wiki while playing.

I definitely recommend the game though as its consistently updated and the amount of content in the game will get you through multiple fap sessions. It's also very refreshing to have a game with this many girls that all look unique, have different personalities, and they all actually have content made for them. Can't wait to see what else is added in the future!

Have been playing this on and off for over a year and its one of the best NSFW games I have played.
The art is gorgeous, the stories and characters have personality and have some good developments, and it has a lot of options to how you develop your relationships.
Very good game.

Version reviewed: 22.12.x
AMAZING game. I only recently found it because I usually use the BDSM tag as a filter and, although this game has good bondage content, the tag is (still) absent.
This game, although not completed yet, has dozens of hours of gameplay to offer.
The pros:
1. Great art and lots of girls to choose (or not!) from
2. Various body types, ages, skin colours and different personalities
3. Possibility to create harems
4. Some nice (light) bondage play with some of the girls – but basically all of them can turn up to be your slave, with a matching collar
5. You can play this for days and still find new content
6. The main girls have some (high quality) spoken dialog with sexy voices
7. Although there is a component of stats management, it is not critical and does not require any grinding to keep them up
8. Cheat engine integrated, that can be used w/o fear of breaking the game
9. Rock solid programming. In dozens of played hours, the game did not crashed once (win64)
10. Pregnancy is possible but (fortunately, for my taste) avoidable.

The cons:
1. You will need to look up the official Wiki to know what you are doing (the walkthrough is no longer being updated)
2. You should be careful with some in-game choices: some girls can and will disappear forever (the only way to get them back is to load a previous save... or start from the beginning) and can even get killed!
3. It is not possible to have a harem with all the girls...
4. There is no gallery to return to some favorite scenes but, to be fair, all or almost all sex scenes are replayable (unless you "lost" that girl in the meantime).
5. Some stuff can only be achieved on certain days or, worse, on certain seasons (each season is 30 days long). But I guess that can also be a "pro", since it extends the playability of the game.

Last but not least: don't ask for a "savegame" file, because you will miss a lot of content if you do.

Okay. Let me preface this by saying that I rarely leave reviews on f95 because I rarely spend more than an hour on playing a game that I find here. Now, I can safely say that I've played most if not all the content present in the currently provided version of this product. And, oh boy, do I have things to say about it.

First, let me start with the artistic presentation of the game. The art is clearly hand-drawn, quality 2-D cartoon-style art. It's really nothing special, but it's pleasing to look at and isn't jarring in any way. Of course, there are numerous events with the said art depicting both sexual and non-sexual activities, but when you take into account just how ungodly long it takes to see all of the aforementioned activities you just can't help but feel like there weren't even that many of them. They end up feeling scarce and criminally short. Not only that but vast majority of them follow the same template.

The template. Meet a girl. Date a girl. Fuck a girl in 1to4 positions (same for every girl). The end. Naturally, there is more to it but this is basically what you will find yourself doing for hours and hours when playing this game. At first it feels alright, then it starts to feel grindy and at some point it will truly test your sanity's durability. And that's just by the sheer repetitiveness of it.

Okay, now I feel like I need to address the elephant in the room. The how part of dating and fucking people in this game. Oh boy. I don't think I've ever spent this much time scouring a game's Wiki for as long as I did with this game apart from Terraria. And I mean it. Want to date this chick? Sure, now you can't date/meet/finish the storyline of that chick. Why? Check the wiki. Found the reason? Start another playthrough or rollback X amount of hours. Missed this event? Too bad. Didn't get to form a harem with these chicks? Too bad. Want to do it properly? Sure thing. Now just go and do this superspecific thing in a superspecific manner an arbitrary amount of times. Good boy, pat yourself on the back. Now hope you did everything right and the game didn't fuck up at any point of time. It's mind-numbing, dull and downright irritating how event triggers/flags are setup in this game and I would never, and I mean never want to go through all of that shit ever again.

Speaking of irritating stuff. The season system/time system/day system in this game is awful. Truly. It's extremely restrictive and forces you to constantly open calendar to calculate a myriad of things all the time and it gets old very quick. Want to progress with Minami? Too bad, you have to go to the Beach location and it doesn't open until Summer and it's fucking Fall. You dummy. Want to progress with Emma? Hah! Well she'd like to have a picnic in the park, but it's Winter. Who has picnics at Winter, dummy! And so on and so on and so on. When I say that this calendar shit gets in the way all the time, I mean it genuinely. Not being able to skip season/days and not being able to just prompt the necessary events whenever you want because that would save time and my dying neurons apparently never occurred to the developer. I have no idea why they insist for the user to use this system.

Same thing could be said about the 24H cycle. It's same-same really as with seasons but more actively frustrating because you'll find yourself looking at the clock and clicking "skip hour" button more times than you could humanly keep track of. To sum it up about these in-game systems - use cheats or edit save files. Fuck that noise, you'll thank me later.

I should also probably mention the City/Location/Room system of navigation that the game utilizes. Oh God. I mean, I can't tell you how many days I've skipped waiting for Morgan and Kleio to show up at Pub at the same time. Or how many attempts it took for Sasha to appear at Nightclub on Saturday night when I went out there with Lexi. Etc etc etc. There is a schedule for girls on Wiki, but it's not always accurate, it changes based on many things like seasons, point or path of their story and so on and very soon you'll come to realize that not having the ability to just call the needed girl and ask her to come to a certain location is a fucking feature that's not sorely missed but makes you feel like it was purposefully omitted to drive you insane.

Having Morgan lock out as a character if you receive a call from Kleio is stupid. Having Emma be such a needy character that you almost must rush through her story early is stupid. I could go on, but truly many of these arbitrary things are unnecessary and just get in the way of enjoying the game the way you want. Can't form harems with several girls if you're progressing with one of them, can't progress their stories if you triggered a certain harem flag and now you must do other events before you continue. The list is truly never-ending.

Finally, I'll sum up my impression. I'm glad I played this once, it was somewhat enjoyable for what it was, but I never, never will play this game again, unless some major changes will be made. Also, it's just too vanilla for my taste, but that's neither here nor there. Play this when you feel like you are ready to have 20 wiki tabs open and stop to read each single paragraph of each girl on there every 3 minutes. Otherwise - don't.

Great game .
in my top 5 .
couldve been better in execution cuz some of the mechanics are a bit too rare.
but hey the dev is awesome and updatets it pretty regularly and it has a lot of cheats.