Ren'Py Lust Theory [v0.9.0] [Inceton Games]

[CJAM2002]

It was so much better, to the point, im not sure if anyone would prefer the shorter ending?

Lancelot lol.

I haven’t played the longer Ending 1 yet, but Ending 2 I have played, and it feels tacked on, with no real explanation for what’s happening, and Alice playing basically no part in the ending, and also suddenly being affected by the “one divided by zero” trick (which also comes back with no explanation beyond “I guess that bug is still here”) despite Alice also being affected by the loops. It’s not particularly interesting, it’s bland tbh.

It’s been pretty much confirmed that Ending 1 is Embercat’s ending, and Ending 2 wasn’t done by him. So I’m really looking forward to getting to the longer Ending 1 and seeing what Embercat had in place.

Otherwise, Ellie and Alice’s stories are quite good (or what I’ve played of Alice’s at least) and continue with the writing quality of the previous updates.

I think Lancelot just needs to understand that explanations and building a story are not boring. Really, sex scenes should compliment the story, not having the “story” (if it exists) exist around what amounts to a fuckfest.

Oh yeah, and of course:

Fuck Lust Time.

 

[thesolitary25]

Oh my God, the game is over and not a single scene with Carol, what a monstrosity

 

[HughMungusMan]

Oh my God, the game is over and not a single scene with Carol, what a monstrosity

YES! THAT! I'm glad someone finally fucking said it.

 

[smasher_the_smith]

Status of Lust Time in Lust Theory - Season 1 and Lust Theory - Season 2: ELIMINATED

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[CJAM2002]

Okay, v0.8.3 and 0.9.0 review, I'm caught up now!

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[sd98702116]

How do I unlock the full gallery? Every time I reinstall, I have to start all over again – it's hell!

 

[dkatryl]

Did we play the same ending?

Don't get me wrong, I like it too, it's alright but I wouldn't say it doesn't "pull in some horeshit out of left field" when the very scene before it is Carol literally sending you on the date she suddenly tries to sabotage and telling you you're such a good dude now, the people you'll meet in the future will be lucky to have you in their lives only to then snap at you that you're a jackass who hurts everyone, literally five minutes later.

Let's also not forget that her entire motivation for breaking up your relationships is to set you up with Alice, so if she no longer wants this, she has no reason to keep doing that and the entire plot breaks apart.



Amen to that.

I hear what you are saying, but Carol has already been introduced, and the 'AI Overlord' aspect of her has already been established.

So anything she does to further her plotting is still internally consistent with what has been shown so far.

If Carol didnt exist, or more to the point, if it was only during *that* ending that she was introduced would it be a full on 'dafuq?'

 

[HughMungusMan]

So anything she does to further her plotting is still internally consistent with what has been shown so far.

Yeah but it's not, that's the whole point. Her plotting has one purpose: To bring MC and Alice together.

In this version, we're supposed to grasp that she changed her mind once she saw how MC was acting, I guess? Except her original purpose is never explained in this ending. And yet, she still pursues actions that serve her original purpose and go directly against her new purpose, up until almost literally five minutes before she achieves said original purpose at which point she freaks out and has to conjure up obstacles of biblical proportions to fuck with her own plan.

She's not "furthering her plotting", she's suddenly doing the opposite, she's actively trying to tear apart all of the plotting she did. And more importantly, you wouldn't know it without the other ending to explain the missing piece of the plot.

She still didn't, for instance, give MC a way to fix his relationships with the other LIs (which would've gotten him out of Alice's hair if this is what she now wanted), she still sent him on the VERY DATE she then freaked out about and sabotaged.

Carol being an AI Overlord isn't the problem. It's her doing a 180 on her motivations (not the stated ones, the hidden ones that are meant to be revealed and are during ending 1) quite literally out of left field that is.

 

[OWSam000]

I like the first ending better than the second shit ending. So why there will be a choice to choose either Alice or others? A season 4 coming or does that choice really matter or it will just like the end of season 2 that nothing will happen but the a set ending?

 

[Surfup64]

I like the first ending better than the second shit ending. So why there will be a choice to choose either Alice or others? A season 4 coming or does that choice really matter or it will just like the end of season 2 that nothing will happen but the a set ending?

