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What's the best way to keep the girls happiness from going down other than fucking them? Also is it bad if low happiness but high affection?
 

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What's the best way to keep the girls happiness from going down other than fucking them? Also is it bad if low happiness but high affection?
Build gazebo ,have a computer for techie traits ,make sure there's not too many girls with malevolent traits.
 
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What's the best way to keep the girls happiness from going down other than fucking them? Also is it bad if low happiness but high affection?
Upgrade your house completely, get them perfumes to wear, give them at least 25/day allowance, send them to the best stables with the best horse and equipment and talk to them sometimes and compliment them.
 
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Hmmm.
Something like bugreport:
in 8.1.9 you can not buy multiple collars in "devious tools". (but perfectly can buy multiple chains for that collar)
So only one girl at a time could wear a collar.

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Well, after some clicking I found that i actualy could buy and use multiple collars at once but collars bought are not displayed in inventory (chains are displayed normally).
 
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Hmmm.
Something like bugreport:
in 8.1.9 you can not buy multiple collars in "devious tools". (but perfectly can buy multiple chains for that collar)
So only one girl at a time could wear a collar.

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Well, after some clicking I found that i actualy could buy and use multiple collars at once but collars bought are not displayed in inventory (chains are displayed normally).
Collars owned and not used are displayed in the third tab of inventory in 0.8.2, though you may have to scroll down to see them.
 

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Upgrade your house completely, get them perfumes to wear, give them at least 25/day allowance, send them to the best stables with the best horse and equipment and talk to them sometimes and compliment them.
If you have someone in the house who is malevolent you can also pick up a slave who is pure and that will eventually remove the malevolent trait from any girls who have it if the pure girl has higher willpower. I assume most people pick up Rebecca at some point.
 

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Upgrade your house completely, get them perfumes to wear, give them at least 25/day allowance, send them to the best stables with the best horse and equipment and talk to them sometimes and compliment them.
Ah thanks, I did thought of the stables but it was too much grinding. Guess it time to grind now. Btw do the girls affection deteriorate below neutral if you ignore them for a long period of time.
 

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If you have someone in the house who is malevolent you can also pick up a slave who is pure and that will eventually remove the malevolent trait from any girls who have it if the pure girl has higher willpower. I assume most people pick up Rebecca at some point.
I just realize I have two girls with malovent traits, so I just need a girl with strong willpower to remove it? I'll just pickup Nicole if that's the case.
 

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No she has to be pure. Caitly is always pure if I'm not mistaken. Not sure about the other girls.
Ohh thanks, thankfully I have enough cash to buy Cait. Also just discovered that there's a walkthrough on how to increase/decrease the traits, sorry for the trouble everyone. But since I'm playing the manipulator, would removing this trait be a bad idea?
 

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I just realize I have two girls with malovent traits, so I just need a girl with strong willpower to remove it? I'll just pickup Nicole if that's the case.
Just corrupt the slave having "pure" trait. @ 50+ corruption she has 50% chance daily -1 + trait value. Also random chances during sex.That trait is removable.
 
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Ah thanks, I did thought of the stables but it was too much grinding. Guess it time to grind now. Btw do the girls affection deteriorate below neutral if you ignore them for a long period of time.
I don't think so, though I don't ever ignore them that long. I think if you have enough bonuses the new equilibrium point becomes about 80.
 
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Ohh thanks, thankfully I have enough cash to buy Cait. Also just discovered that there's a walkthrough on how to increase/decrease the traits, sorry for the trouble everyone. But since I'm playing the manipulator, would removing this trait be a bad idea?
I like Rebecca being Malevolent so I decided to let my girls have some willpower and found out I liked it better that way. Sure they get a little uppity sometimes but then I get more satisfaction in punishing them for it. I like the other bonuses too.
 
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I like Rebecca being Malevolent so I decided to let my girls have some willpower and found out I liked it better that way. Sure they get a little uppity sometimes but then I get more satisfaction in punishing them for it. I like the other bonuses too.
Malevolent is nice if you intend to have your girls fight with you for longer than it takes to get to 20 respect (or especially if you have her earmarked for the arena). I'm not sure it serves any purpose otherwise though besides screwing up the mood for everyone else in the house.

For bondage purposes I like to kind of rotate which girls are the 2 main slaves and leave morning blowjobs on until they've all refused often enough to get a few points of defiance. Then you have an automatic success for getting them into bondage without screwing up their mood at low skill levels.

As far as willpower I think I want most of my story girls to end up with high willpower eventually. For game mechanics reasons I do prefer to break everyone initially to train discipline and skills up easier. Then I can boost their willpower back up again. Randoms I'd rather just keep negative forever (or until I sell them or turn them in for the dockgraves quest).

As far as seduction vs bondage, I find that early in the game I kind of need to do seduction first because otherwise I have to force her and she ends up despising me. I'm not sure if you can improve her mood if you just keep fucking/whipping her that way or not, but I just find it too disturbing to play as a sadistic fuck like that so I haven't tried it. I do find that once her affection is up around amiable, bondage seems to do a better job of boosting affection than seduction does. Seduction seems to be better at boosting happiness and reducing willpower from what I've noticed.

