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Yeah I see your point now. For some reason I didn't realize you were on the same side as me. Anyways I only left that one post. I have moved on to other stuff already and just waiting for next update. He did just recently start updating again or at least is now working on the game now. Hopefully his update is a good one.

ICSTOR is one of the best devs out there and ppl may not realize it but he does really good with his stuff. Isn't this project also his first one using Renpy? I think all his others were in a different engine.
Just a quick side note here. Replying to the whiners to me isn't so much about getting them to shut it as much as it is to let the dev know that despite how much complaining there is, he still has a lot of folks who got his back. We all want want ICSTOR healthy and happy.
 

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Just a quick side note here. Replying to the whiners to me isn't so much about getting them to shut it as much as it is to let the dev know that despite how much complaining there is, he still has a lot of folks who got his back. We all want want ICSTOR healthy and happy.
I can't imagine anyone as successful as ICSTOR being that thin skinned though.
 

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This was an interesting perspective and I appreciate the thought you put into it.

I don't get the whole pregnancy fetish, personally, and I often wonder if those that do are folks who've never had children of their own. Having been through it a couple of times myself, there's nothing sexy about pregnancy. I wasn't the one that was pregnant so I can't complain too much, but nothing about the process was sexy or glamorous at all. Her back constantly hurt, she had zero sex drive, she felt uncomfortable with her appearance and wouldn't be around me naked, etc. Just overall not something I'd expect anyone to fetishize.

That said, if you're into it, by all means be into it and I hope you get plenty of adult VN content to keep you happy. It's just not something that appeals to me and I'll happily skip it.
A handsome, honest response.

But I did say (throughout) it was about fantasy vs reality!
 

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Her back constantly hurt, she had zero sex drive, she felt uncomfortable with her appearance and wouldn't be around me naked, etc.
I understand your viewpoint but I think it's more than just fetishising pregnancy. For some, it's along the lines of a consequence of your actions. I suppose it was voted on by the patrons. If it's going to be in the game, he could reach a higher fanbase by incorporating an option to disable it (or someone could make another patch file, akin to the Incest mod) to tackle that.

It can be an interesting mechanic if handled realistically and properly but the closest thing I've ever seen is a game from many moons ago (in which the PC was female) that treated pregnancy as a countdown and birth as a Game Over. Because you were supposed to beat the everloving fuck out of criminals, not have to worry about taking care of your kid.
Even as a Game Over mechanic, it's still not right. Nobody wants to portray it truthfully because real pregnancy is just not a larger belly and fuller breasts but a lot of discomfort too. There still are a lot of men and women that view pregnancy as a beautiful thing.
There are those that DO fetishise it and that's their biz.

I don't begrudge anyone their sauce unless it's ketchup which is disgusting crap. A friend of mine has a thing for shoulders which I don't get while I have a thing for bums but to paraphrase you, "to each their own".
 

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Having been through it a couple of times myself, there's nothing sexy about pregnancy. I wasn't the one that was pregnant so I can't complain too much, but nothing about the process was sexy or glamorous at all. Her back constantly hurt, she had zero sex drive, she felt uncomfortable with her appearance and wouldn't be around me naked, etc.
Different people react differently to different situations. That's why they have horse races.

My wife's back may have hurt, but the back massages helped, which led to front massages, which led to other things, which also helped. She was horny as all get-out and even in the eighth month the sex was great, for both of us.
 
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according to my folder i updated it last in 2018-11-03(0.5) so 8 months ago, is this abandon and the hardcore fans prevent it from getting that tag?

edit:: I know about the health issues posted, but some mental issues might last the entire life
 
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Even as a Game Over mechanic, it's still not right. Nobody wants to portray it truthfully because real pregnancy is just not a larger belly and fuller breasts but a lot of discomfort too. There still are a lot of men and women that view pregnancy as a beautiful thing.
There are those that DO fetishise it and that's their biz.
There are plenty of times my spouse and/or I don't want to have "relations" due to the reality of health-related reasons. Likewise, pregnancy has its opportunities to offer and not every pregnant woman experiences non-stop pre-clampsia for most of their term.

So, fetish or not for someone, it's still a reasonable option to offer in an adult VN and is not unrealistic to portray as fun (to some reasonable extent).
 
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Pregnancy is a symptom of closeness in a sense. Every sexual experience I've had has involved a condom, and the rubber makes the experience not as fun. The significance of pregnancy is the same significance of not wearing a condom and not pulling out. Trust, closeness, and a willingness to take on the risk/responsibility of pregnancy with you. With Linda in particular, when she's forcing you to cum in her bareback, it's also the power dynamic of doing that with another man's wife, she's choosing you to do that with instead of him. And of course none of this extends to real life, I don't want to get anyone pregnant, I don't actually want to destroy someone's marriage or cuckold some dude. But in a porn game the consequences don't actually exist so I'm game.
 

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Pregnancy is a symptom of closeness in a sense. Every sexual experience I've had has involved a condom, and the rubber makes the experience not as fun. The significance of pregnancy is the same significance of not wearing a condom and not pulling out. Trust, closeness, and a willingness to take on the risk/responsibility of pregnancy with you. With Linda in particular, when she's forcing you to cum in her bareback, it's also the power dynamic of doing that with another man's wife, she's choosing you to do that with instead of him. And of course none of this extends to real life, I don't want to get anyone pregnant, I don't actually want to destroy someone's marriage or cuckold some dude. But in a porn game the consequences don't actually exist so I'm game.
Talking about condoms.
Surprisingly for me there is some new fetish/at least for me/-condom blowbjob.
 