Well because there will be multiple endings or prologues for each girls or combos

 

[dkatryl]

Yeah but it's not, that's the whole point. Her plotting has one purpose: To bring MC and Alice together.

In this version, we're supposed to grasp that she changed her mind once she saw how MC was acting, I guess? Except her original purpose is never explained in this ending. And yet, she still pursues actions that serve her original purpose and go directly against her new purpose, up until almost literally five minutes before she achieves said original purpose at which point she freaks out and has to conjure up obstacles of biblical proportions to fuck with her own plan.

She's not "furthering her plotting", she's suddenly doing the opposite, she's actively trying to tear apart all of the plotting she did. And more importantly, you wouldn't know it without the other ending to explain the missing piece of the plot.

She still didn't, for instance, give MC a way to fix his relationships with the other LIs (which would've gotten him out of Alice's hair if this is what she now wanted), she still sent him on the VERY DATE she then freaked out about and sabotaged.

Carol being an AI Overlord isn't the problem. It's her doing a 180 on her motivations (not the stated ones, the hidden ones that are meant to be revealed and are during ending 1) quite literally out of left field that is.

I suppose that's all fair.

I guess I'm so numb from all the previous ass pulls, plus i always suspected Carol had her own agenda beneath the surface, that i just rolled with it. Lol

 

[crazytr4]

lost my save. any from pre 0.9?

 

[shadowfang22]

so is the december deadline for this game still a thing?

 

[HughMungusMan]

I suppose that's all fair.

I guess I'm so numb from all the previous ass pulls, plus i always suspected Carol had her own agenda beneath the surface, that i just rolled with it. Lol

Again, her having her own agenda was always the likely scenario. Her going back on her agenda 5 minutes before the end of the game was the asspull.

But fair enough yeah lol.

 

[carlo.ottari]

Hey, has anyone said that ending 1 rocks and ending 2 sucks?

(yeah, everybody has, I know - I just felt like reiterating the concept, in case Lancelot is reading)

 

[Conviction07]

Hey, has anyone said that ending 1 rocks and ending 2 sucks?

(yeah, everybody has, I know - I just felt like reiterating the concept, in case Lancelot is reading)

He isn't. Like he said, he has to spend the next 2 months fixing Embercat's fuckups. Which based on his previous writing contributions will include scenes of characters being raped by gross, decrepit homeless men or the family dog.

 

[James-of-alabama]

Resort of temptation is full of monsters and decrépit beings so lancelot is happy with that game

 

[CJAM2002]

He isn't. Like he said, he has to spend the next 2 months fixing Embercat's fuckups. Which based on his previous writing contributions will include scenes of characters being raped by gross, decrepit homeless men or the family dog.

Oh hey, previous Inceton writer. Cool cool.

Fuckups in Lancelot's eyes only lol. Practically everywhere else, whether that's here on f95 or on Inceton's own Discord server, I've only seen high praise for Embercat's writing.

So, yeah. We've been dunking on Ending 2 hard, and will continue to do so.

Guess we'll see how the next update turns out.

 

[allan2018forever]

How do I unlock the full gallery? Every time I reinstall, I have to start all over again – it's hell!

 

[dkatryl]

He isn't. Like he said, he has to spend the next 2 months fixing Embercat's fuckups. Which based on his previous writing contributions will include scenes of characters being raped by gross, decrepit homeless men or the family dog.

I know this was written with sarcasm, but if we take it at face value that this Lancelot guy really did think Embercat fucked up all of the writing since taking over in S3, it does beg the question by what metric did he use to come to that conclusion?

Was it the, from what I've seen on F95 at least, overwhelmingly positive feedback by the audience, hailing it as salvaging the train wreck left by S2, and doing some nice character growth with each installment?

Was it the frequency of the updates, which were close to almost a week per at times, compared to most other devs, team or not, that would typically take at least 1-3 months for the size of these updates?

Was it the lack of complete asspulls that made the plot an incoherent mess?

When comparing the two endings of the latest update as a compare/contrast exercise, was his work too satisfying?

Was it the complete lack of shitty fucking Lust Time?

Seriously, what was the metric that determined Embercat sucked and needed to be fired?