Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.11.0b] [Andrealphus]

Arthas Menethil · May 29, 2025

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monk_56 · May 29, 2025

Wtf is going on with this title? It bumped up to 22k earnings in 2024 and is down to 17k now in 2025. Did the game lose its mojo / make some sort of major change no one liked or did it just get stale / more outclassed as the H-game market becomes more competitive?

DragoonC · May 29, 2025

i like this game, but im so f'd up with the individual girls paths. i swear i restarted the game like 100 times by now just for Anna, but she always disappears on me.

KSEN2006 · May 29, 2025

can fix it? i can't read. The letters overlap.

Cartageno · May 30, 2025

auniqeusernamefortheemail said:
sorry if this get asked a lot but
1. is there a plan for an ultimate harem where you for example live in a mansion with every heroine ?
2. is there a plan for tattoo system like the piercing system ?

(1) As far as I understand there is not. While of course ideas may change (and have changed), no all-in-one house was planned.

(2) I have no information about this, however, while possible and fitting, it would be a lot of work since every possible tattoo has to be created for every scene that part of skin is showing. Luckily this is easier than in a pre-rendered game, so I wouldn't rule it out, but it would probably be an end-game add on if anything. Again, this is just my interpretation and I may be patently wrong.

monk_56 said:
Wtf is going on with this title? It bumped up to 22k earnings in 2024 and is down to 17k now in 2025. Did the game lose its mojo / make some sort of major change no one liked or did it just get stale / more outclassed as the H-game market becomes more competitive?

Ups and downs happen to all kinds of games. While losing nearly a quarter of income of course is not irrelevant, I would guess that this is just normal flow. This game has not lost its mojo, I wouldn't be aware of any player-shooing major change. As for outclassed: it does have no animations which seems to be more and more of an issue nowadays, but since it is hand drawn, it doesn't fall behind from a graphics point of view. But similar to above, I am just guesstimating here.

Sexdrake · May 30, 2025

monk_56 said:
Wtf is going on with this title? It bumped up to 22k earnings in 2024 and is down to 17k now in 2025. Did the game lose its mojo / make some sort of major change no one liked or did it just get stale / more outclassed as the H-game market becomes more competitive?

I can only offer my perspective, but if I were to speculate, I would say there are 2 major points that made the game stagnate. Before I get into those two though, I would like to say that this game is one of the best 'bang for your buck' in terms of content and time spent, and it would easily make my top 5 of best adult games, maybe even top 3 because it is primarily a game at its core.

The first issue this game has in my opinion is the growing scope. There are too many women and too many variables tied to the women. Some of these, like the office harem, are excellent and offer a really fun way of playing the game. But when you try to make it work in tandem with other women, it becomes a maze of relations and connections and forces you to play the game in a specific way. I know the idea is to restart to experience other paths, but that's not really a desired choice in my opinion.

In the same vein, Morgan is very unique among all women as it offers something unique and has a different mechanic compared to other women. Good luck trying to make it work with other women though, as it will almost always end with some leaving and locking you out of their content.

The main negative point with this is that at this point, anything more you add regarding women or relationships will only expand this issue. Does this game need more women or relationships? I don't believe so, as it is already full of good content, with a grindy yet satisfying mechanic. Instead, deepening the skill mechanics, adding buildings/rooms to buy or renovate, adding more clothing options to customize the women, some art revisions or better artists (some of the cg are rough), or creating a deeper management mechanic would make it better. Of course these are only my opinions.

The second issue stems from the first one, and that is optimization. The game gets progressively slow the more you play, and that is because of all the calculations needed and checks to see where the women are. I may be talking out of my ass on this one, but the game does get noticeably slow after a while and there are some areas where you have to press a lot of buttons to do simpler things. The new house UI is much better for instance, but having to move from room to room becomes a chore later on. I don't know how to solve this one honestly.

I would much prefer a second/third installment of this game at this point, but you can always add more of everything to this game, and it is a pretty successful one, so why rock the boat?

Andrealphus · May 30, 2025

I think the reason our Patreon has diminished over the past year is twofold:
- BreeMC: As we have added content to BreeMC this year, and it's less popular, people have naturally stopped supporting on Patreon.
- No exclusive content: We don't have any exclusive content on our Patreon compared to Steam or Itch.io, lessening the incentive for people to sub. In addition, as the game is no longer an EA on Steam, people will logically go there to get it and not on Patreon.

The second point will be alleviated soon as we will be adding Cherie to the game on Patreon and she will only be added on Steam and Itch.io when our second DLC is finished.
For our first one (Reona/Amy/Kat) we pushed it to Steam and Itch.io before completion, and I think it hurt our sales, so for the second one, we will wait until we are done.

That being said, here are all the projects we are working on:

Love & Sex DLCs:
- Bree's story (ofc)
- 2-3 DLCs like FAFOW that add 3 girls each
- We are working on a Shawn spin-off
And we have one other game in early access:
- My Demonic Romance
We have four projects unrelated to L&S currently in development in our company:
- The Gang Bang Theory
- 8ewitched
- Eden Camp
- That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Barbarian
And of course, we are working on Love & Sex: Third Base.

larrylaile1 · May 30, 2025

Andrealphus said:
I think the reason our Patreon has diminished over the past year is twofold:
- BreeMC: As we have added content to BreeMC this year, and it's less popular, people have naturally stopped supporting on Patreon.
- No exclusive content: We don't have any exclusive content on our Patreon compared to Steam or Itch.io, lessening the incentive for people to sub. In addition, as the game is no longer an EA on Steam, people will logically go there to get it and not on Patreon.

The second point will be alleviated soon as we will be adding Cherie to the game on Patreon and she will only be added on Steam and Itch.io when our second DLC is finished.
For our first one (Reona/Amy/Kat) we pushed it to Steam and Itch.io before completion, and I think it hurt our sales, so for the second one, we will wait until we are done.

That being said, here are all the projects we are working on:

Love & Sex DLCs:
- Bree's story (ofc)
- 2-3 DLCs like FAFOW that add 3 girls each
- We are working on a Shawn spin-off
And we have one other game in early access:
- My Demonic Romance
We have four projects unrelated to L&S currently in development in our company:
- The Gang Bang Theory
- 8ewitched
- Eden Camp
- That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Barbarian
And of course, we are working on Love & Sex: Third Base.

Just out of curiosity, since you know that the BreeMC content is not as popular, why continue to focus on it? You don't have to reply if you don't want to since this question is indeed random.

Andrealphus · May 30, 2025

It would not be fair to the people who do like it if we abandoned it partway.

Sigrsim · May 30, 2025

I tried this game many years ago. I wanted to NTR route, but the only one I found, was interracial, which I don't like. Is that still the case?

Arthas Menethil · May 30, 2025

Does the itchio version come with the dlc_fafow ?

Andrealphus · May 30, 2025

No but you can buy it separately there too.