Clemency

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I am glad that in the next patch Maid duty will decrease Sloppy, but it's crazy to me that this version survived playtesting at all.
Because playtests are disproportionately done by veterans who are already pretty knowledgeable about game mechanics and are committed to grinding, things that might be tricky for starting players are hardly picked up as challenging, so there might be a bit of a bias there from our side. To me, for example, Sloppy is not a problem. Sloppy's drawbacks aren't scary, so I can just set Adrienne up with a captain and an educator and forget about her for in-game months. I never told Grim it is punishing, because to me it was not. But, after hearing complaints now, I understand that it could be bothersome.
will adding rooms help me gain more money? how does it work?
Yes. Upgrading the taverns should improve your income ( ). So does raising tavern reputation and having a great bartender. And turn on gambling. I do not think there is a downside to it.
 

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Just one data point, but putting ten of my goldwalkers in my tavern (in upgraded rooms) actually DROPPED my net daily income. I've pressed on in hopes that a higher rep tavern will make it worth it, but unless there's a step change near 1,000 I don't think it will. With 18 people committed including the prostitutes the tavern really isn't looking like good value.
 

sangrenord

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Just one data point, but putting ten of my goldwalkers in my tavern (in upgraded rooms) actually DROPPED my net daily income. I've pressed on in hopes that a higher rep tavern will make it worth it, but unless there's a step change near 1,000 I don't think it will. With 18 people committed including the prostitutes the tavern really isn't looking like good value.
To my observation, tavern goldwalkers don't actually earn any money (why?). Nowhere to the extent of street goldwalkers, anyway. Doesn't look like they directly increase tavern income to any great extent either - only contribute to the growth of tavern reputation.

In terms of sheer profit, another rifle factory definitely beats a 1000 rep tavern by an order of magnitude. Just like in real life ;)

ed: tavern whores do add to tavern income, but the formula is very different from street whores. For street whores, corruption and affection seem to play a major role, while for tavern whores, it's prostitution score, beauty and vaginal xp (oral xp and charisma are used for both). Perhaps super experienced whores would generate more income after being transfered to the tavern, but run of the mill ones with nothing but corruption and affection to show for it are better off working the streets.

Running the ring is where the real money are. Easily 4 times the passive goldwalker income - and those assigned to other jobs can participate, too!
 
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autizboyz

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Are there any limit on how many combat relic is the max from stacey? Because mine doesn't go up anymore after 25 bonus in dojo.
 

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another rifle factory definitely beats a 1000 rep tavern by an order of magnitude.
The Military Industrial Complex stays winning. Another 10 billion dollars to Lockheed Martin.
Are there any limit on how many combat relic is the max from stacey? Because mine doesn't go up anymore after 25 bonus in dojo.
Caps at +15, supposedly, according to one of Grim's old comments in discord. So yeah, 10+15 = 25 bonus sounds about right. Not fully sure though, since $artcombat only occurs on one line in the html.
 

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The Military Industrial Complex stays winning. Another 10 billion dollars to Lockheed Martin.

Caps at +15, supposedly, according to one of Grim's old comments in discord. So yeah, 10+15 = 25 bonus sounds about right. Not fully sure though, since $artcombat only occurs on one line in the html.
Okay, what about the house corruption? Are there any limit on that too? Because I try look it up on wiki and here no info about that.
 

TastyTiger

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Hey so what is the best method to raise flagellation skill? I have a couple of girls who will happily let me thrash them until they fucking pass out but I very rarely see flagellation trigger. Just wondering if there's something I'm missing.
 

TheHalfWit

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Okay, what about the house corruption? Are there any limit on that too? Because I try look it up on wiki and here no info about that.
If you check the HTML, it looks like there's a maximum cap of 200. You can raise it higher, but it'll reset back when the day ends.
 

