HTML Masters of Raana [v0.8.4.8 A1.1] [GrimDark]

[bolondro2]

Well, Aria's entire questline probably takes bare minimum 500 days of getting ready without cheats or exploits

Wait wait wait, I´m missing something here????

In my fat ass merchant game I have the Procom Counter Coup at day 238. I have keep playing till day 273 and in this 38 days i have no actions or events or quests that I remember in the Aria questline. If I talk with her in the morning, she is just Talking about politics, and may be some endo of the day event, at most.

I have made no cheats or exploits in my gameplay, short of repeating some combats. Just regular gameplay.
There are more Aria content after this?

NB, I can not remember if the Dingy raiders were before or after the Procoms event at this moment.

 

[khumak]

Wait wait wait, I´m missing something here????

In my fat ass merchant game I have the Procom Counter Coup at day 238. I have keep playing till day 273 and in this 38 days i have no actions or events or quests that I remember in the Aria questline. If I talk with her in the morning, she is just Talking about politics, and may be some endo of the day event, at most.

I have made no cheats or exploits in my gameplay, short of repeating some combats. Just regular gameplay.
There are more Aria content after this?

NB, I can not remember if the Dingy raiders were before or after the Procoms event at this moment.

This is what he's talking about taking so long. Have you done this yet?

 

[Natsidle]

So I've been curious with everyone talking about Aria's questline. It seems like it should be very involved and rewarding, with a bunch of unique slaves and books, but it states in her backstory that her goal in becoming chancellor is to end slavery and bring equality to Ikkaros. How does that not just end with the dissolution of your entire household?

 

[Crimson Fire]

I was not referring to modding, but the sheer amount of requests for 'code to change this or that...'. I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating. A mod adds something that isnt there in the first place or makes something behave different, if it already exists. Cheating tries to circumvent a mechanic to achieve a certain result.

This now becomes philosophical about where the divide is between modding and cheating. And I always fall on the side of let people play how they want to play. I never understood this attitude about "cheating" in single player games. Why do you care if someone circumvents a mechanic in THEIR game?

Also people "cheat" in different ways. Some people cheat to get more character points or give themselves more starting cash. Who cares? Some people cheat to get more influence and still others cheat to give themselves more character points for character creation. And they don't cheat in other ways.

Other people will make a character legit but then cheat to get the perfect servant or slave because it is a fantasy of their or they just want X slave for Y reason. Why does it matter?

If this was a multiplayer game or had some kind of leaderboard based on single player play then you'd have a point but it isn't.
My advice is let people play how they want to play. You'll have less stress and enjoy life more when you stop worrying what other people are doing and just worry about what you do.

 

[Crimson Fire]

1.) No. Happiness is actually in equilibrium in my house. I never had affection drops. There is however a stronger affection decay this patch, 0.8.3.7; that decay is functionally stopped once your NPC reaches 116 Affection. That might be causing your affection drops and you attribute it to happiness when it's just the in-built mechanics

2.) I'm not complaining about my household. They are managed pretty well. More than well in fact. I just said there's a funny willpower drain for anyone below 30 willpower. And it is not tied to badfester. And that it might be affecting other people's accounts too.

3.) Without the unconscious training exploit, I do not think anyone can train a random NPC to be as good as a fully trained 0 exploits Cassius Bauer or Clea Vallas. Best you can do is create a dodge tank. Given the enemies of Aria's Rebellion, a dodge tank will excel vs the warmasters and possibly fall to the Bofors and the minigun enemies. Should still be doable however especially now that spells are a thing, NPCs can access level 2 health implants as opposed to only level 1 back then, and Vallas exists now to ensure the death of the 70/70 soak APC with her Liberator trait.

yep you are the bessstest E'ver! we all feel blessed to bask in your presence. It is just masterful how you have the best combat teams and the best household and the best gameplay strategies and the best economies. I don't know why I even said anything to try and help the bessstest e'ver! was foolishness on my end. I mean it must be complete fluke that we mere mortals get results we want and have no trouble managing our households.

oh yes you saw through my weak facade i have had trouble with affection in all my playthroughs and it was this constant issue that caused me to manufacture the happiness and affection connection. Oh to bask in your amazing skills of perception. I can now die happy.

