Making money from a real-porn game?

[Getaphix]

Hey!

I'm the developer of Coecion. As I have mentioned in that thread, the game was a proof of concept.

It would be great to monetize another game like that - which uses real-porn images - so that I can continue development etc. Someone mentioned two games that currently use real-images ("The Company" and "Paradise Found") and I see that they earn a decent amount of money on Patreon.

I have two questions:

How do these developers earn funds when they are not using their own images? (I suppose they just stay under the radar at Patreon which I'm sure do not actually allow this type of content).

Is there any feasbility to monetize the development of Coercion - or a similar game created with my own images - and monetize it via Patreon or even with an independent website?

My game wasn't too well received here but it's the type of 'pop' porn game I would like to see in the market (and I do prefer real images).

Any thoughts?

 

[rk-47]

patreon or subscribestar would be an option

 

[taler]

Ship the code and the images separately. Make "girlpacks" where you can insert arbitrary images so you don't have to be responsible for distributing the images.

 

[Deleted member 1952336]

Real porn is against Patreon's TOS, so even if you got permission from the creators of the actual porn you're risking getting banned if any one ever reports you.

People get around it by tracing images and drawing it as a cartoon on top with their own artistic interpretation but it won't look as good, and artistic skill of knowing where to draw the lines is a big factor, or they just risk it and do it anyways until they get banned.

If you wanted to do it the complete legal way, you'd have to get permission from the original creators of the images. You could possible work out some deal where you only use certain promotional images of theirs, and you give them free advertising in your game with links to their websites when people want to get all of the images.

Then as far as payment processors you have to find a specific payment processor that allows real porn. So not Paypal, not Stripe, not Patreon, I'm pretty sure not Subscribestar, not any of the big payment processors you've probably heard of. They all have have strict rules against real porn, if not all porn entirely.

There are a few payment processors if you dig around on the internet that allow real porn; That's specifically what they are made for. They charge MUCH higher than other payment processors however because porn has a very high charge back rate which is riskier for payment processors and costs them more. They are also smaller businesses with higher costs per customer.

The next step would be finding a website host that allows real porn. Again, almost all of the big web hosts that you've heard of do not allow porn, or do not allow real porn, so if you use any of them you're risking getting immediately banned on the first report. But again, if you dig deep enough you'll find some smaller web hosts that allow it and likely charge more as well.

Then you have to figure out advertising and marketing, which will be another big challenge.

But that's pretty much it. Anything else is risking getting banned on the first report.

 

[darkduck09]

Legally, monetizing anything that isn't yours is bad. What a lot of devs have started doing is separating the game from the actual assets used (videos and images). This allows the user to fill it with whatever and the dev is only getting paid to create the game, not the assets.

 

[Getaphix]

Thanks a lot for the very interesting replies.

The 'girl packs' seem possible with real porn. You can develop the game on Patreon and then send people to *ahem* a secondary unrelated source where the images/video are just free. I suppose you have no liability for what girl packs people use with the game and the Patreon development has no porn whatsoever.

Can anyone point me towards a game that has been seperated into the software and the 'girl packs'?

I assume if you try to fly under the rada at Patreon then get reported... they get to keep any money on the account!

Seems very difficult - and expensive - to do entirely legally, and even if you did, it would be hard to get the required amount of purchasers to make it worth it. Easier with on-going subscribers invested in the development, whereas I would prefer to ship finished products.

 

[taler]

Thanks a lot for the very interesting replies.

The 'girl packs' seem possible with real porn. You can develop the game on Patreon and then send people to *ahem* a secondary unrelated source where the images/video are just free. I suppose you have no liability for what girl packs people use with the game and the Patreon development has no porn whatsoever.

Can anyone point me towards a game that has been seperated into the software and the 'girl packs'?

I assume if you try to fly under the rada at Patreon then get reported... they get to keep any money on the account!

Seems very difficult - and expensive - to do entirely legally, and even if you did, it would be hard to get the required amount of purchasers to make it worth it. Easier with on-going subscribers invested in the development, whereas I would prefer to ship finished products.

Girlpacks for venus club:

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https://f95zone.to/threads/venuss-club-v8-tobe.48941/

 

[Getaphix]

Thanks! I see they're using Unity. I suppose girlpacks needs a proper program and not something like Renpy?

 

[taler]

Thanks! I see they're using Unity. I suppose girlpacks needs a proper program and not something like Renpy?

No, it makes no difference renpy can do the same, there are loads of girlpack games with renpy check out brothel king for example. https://f95zone.to/threads/brothel-king-v0-15b-goldo.3282

PS: Renpy is the best engine don't ever consider getting off of renpy lol.

 

[Getaphix]

Thanks! Good engine for open-choice games too, I think. Might take me a few years though!

 

[AetherL]

Attention, offering a link to a pack that goes against the rules of patreon directly on patreon is like offering them the pack directly and therefore against the rules of patreon. They will ask you to remove the link.

So in any case you will have to offer this completely outside of patreon. And so the reverse option works almost the same. You talk about your game elsewhere (here maybe) and you ask for support on your patreon.
And you can be sure that in any case, to play your game, players will have to go through a site offering it for free. And so those who will possibly give you money will not do it to get the game but to support you.

So you don't need to put anything on your patreon. Except maybe some sort of dlc, paying for a piece of code or whatever.