Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.2.0b] [Andrealphus]

[Andrealphus]

There is an old saying that goes “criticism is kindness in disguise”.

This game is successful because the best part of the game, without a doubt, is the writing, but the weakest part is the sprites.

The first time I tried the game I uninstalled it in the first minute. Audrey's sprite seemed bad and I decided not to give it a try, thinking that since the most important part of date-sims is usually the graphics, the rest would be just as bad.

After a while I decided to give it a second chance and I was surprised how well it was written, the girls seem more than just dolls ready to fall in love whatever you do, you can even chase only one and ignore the others. That made me buy it on Steam without hesitation and it still seems like a good buy to me.

The sprites of Emma, Morgan, Angela or the new backgrounds of the house, or even the aquarium, let's compare them with the new Kleio's sprite, the difference in quality is too obvious.

I am not criticizing Kleio's redesign or the game as a whole. I am simply saying that she is poorly drawn. Her chin, her eyes, her hands, her top, her arms. It is simply wrong.

Kleio is still a cool well written character (the Brujah in me likes her). Unfortunately now she physically resembles the goth-punk sister of the ugly guy from The Goonies.

Yet I get people telling me the exact opposite, that the writing is poor and the art is great (albeit I admit that Audrey's sprite is one of the weakest in my opinion) so as always opinions vary and yours is worth as much as everyone else's.
I do think people bloated with self importance to the point of thinking that their opinion is the general consensus are most often very wrong and very narcissistic.
The new Kleio sprite reflect her personality way better than the old one and as I am the one who has created her I most certainly know better than you.
And I certainly won't be swayed by a few angry posts

 

[Andrealphus]

Now are those Reviews are pre changes, keep an eye on the post after every update most people on steam will review once and not check back to the game till done maybe not even then to redo the review. same with many other places.
also note as I said I'm not upset with the body or the face change, in general, it's the pose or angle making Kleio look not right, I do love the other changes right now and overall.

If you are referring to the double finger position, it's a bug that it's her default one and it should be resolved in the latest builds.

 

[RazielaMonarch]

I really like how mature some of u guys argue, it's really healthy to see and for the game also. *Clap2*

 

[librismohrg]

Yes there are 3 artists:
- One is working on the sprites (images you see during dialogues): Kleio was the last one not by him
- All three work on CGs
I don't see anyone complaining about the amount of content we can put out every months thanks to that way of working and appart from a few complainers here people are pretty happy with the game as we can see thanks to:
- 92% good reviews on steam
- 22nd/4000 adult game on Patreon
- 5 star rating on itch.io

Hey I honestly love the development you're doing man.
and honestly I'm just awaiting that new chick in the college I forget her name and an update on Emma, but I can wait cause honestly you and your team are doing an awesome job

 

[Black_Rose_201]

If you are referring to the double finger position, it's a bug that it's her default one and it should be resolved in the latest builds.

the Main Image. it's not really the art style as much as it's how she stands back and the angle it makes her look off in the face and so much shorter, if the intent was to give her a short punk rocker girl look in the area of 4.9 or even 4.7 in the imperial system. Then maybe you got the image you're looking for. but I always thought she taller than she comes off now.

 

[Andrealphus]

the Main Image. it's not really the art style as much as it's how she stands back and the angle it makes her look off in the face and so much shorter, if the intent was to give her a short punk rocker girl look in the area of 4.9 or even 4.7 in the imperial system. Then maybe you got the image you're looking for. but I always thought she taller than she comes off now.

Kleio is indeed supposed to be on the shorter side

 

[Skarr]

Yes there are 3 artists:
- One is working on the sprites (images you see during dialogues): Kleio was the last one not by him
- All three work on CGs
I don't see anyone complaining about the amount of content we can put out every months thanks to that way of working and appart from a few complainers here people are pretty happy with the game as we can see thanks to:
- 92% good reviews on steam
- 22nd/4000 adult game on Patreon
- 5 star rating on itch.io

Like I said the game is pretty unique and good, that can explain the rating.
For me the only default are the arts. Sometimes there are great and others are ugly as hell (Alexis's scene for exemple, looks like they've been done quickly...) The art of the different characters are not equals sadly and it make me react because they are a lot of games with way better art style, but this one's one of my favorite (the gameplay is just awesome : the choices, outcomes, the "control" the player have in the story, the RPG elements. We are not forced to just read some lines like others and make an insignificant choice after 30 min of boring reading.

And yeah : one of the rarest games like these where the dialogues are not boring to read! Good balance, really! Not like, for exemple Taffy Tales where there's too much dialogue, too much monologue that just kill the rythme, for saying nothing...).

So, don't misunderstand my reaction about the arts : it's just because it is in my top 3! You're game is great as hell otherwise.

And I can't wait to see the clothing system (girls gifts) improving to really change when we offer them clothes other than sexy swimsuit or dress. It will be awesome at final I hope. A very complete game worth the buying.

As for the framerate problems : have you a list of specs where the game works greatly?