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So I'll try a reply to this FAQ (on different F95zone threads), with its variations:

What is the appeal/obsession of *impregnating girls* in sex-content games?; or
Why do people like *seeing girls heavily pregnant* in sex-content games?; or
Why do people love the MC (and/or maybe others) *having sex with heavily pregnant girls* in these games?

The first thing to say, though, is that we are talking FANTASY here, okay? Fantasy is relief, release, often a lot brighter, riskier, more colorful, but also burning off frustrated energies, indulging in excitements people might not find anything like as enjoyable, or easy, or practically desirable in real life. They would probably even recoil from it, if its real people, real people suffering.

So when a perplexed "hopeless" asks below, why would you ever want girls to become like fat, lazy cows etc., using up their man's money, he (probably he!) is either having a cheeky laugh, or else being a bit too *literal* - missing the point.

(In the same way, if (for example) a woman has dreams/nightmares, daydreams - or fantasies - of getting sexually totally dominated and/or raped and/or gangbanged, it would be a MASSIVE mistake to interpret that as being proof of what she actually wants in real life.)

Fantasy is fantasy, and very much at one or two removes from physically real life as we live it.












So, what's the appeal? ...

1) The urge to procreate, plant your seeds and have them grow, propagate your species. "Darwinism", that is often called.

2) - where 1) is sometimes used as a pseudo-scientific excuse! -

"Blue balls". The sex mania of wanting to empty your constantly-refilled sex organs of too much pressure.

And what more thrilling destination for that relief - what more satisfying destination home - than a desired girl's vulva, vagina, womb, if you are male & straight? ... (or maybe female & butch-lesbian ... or gender-neutral but highly sexed!)

3) - as with 2), "darwinism" can be a pseudo-scientific excuse -

A desire to have, do, totally inseminate (& maybe have the attention/affection/desire of) the girl currently in focus.

If of course, that drive is via an MC - or a gang - in a sex-content game, then that drive is vicarious- satisfaction by extension!

4) - masked as 1) 2) or 3) -

Other dissatisfactions, frustrations, jealousies, hardships or problems in real life can add a lot to the drives mentioned in 1) 2) 3). Especially 2) - that excuse "blue balls" is usually a psychological-emotional urge as much as a purely physical bursting of semen!

5) again, esp. if you are a hetero male - or a "bull" lesbian - :

Gender poles accentuated! Rounded, very generously curvy female forms are often very desirable - just as for hetero (or maybe "femme" gay man), powerfully bulging hard biceps and thighs, "six-packs", small packed tight buttocks may seem mega sexy.

A pregnant belly with engorged breasts - a very feminine image, even an obsession.

(Some would unkindly say that guys (or sometimes girls) who adore huge breasts have a "mother complex" - want to be back to a warm place where their mom had - for the baby's small size - large nourishing tits ... but let's not go TOO far here! 8- o )

6) "baroque", richly rounded forms can be aesthetically pleasing too. Flat surfaces or straight lines, not so much. Heavily pregnant is definitely in the first category ...

7) Reinforcing the old sex roles! When women are heavily pregnant, they are more tired, slower, heavier, usually clumsier, more vulnerable, more dependent (so "hopeless" has a bit of a point, to that extent).

For people - guys mainly, no doubt - who love (or love to imagine in fantasy!) a dominant role over the female in sex &d life, there in an adult game is the chance to be the lord & master of fantasy!

8) okay, there may also be an edge of *malice*, impregnating a girl simply to make her life more difficult - physically, economically, socially, psychologically, emotionally, even to "teach her a lesson" she hasn't deserved, or "put her in her place" when she's not the trash you make her (in fantasy). ... Even in fantasy, I'd say it's ad if destruction is the main driving force.


So - all sorts of possible driving forces there, most of which (5 & 6 not so bad) are "not nice" in real life.

But in fantasy, (almost) anything goes! People don't play games to make them like their real lives.

And you'd hope, *games* can take a bit of the pressure off the bad stuff burbling away inside real people!
I think you're missing one large possible motivation - a woman agreeing to have your child is, in some form or other, a profession and acknowledgement of their feelings for you; and regardless of what anyone says, people who are honest with themselves will all say that they want to be loved in such a profound way, because having a child is indeed a profound experience and responsibility.

You kind of touch on this in 3), but you down-play it, and also appear to have it listed as a "not nice" possible driving force, which I would have to disagree with.
 

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Talking about condoms.
Surprisingly for me there is some new fetish/at least for me/-condom blowbjob.
Condom blowjobs? I can understand standard things such as watersports, bestiality, tentacle porn, loli or even the perfectly normal desire to enslave and knock up your sister/mother/entire female family, but condom blowjobs? Maybe you should see a shrink, cause that just sounds.... wrong ;)
 

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I think you're missing one large possible motivation - a woman agreeing to have your child is, in some form or other, a profession and acknowledgement of their feelings for you; and regardless of what anyone says, people who are honest with themselves will all say that they want to be loved in such a profound way, because having a child is indeed a profound experience and responsibility.

You kind of touch on this in 3), but you down-play it, and also appear to have it listed as a "not nice" possible driving force, which I would have to disagree with.

Point well made.

I definitely wouldn't call that "not nice" - it's fantastic, esp when feelings are fully shared & enjoyed at that level.

Just, I was talking fantasy motivations, discussing possible drives for a sort of obsession in a sex-related virtual game - and not real-life considerations (as I keep saying! :D ) I'm not sure the love, affection, sacrifice. longing and desire of a pre-scripted character in a sex-related game can quite equate with that of a real human being, and a human being in their own living right (if you see what I mean!).
 

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I think what you intended to do with this very carefully thought out post was to articulate clear reasoning behind an element of your id. But what you have accomplished is to merely reinforce what I perceive to be the inherent goofiness of the fetish.

Meh, to each their own.
 
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