Zarkhy

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Hey so what is the best method to raise flagellation skill? I have a couple of girls who will happily let me thrash them until they fucking pass out but I very rarely see flagellation trigger. Just wondering if there's something I'm missing.
I think the triggers for skill increase are rolling a 1, 55 or 69 (heh). Maybe there were some other numbers too, but we're still talking about a low single digit % chance to increase skill per strike.

And if you're looking to max out your skill, you need to hit the cap from whipping during bondage before reading the books or doing the course.
 

TheHalfWit

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Hey so what is the best method to raise flagellation skill? I have a couple of girls who will happily let me thrash them until they fucking pass out but I very rarely see flagellation trigger. Just wondering if there's something I'm missing.
Quickest and easiest that I've found is with the automation mod, and just abusing kasey. It's pricey at $2000 per session, and takes many days if you start off with a low stat. But she's good to raise flagellation and bondage to 70, and the mod allows a double click to spend your stamina and free cash abusing her.

Otherwise I'd suggest reading the wiki for the math on abusing girls at home. It's kinda shit the odds, 2% or 3% depending on belt >40 corruption or cane >40 corruption with cap of 120.

 

autizboyz

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If you check the HTML, it looks like there's a maximum cap of 200. You can raise it higher, but it'll reset back when the day ends.
I know, but are there any limit on the relic, that's what I'm asking, because I try to play without save scumming, and got a lot of pure girl lol, and keep eating my household corruption, and to be honest I know I can just raise their corruption by lesson in the praying hall, just kinda lazy I guess, haha. And plus I don't want to overcap the relic to be honest, because the relic is quite expensive to sell, depends on the grade of course.
 

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Could we maybe at least keep the latest T4 version up instead of overwriting the DL with something newer but of lower access-value? At least people could grab the Quests and start with the paywalled traits, then switch to the newer version. Even if that sucks right now with the last T4 that was available predating the beauty-attribute crap (not a fan, cha is too hard to farm and taxes you during character creation)
Damn, if only Grim would make this buyable. I'd pay for access, but I am not 'renting'. FOMO-tactics are one of the main reasons to pirate.
 
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HansFranz87

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Just one data point, but putting ten of my goldwalkers in my tavern (in upgraded rooms) actually DROPPED my net daily income. I've pressed on in hopes that a higher rep tavern will make it worth it, but unless there's a step change near 1,000 I don't think it will. With 18 people committed including the prostitutes the tavern really isn't looking like good value.
I feel like the tavern/brothel is balanced around having more slots for sluts. Since you can only have 8-9(?) people work in a workshop. But with the mines, the fort and so on i normally have enough places to put my slaves. I feel like Escorts should earn alot more than they do right now. A Slave worth 40k shouldnt earn as much as a slave worth next to nothing.
 

Zarkhy

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I feel like Escorts should earn alot more than they do right now. A Slave worth 40k shouldnt earn as much as a slave worth next to nothing.
Well, The type of service isn't the only thing that affects Prostitution (Goldwalker) income. High affection (Amiable+?), high corruption (40+ and 80+) and high oral skill (don't remember) each add 10 per day in income. Might've been one more factor I'm forgetting.

By the time the worthless slave has her skills at the same level as that 40k slave, she's not gonna be so worthless anymore.

EDIT: The last factor was of course high Charisma, 60+.

And the income is affected by overall city corruption, but that affects everyone.
 
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sangrenord

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(not a fan, cha is too hard to farm and taxes you during character creation)
Eh? Were it not for the 2 hour limit on seduction phase, you could max out cha overnight. Caress-caress-kiss.

It's hard to farm for npcs, but I assume you refer to the mc.
 

Krashkal

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Eh? Were it not for the 2 hour limit on seduction phase, you could max out cha overnight. Caress-caress-kiss.

It's hard to farm for npcs, but I assume you refer to the mc.
Are you f5-ing after every try? because I would not consider the INTENDED chances on those events as anything more than a nice bonus, and yes, I view other stuff that is only trainable through such low chance methods in adequate amounts as equally flawed (looking at you, Kasey)
 
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