throw_nws

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When i go in a bar and the coffee sucks, for any reason, i the customer can rightfully ask for the coffee to be remade.
businesses exist to please their customers... BLAH BLAH BLAH
I honestly can't believe there are CLUELESS people here commenting this belief. Ya'll need to get your facts straight before you spout nonsense.

PATREON is not a employer.
ICSTOR is NOT AN EMPLOYEE, NOR ARE WE HIS 'BOSSES'.
ICSTOR's earnings are donations and not a salary, if you don't know the difference then you shouldn't really be commenting such nonsense.
Icstor ISN'T A BUSINESS, he isn't and doesn't have to be legally registered as a trader, nor does he legally have to provide ANYTHING as he's not legally liable to provide a service. He can shut up shop tomorrow and run with the money with no legal consequences.

People using business analogies like this guy (if ICSTOR made coffee and it was shit / if i booked a hotel room and the owner shut), these analogies ARE MOOT. For the points listed above. Please stop with this nonsense.
 

Agent HK47

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that sum's up everything .....wait....... is caroline and Sarah cheating here ??
Well, Sarah is pretty much the most loyal (and naive) person in the world, so I don't think so.

As for Caroline.... Well, she talks about her ex every now and then, and according to some people that seems to be worse than cheating. So yeah, MC is sleeping around with everyone but Caroline is clearly the biggest slut here :rolleyes:
 

Killer94

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poor Caro, also wanna point out what about the twins, violet. the therapist ......
so many questions that needs to get answered
 
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Umgenlied

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There is no way that update is worth over 10 months of payment.
It wasn't ten months, that clarification comes out on this forum in every single page practically.

But that's not even the point here. We are talking about professionalism. And no he is not delivering updates in reasonable states.
That's also false, before this one time he used to update the game every two or three months and so.


but it's a entirely different story if it's more than 10 months with a still active payment roll.
Nope, that's a lie, he did stop the payments on his patreon for the months he said he'd be away.

That's why people are upset and it's understandable. You can't argue on that because it's business. If you start "selling" business comes first. Even if you delay "for a reasonable time", you have responsibilities to inform and keep in touch with the supporters each month. There are many examples out there dark cookie, adeptus
That's not "the business", mate, whatever you meant by adding that, it's what you would like ICSTOR to do. If we're getting technical here, and that seems to be your approaching to criticize him, there might be other forms of business administration other developers practice, but those don't make them "must-do"s of any microeconomic management. ICSTOR has always worked the same way he's working right now, it's what he chose, is it the best for you? Apparently not, but he certainly can't complain, as it hasn't lead to any patreons' lost.
 

cimibibapa2

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Everyone who's blaming capitalism cause of icstor's retarded update schedule, is braindead.
Capitalism is the reason why it's even possible to make games like MC, SS, GTA, Witcher (videogames in general)
Things that are impossible in communist countrys, because porn & free speech (in any shape or form) is forbidden over there.

And btw no i'm not defending Icstor's slow workflow.
I like free market & i love competition, between creators.
 

Arassei

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Oh yeah, there is plenty of cheating going on in this game. Linda is cheating on her husband, Aunt's wife is cheating on aunt, Bob is cheating on Linda and MC is cheating on everybody ;)
Wait, bob is cheating on Linda ? With who ? I don't remember o_O
 

TommyEsclow

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It wasn't ten months, that clarification comes out on this forum in every single page practically.

That's also false, before this one time he used to update the game every two or three months and so.

Nope, that's a lie, he did stop the payments on his patreon for the months he said he'd be away.

That's not "the business", mate, whatever you meant by adding that, it's what you would like ICSTOR to do. If we're getting technical here, and that seems to be your approaching to criticize him, there might be other forms of business administration other developers practice, but those don't make them "must-do"s of any microeconomic management. ICSTOR has always worked the same way he's working right now, it's what he chose, is it the best for you? Apparently not, but he certainly can't complain, as it hasn't lead to any patreons' lost.
The last real update was about 10 months. Nothing is false here we are talking about this game and nothing other than that. He did stop payment just for a short time. I mean seriously are you kidding me or are you trying to be a white knight here?. I was supporter for almost 2 years. You also don't seem to understand what business really means. You always write ICSTOR this or that, not everyone cares about his character. That's not the important part here. If you like him that much, good for you!. But this has nothing to do with this discussion. The most important thing here is how he handles his business.

If you like ICSTOR's work like many other guys here that's very nice but try to be realistic and not a self proclaimed guardian angel. And "we" aren't getting technical here the only one who is speaking technically is me. You're including a bunch of subjective personal opinions into it. We were discussing here why people are upset and I've already wrote the common facts which are being used by many other creators. I do have a business myself and can feel with the disappointment people are having. They're not hating ICSTOR or this game, it's just the way he handles his business.
 

tung17cm

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Well, Sarah is pretty much the most loyal (and naive) person in the world, so I don't think so.

As for Caroline.... Well, she talks about her ex every now and then, and according to some people that seems to be worse than cheating. So yeah, MC is sleeping around with everyone but Caroline is clearly the biggest slut here :rolleyes:
Caroline is not a slut. She is a young girl who likes romantic things. When she talks about former lovers, she often compares to the MC, and the victory still belongs to the MC. It is also her tormenting mentality to want to continue the wrong relationship with the MC, she is Tsudere and not a Bitch.
 

Hones

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Wait, bob is cheating on Linda ? With who ? I don't remember o_O
He must be with messing around with someone, maybe he pays for it? like a dom or something, he has that secret sex room at work remember or do you think he just goes in there and gets all kinky solo.
 
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