 

[Crimson Fire]

Well to be clear the head maid issue was one I had been trying to mitigate prior to that. I didn't have a very large household and I was trying to capitalize on the fact that the head maid can spread discipline to everyone else, and she was the only household member that could really fit that bill. I actually spent a few in game weeks purely sermon'ing her up to about 40 willpower, which just didn't last as long as I was hoping it would.

If I sounded like I was complaining about every suggestion I didn't mean it to come off that way, I was just trying to directly engage with the helpful feedback I was getting and did so in list form. I'm somewhat burned out on the at times excessive/tedious busy work that can often make time in the day and your own patience the most limiting resource, and maybe that came through in my comment. (Looking at you cigar room. Four hours a day for 10 days for a single stat point?)

Look you have your goal which is high willpower servants and slaves which I think is doable but you are swimming upstream. You are going against the current which is to make servants and slaves have less willpower over the long hall.

Instead of starting over which might be the only "legit" solution either by starting a new game or purging your house hold make a save to disk and use

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. To make your wife (get one if you don't have one) have high willpower, your maid have high willpower removing her sub trait and reducing corruption and low will from all your slaves or at least the ones with advocate. Then see if this stabilizes your willpower loses if this does work then you know you got into a willpower loss cascade based on traits that when you noticed it the problem was too far gone for minor tweaks to correct. If this save game edit works in bringing stability then it is all good. You get a stable household for your goal and you don't have to start fresh and waste all your efforts and you will know more for your next playthrough.

If this doesn't work then you may have other issues at play and that is important to know.

 

[QQP_Purple]

I just wish there was a way to see the actual point value for affection.

 

[Crimson Fire]

So I've been curious with everyone talking about Aria's questline. It seems like it should be very involved and rewarding, with a bunch of unique slaves and books, but it states in her backstory that her goal in becoming chancellor is to end slavery and bring equality to Ikkaros. How does that not just end with the dissolution of your entire household?

Make her the best she can be skill wise so she is competent at her job but subservient to your will though affection and low willpower.

Also reality often cause idealistic beliefs to bend.

 

[Crimson Fire]

I just wish there was a way to see the actual point value for affection.

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Affection Grades
Affection is only shown as states in the game and can not be viewed as numbers. Here is what they mean:

• <5 Venomous
• 5-9 Abhorred
• 10-14 Despising
• 15-20 Unfriendly
• 20-29 Uninterested
• 30-49 Neutral
• 50-59 Friendly
• 60-74 Amiable
• 75-89 Loving
• 90-109 Soulmate
• 110+ Undying

Not an exact number but the ranges are not that large.

 

[Bonercat]

i hope we can become the king instead of aria oneday, thats why i try to distance myself from her for now in fear of triggering her quest.

also hearing some of this update change some items image or picture, i think it would be nice to have the old version as mod pack for ppl that like the older version of it or curious what it look like.

 

[QQP_Purple]

I know of the grades, but like I prefer actually seeing numbers. Something about ranges just unnerves me. How am I supposed to know if I have hit 116 or if I need to do more?

 

[tooldev]

This now becomes philosophical about where the divide is between modding and cheating. And I always fall on the side of let people play how they want to play. I never understood this attitude about "cheating" in single player games. Why do you care if someone circumvents a mechanic in THEIR game?

Also people "cheat" in different ways. Some people cheat to get more character points or give themselves more starting cash. Who cares? Some people cheat to get more influence and still others cheat to give themselves more character points for character creation. And they don't cheat in other ways.

Other people will make a character legit but then cheat to get the perfect servant or slave because it is a fantasy of their or they just want X slave for Y reason. Why does it matter?

If this was a multiplayer game or had some kind of leaderboard based on single player play then you'd have a point but it isn't.
My advice is let people play how they want to play. You'll have less stress and enjoy life more when you stop worrying what other people are doing and just worry about what you do.

Who says I care? I was simply wondering about the amount of requests of that kind in this thread. Dont twist my words into something that was never said.

 

[Crimson Fire]

Who says I care? I was simply wondering about the amount of requests of that kind in this thread. Dont twist my words into something that was never said.

Riiiiggghhht you don't care soooo much you questioned the quality of the game, I have to assume without playing otherwise you would have definitely said you didn't like A,B & C without referencing people looking for tweaks and cheats. I mean you don't care so much you said and I quote, "I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating," because people who don't care about a topic make definitive statements like this.