I've taken to spending a lot of time whipping the girls at Dockgraves early in the game now since it's the only reliable way besides books and the bondage class that I've found to raise flagellation. Flagellation is pretty much THE skill to raise affection once you get it high enough to not fail at it constantly.
 

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I like Rebecca being Malevolent so I decided to let my girls have some willpower and found out I liked it better that way. Sure they get a little uppity sometimes but then I get more satisfaction in punishing them for it. I like the other bonuses too.
Would the malovent trait be completely gone from their trait list if I have someone pure in the household? Also how do you increase a girl's weight, do you need to change her food setting cause I've been stuffing Eliana for a while now but it still says underweight when I inspect her.
 

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Malevolent is nice if you intend to have your girls fight with you for longer than it takes to get to 20 respect (or especially if you have her earmarked for the arena). I'm not sure it serves any purpose otherwise though besides screwing up the mood for everyone else in the house.
Plus that extra one (or two--I have a Malevolent/Warrioress Mae) bitch with bonuses seems to me to be the difference between almost always winning against a Tier-6 bounty and it being dicier.


For bondage purposes I like to kind of rotate which girls are the 2 main slaves and leave morning blowjobs on until they've all refused often enough to get a few points of defiance. Then you have an automatic success for getting them into bondage without screwing up their mood at low skill levels.

As far as willpower I think I want most of my story girls to end up with high willpower eventually. For game mechanics reasons I do prefer to break everyone initially to train discipline and skills up easier. Then I can boost their willpower back up again. Randoms I'd rather just keep negative forever (or until I sell them or turn them in for the dockgraves quest).

As far as seduction vs bondage, I find that early in the game I kind of need to do seduction first because otherwise I have to force her and she ends up despising me. I'm not sure if you can improve her mood if you just keep fucking/whipping her that way or not, but I just find it too disturbing to play as a sadistic fuck like that so I haven't tried it. I do find that once her affection is up around amiable, bondage seems to do a better job of boosting affection than seduction does. Seduction seems to be better at boosting happiness and reducing willpower from what I've noticed.

I've taken to spending a lot of time whipping the girls at Dockgraves early in the game now since it's the only reliable way besides books and the bondage class that I've found to raise flagellation. Flagellation is pretty much THE skill to raise affection once you get it high enough to not fail at it constantly.
I start with seductions too, and I always compliment them in the beginning. I don't usually have much trouble with casual asks to the dungeon once I get around to it.

I agree about Flagellation, and I like whipping the sluts at Dockgraves too.

How does a lower willpower help training? There's actually a bonus if their willpower is above 30, at least for skills.
 
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Would the malovent trait be completely gone from their trait list if I have someone pure in the household? Also how do you increase a girl's weight, do you need to change her food setting cause I've been stuffing Eliana for a while now but it still says underweight when I inspect her.
If you don't remove the Pure trait and that slave has a willpower above 40 then you will eventually extinguish Rebecca's magic bitch powers.

Change her food setting and stuff her with treats for a few weeks and it should have an effect. I've never actually tried this much outside a few months ago when there was a bug where the bottom girls weren't getting fed and I had to do it a little while to get their weights back to normal.
 
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How does a lower willpower help training? There's actually a bonus if their willpower is above 30, at least for skills.
It helps for getting their discipline up. A lot of the girls start with less than 30 discipline and I find that they frequently gain nothing from training at that level. So based on the wiki I focus on this stuff until I get their discipline up.


  • Explaining chores: By successfully explaining a slave's chores, you have a 15% chance of increasing her Discipline - if it's 49 or lower.
  • Devotional gain: Maintaining a Willpower below 9, Happiness above 60, and Affection that is Loving or higher, provides a 1% daily increase chance - if the slave's Discipline is 59 or lower.
  • Fear: Slaves with 1+ Fear has a 20% chance to increase their Discipline - it it's 79 or lower.
Combine that with giving them a horse and having a head maid with a qualifying level of discipline and they get to a trainable discipline level in a reasonable period of time.
 

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Change her food setting and stuff her with treats for a few weeks and it should have an effect. I've never actually tried this much outside a few months ago when there was a bug where the bottom girls weren't getting fed and I had to do it a little while to get their weights back to normal.
I'm not positive about this, but I think if you have the game set for them to eat automatically they do it at midnight. But if you happen to be in a seduction or bondage session with them when the clock hits midnight then they don't eat. So the next day they're starving. Took me awhile to figure out why some of my girls were starving but that's the only thing that makes sense to me. I never leave them tied up in the dungeon after I'm done, I always free them. But it's very common for me to fuck them from like 9pm to 3am or whatever.
 

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I'm not positive about this, but I think if you have the game set for them to eat automatically they do it at midnight. But if you happen to be in a seduction or bondage session with them when the clock hits midnight then they don't eat. So the next day they're starving. Took me awhile to figure out why some of my girls were starving but that's the only thing that makes sense to me. I never leave them tied up in the dungeon after I'm done, I always free them. But it's very common for me to fuck them from like 9pm to 3am or whatever.
Oh yeah, that can happen, especially if you're exclusively focusing on one slave day after day, like a Pure Vanilla Feminist.

I learned that the hard way too.
 
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