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Virulenz

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Dunno why you try to confuse me or what you even want to say. I have Mai-Lynn with her green thumb working in my garden and in my bed, i have Mai-Lynn ready for hire working at home and earning me money. Same stats and same progress until one of them gains/loses points of anything, then they become different, but only in this aspect.
 
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Dunno why you try to confuse me or what you even want to say. I have Mai-Lynn with her green thumb working in my garden and in my bed, i have Mai-Lynn ready for hire working at home and earning me money. Same stats and same progress until one of them gains/loses points of anything, then they become different, but only in this aspect.
If you did edit $slot and not $npc.avXX then in both cases - in the npcmenu - it refers to the same npc (no clone) - I so far assumed, that you did edit $npc to copy the data (which by the way would work fine, if you afterwards would release the original). In that case (copying the reference in one $slot to another $slot) releasing one of them, sets the state-attribute of the npc to 0, which means, that a few things will not work (ie. some stat increases during midnight calculations). And there will never be any difference between the stats, as you just managed to keep an npc with state 0 still in the npcmenu.
 

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Dunno why you try to confuse me or what you even want to say. I have Mai-Lynn with her green thumb working in my garden and in my bed, i have Mai-Lynn ready for hire working at home and earning me money. Same stats and same progress until one of them gains/loses points of anything, then they become different, but only in this aspect.
Confused the fu*k out of me too......Then, I been drinkin! :D
 

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with crafting what items have the best turnover for the time spent crafting?
I'm pretty sure that mc duraplate armor is the most profitable crafting object (for all metrics), followed by npc duraplate armor and then by combat armor.

To get high enough mc stats to be able to craft duraplate armors, you typically have to craft a shitload of crossbow bolts (resulting in loss instead of profit) or spend 3x time crafting knives... and you also need to train science on top of that.

Combat armor is typically the more realistic crafting goal, during early game, unless you chose business expert + some academics as background.
 

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I'm pretty sure that mc duraplate armor is the most profitable crafting object (for all metrics), followed by npc duraplate armor and then by combat armor.

To get high enough mc stats to be able to craft duraplate armors, you typically have to craft a shitload of crossbow bolts (resulting in loss instead of profit) or spend 3x time crafting knives... and you also need to train science on top of that.

Combat armor is typically the more realistic crafting goal, during early game, unless you chose business expert + some academics as background.
i did take business expert and 1 in scholar how much science do i need to craft duraplate?
 

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i did take business expert and 1 in scholar how much science do i need to craft duraplate?
When you go to craft item click on the ? and it shows you all the information about crafting, i.e. levels of blacksmith, artisan, science, medical, etc.
 
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Daxter250

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is this some kind of bug or simply not written in the wiki yet?
got mai-lynn to train atg the academy for ages now to get gardening up to 130. but she is stuck at 120 for frigging forever!
 

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If you did edit $slot
There you already failed at reading what i did, because i dont edit slots which would just be pointless.
And the calculations work fine, be it happyness, affection or skills...or demolishing my house/spending money on beggars. At least for the one in my house, npcs dont seem to learn anything if they dont belong to your household...since i didnt clone caitlyn (no unique skills) and observed the few visible stats shown in the hire screen, it seems like the common behavior for dismissed/unhired npcs.
 

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how can i train my slaves medicine? It's greyed out if i want to train them and it seems there is no academic classes for medicine for slaves
 

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I don't believe there is any way to train medical for npcs. Though, it seems irrespective of the level they will contribute aid and you can appoint any number of nurses and I think it is cumulative.

edit: I guess I missed that medicine was added to the home school education list of subjects. I suppose it is greyed out because you don't have high enough medicine to home school. There are books (4) to read that will increase the MC's medicine skill.
 
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Virulenz

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Let caitlyn train them and appoint her as only nurse so her skills grow faster. I think there was also some book to train yourself, but not nearly enough to train others if you didnt start with medic skills.
 

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Let caitlyn train them and appoint her as only nurse so her skills grow faster. I think there was also some book to train yourself, but not nearly enough to train others if you didnt start with medic skills.
How do you make Caitlyn train them?
 

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Let caitlyn train them and appoint her as only nurse so her skills grow faster. I think there was also some book to train yourself, but not nearly enough to train others if you didnt start with medic skills.
Caitlyn cannot train the medical stat. Unless its in the code but not in the tooltips. I guess she can train the pure stat which helps with nursing...?

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Virulenz

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Then the girls i gave her to train just developed a natural talent around her because they all improved...
Same goes for milou since i dont have civilians in my house anymore, all 80 are listed as fighters and i only trained my followers myself...
I'm not some code expert like others here and i dont memorized the wiki, i mostly play by instinct and if it works i remember that, if not i try something else ^^
 
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I don't believe there is any way to train medical for npcs. Though, it seems irrespective of the level they will contribute aid and you can appoint any number of nurses and I think it is cumulative.

edit: I guess I missed that medicine was added to the home school education list of subjects. I suppose it is greyed out because you don't have high enough medicine to home school. There are books (4) to read that will increase the MC's medicine skill.
If you want to maximize medicine, you can get the skill up to 90 if you use the medkits to revive a downed ally after a fight. I think it's like a 30% chance. After you get to 90 then you use the books.
 

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Then the girls i gave her to train just developed a natural talent around her because they all improved...
Same goes for milou since i dont have civilians in my house anymore, all 80 are listed as fighters and i only trained my followers myself...
I'm not some code expert like others here and i dont memorized the wiki, i mostly play by instinct and if it works i remember that, if not i try something else ^^
Milou as slavemistress should increase melee and ranged combat stats (up to 80) as well as their physique (STR and DEX, up to 60 and 70 respectively). It is in her template and NPCs are considered soldiers at 40 melee or 40 range.

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