 

[Skarr]

There is an old saying that goes “criticism is kindness in disguise”.

This game is successful because the best part of the game, without a doubt, is the writing, but the weakest part is the sprites.

The first time I tried the game I uninstalled it in the first minute. Audrey's sprite seemed bad and I decided not to give it a try, thinking that since the most important part of date-sims is usually the graphics, the rest would be just as bad.

After a while I decided to give it a second chance and I was surprised how well it was written, the girls seem more than just dolls ready to fall in love whatever you do, you can even chase only one and ignore the others. That made me buy it on Steam without hesitation and it still seems like a good buy to me.

The sprites of Emma, Morgan, Angela or the new backgrounds of the house, or even the aquarium, let's compare them with the new Kleio's sprite, the difference in quality is too obvious.

I am not criticizing Kleio's redesign or the game as a whole. I am simply saying that she is poorly drawn. Her chin, her eyes, her hands, her top, her arms. It is simply wrong.

Kleio is still a cool well written character (the Brujah in me likes her). Unfortunately now she physically resembles the goth-punk sister of the ugly guy from The Goonies.

I totally agree with you. There's game that I found really beautiful in the art like House Chores (from Siren Domain)... If the art style could be close to that, my god that would be the best game of all times...

 

[noovyo]

doesnt the old save dont work with the new update

 

[regar_01]

dose some have complete save

 

[Louderxd]

Yes there are 3 artists:
- One is working on the sprites (images you see during dialogues): Kleio was the last one not by him
- All three work on CGs
I don't see anyone complaining about the amount of content we can put out every months thanks to that way of working and appart from a few complainers here people are pretty happy with the game as we can see thanks to:
- 92% good reviews on steam
- 22nd/4000 adult game on Patreon
- 5 star rating on itch.io

Well indeed that we play this game for fap, but in MY OPINION, this game is not just for fap. I play this game because I found that the gameplay is interesting, the dialogue, the story, the character development, the vibes,...There is a lot of good points from this game that people actually skip blaming the character model part, from fapping to actually play the game. If someone need advice which game to play, I will recommend this. If they need to fap, I will not recommend this, the art style are not regularly, too much different styles as I know there are 3 persons drawing it.
For Klieo, she is not my fav char, but I don't have problem with her. The new model looks fit her personality, but the eyes, and the middle finger, you know....

 

[Jarvyport]

I've got an issue where I can't continue with the Pixie Harem route because Klieo is stuck on a rooftop. Any ideas?

Edit: Sorry, to be more specific it's the part where they talk to you in the studio. Klieo hasn't been in the studio since the MC got into the band. Is this a bug?

 

[Nordic Succubus]

How do I get Samantha's KP above 25? I already got her as my girlfriend and LP is at 85, which also seems to be unable to go higher. Help would be nice

And Merry Christmas to you filthy perverts <3

 

[chickenshite]

I've got an issue where I can't continue with the Pixie Harem route because Klieo is stuck on a rooftop. Any ideas?

Edit: Sorry, to be more specific it's the part where they talk to you in the studio. Klieo hasn't been in the studio since the MC got into the band. Is this a bug?

Same issue. It looks like if you get Kleio to propose on the rooftop, she no longer shows up to band practice, again. Which means the Band Harem line is impossible to complete if you get Kleio to 100 before completing the Harem events.

 

[Daxter250]

am i the only one who likes the old version of kleio more?

the new design just looks...off.

 

[herrzimm1]

Look at the guide of the game. It have all the Love Interests.

I mean anyone looking for updated Bree content in regards to being the main character is still S-O-L, due to lack of anything really new or interesting happening on the female main character side of things.

As far as her being a girlfriend/harem? I'm content with THAT side of content, just not the amount of content in regards to being the MC.

 

[Billytherex]

is it possible to not get shiori. i got the interview scene but he didnt hire her

 

[Daxter250]

is there actually a way to let everyone run around naked?

 

[Deane9850]

The only complaint I have for this game is the Shiori wall for Audrey's route. They are totally independent storyline with no relation except working in the same office. They are not part of the same harem. Yet Audrey route is blocked by a highly advance Shiori's path. Totally making it impossible for someone going for only Audrey and Palla harem because you are forced to up Shiori's story to unlock the office buttslap scene.

OK I lied, there's another one that got introduced in the last few version. The one where we are forced to race Sasha to 50LP in order to NOT see her NTR scene. I dont care about her hooking up with Scott, but showing their scene to me is a very huge turn off. Palla slept around, but I'm fine because we dont see her scene. Samantha and that jerk prolly have a 1000 sex everyday before their marriage, but not seeing them is fine. Why the fark they decided that its okay to show Sasha of all people in a place where we had to go through every day is beyond me.

 

[jak1165]

New sprite: Not too fan her new hairstyle but I understand it reflects her personality. Her eyes is meh, but third pic has better drawn eyes. But her middle fingers ... am I the only who feel weirded about it? The way they are drawn, and being a normal pose for her.

Her hands look crazy big compared to the rest of her body