You might be able to convince other people you don't care but anyone paying attention knows you were virtue signaling your position of how you are "oh so above all this cheating," as you clutch your pearls.

 

[Crimson Fire]

i hope we can become the king instead of aria oneday, thats why i try to distance myself from her for now in fear of triggering her quest.

also hearing some of this update change some items image or picture, i think it would be nice to have the old version as mod pack for ppl that like the older version of it or curious what it look like.

I don't know if that would ever be in the cards. If it is I'd suggest just making a fork save. Make a save to disk put it in a folder labelled "MoR King" And wait for the content, if it every arrives. Then you can play the game based on the current content. I think you are losing out of the game's current content if you refuse to explore on the off chance you have an ending in the future you want.

having the fork save preserves you game in its current state to exploit that ending should it ever be created without forcing you to stay away from other possible choices. The save to disk means you are less likely to accidently delete it when it is in the program's save games. The folder it resides in is the "name" of the file to identify it in the future when you forget what it was for.

 

[Bonercat]

i do have separate save but still aria premise made me stay away eitherway, i dont want to forge crime paperwork for my indenture slave, and i dont want to give her the power if i cant have it either.

 

[khumak]

I was not referring to modding, but the sheer amount of requests for 'code to change this or that...'. I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating. A mod adds something that isnt there in the first place or makes something behave different, if it already exists. Cheating tries to circumvent a mechanic to achieve a certain result.

For a multiplayer game I could see a distinction but not for a single player game. When I mod a game it's to make it more fun. It doesn't really matter whether that means adding some new feature the base game didn't have or removing something that IS in the game that I don't find to be fun. The whole point of a game is to have fun. That's what makes modding so great. I frequently mod my games to be harder. I also frequently mod my games to change something I don't like, which sometimes makes it easier.

If one player has more fun by making the game even more difficult, great. Another person might have more fun by modding himself to godlike stats. Another might be more interested in shoehorning a custom character they made themself into the game. For a single player game all of those things are legit reasons to mod. For a multiplayer game it's different because modding myself to godlike stats gives me an unfair advantage over a player who didn't do that. So to me that's when modding becomes cheating.

And what about starting options? Many of the options available when you create your character give you a massive advantage over people who don't pick that option. Does that mean I'm cheating if I pick any beneficial options? At some point the distinction just becomes meaningless. For a single player game the only wrong way to play is if you're not having fun. A pretty significant percentage of MOR players make character creation choices specifically designed to eliminate the grind for 1 or 2 particular stats that they don't find it enjoyable to grind out (one of the most common being intelligence).

 

[bolondro2]

This is what he's talking about taking so long. Have you done this yet? View attachment 4263938

Of course. I was done by day 180-200 ( I can not be more precise). Without this there are no way that I get the Mordecainst countercoup at Procoms, or the Dingy raiders I was talking about...

 

[bolondro2]

So I've been curious with everyone talking about Aria's questline. It seems like it should be very involved and rewarding, with a bunch of unique slaves and books, but it states in her backstory that her goal in becoming chancellor is to end slavery and bring equality to Ikkaros. How does that not just end with the dissolution of your entire household?

It depends of how you gameplay style is. I would have no problem at all freeing all my slaves and having them as indetured servants. My household would stay very fine.

 

[vanpett]

The nightly wrool cat event that ought to raise my willpower by +2 doesn't do that. It stays at 97. Smells like a bug to me.

 

[tooldev]

Riiiiggghhht you don't care soooo much you questioned the quality of the game, I have to assume without playing otherwise you would have definitely said you didn't like A,B & C without referencing people looking for tweaks and cheats. I mean you don't care so much you said and I quote, "I believe there is a distinct difference between modding and cheating," because people who don't care about a topic make definitive statements like this.

You might be able to convince other people you don't care but anyone paying attention knows you were virtue signaling your position of how you are "oh so above all this cheating," as you clutch your pearls.

Again - i dont care how one plays the game. My question has nothing to do with any individuals choice. I am not sure why you are so sensitive and feel attacked personally, but you do you. You make assumptions instead of reading obviously, since my postings here have always been critical of some stuff and my approach has always be to condemn playing it a certain way only. It is why I wrote that guide for noobs to begin with.

I am not stepping away from a verbal fight if that is what you are after, but maybe choose a topic that you can win.