Collection Video Miro collection [2024-08-29] [Affect3D - miro]

[xxxDreamZzz]

I absolutely understand where Miro is coming from and what he's trying to do. The promise of some day being able to take your character and use AI as a better tool for animations is closer than Blender/Maya advancing their tech to take the pain away from animating by hand.

Miro mentioned hair, but just the physics of walking 10 meters will take a couple of days of knob twisting, keyframing, physics and kinetics with the rig, morphing, lighting, gravity and fluid dynamics -> then the 5 hour render for 20 seconds, to find out that it glitches in places you didn't even change.

Traditional animation is for autists and sadomasochists, and it is the fault of the software developers. You can't make anything worth while without at least 6 months to a year of training. Whereas AI gen, you at least get something decent out. Maybe not exactly to your high standards of detail... but often the mistakes are also kinda hot and a starting point at least. You can't say the same EVER with tradition Blender/Maya animations.

 

[rjlee]

I absolutely understand where Miro is coming from and what he's trying to do. The promise of some day being able to take your character and use AI as a better tool for animations is closer than Blender/Maya advancing their tech to take the pain away from animating by hand.

Miro mentioned hair, but just the physics of walking 10 meters will take a couple of days of knob twisting, keyframing, physics and kinetics with the rig, morphing, lighting, gravity and fluid dynamics -> then the 5 hour render for 20 seconds, to find out that it glitches in places you didn't even change.

Traditional animation is for autists and sadomasochists, and it is the fault of the software developers. You can't make anything worth while without at least 6 months to a year of training. Whereas AI gen, you at least get something decent out. Maybe not exactly to your high standards of detail... but often the mistakes are also kinda hot and a starting point at least. You can't say the same EVER with tradition Blender/Maya animations.

I was all set to hate on Miro. He's STILL pulling the same shit he used to do when he fucked over all his paying followers with his abandonment of the Cerene sequels...all kinds of delays, dumb excuses, whack random decisions, all just to delay delay delay....he's doing that shit now with his AI venture.

HOWEVER.

I kinda agree with you on the point abt traditional 3d animation. I've seen and read about how difficult it is to use Blender, and IIRC Miro was using Daz to animate his first movies, which apparently only sadomasochists would embark on and is way worse than even Blender in terms of tediousness and difficulty.

I can see why he would burn out, although it doesnt excuse the MONTHS and YEARS of lying and deceiving his faithful followers.

And unlike others here, i was actually impressed with Aveline. It couldnt have been easy to string together the hundreds of obvious 4 second clips to make a coherent 15 minute movie. And unlike so many other creators who ruin their work by using the obese rhinos and hippos for their models, Miro sticks to gorgeous models and what every normal red blooded American wants to see - models that are actually slim, sexy, huge boobs on a normal sized ass and legs.

I'm curious if anyone in this thread can give a thorough breakdown of the kinds of gear you need to do what Miro did with Aveline, the AI software/tools involved, the time commitment, learning curve, etc etc.

Like could any rando put together a pricey but still reasonable computer setup to do what he did locally? Core I7, upcoming RTX 5070 TI Super with a reported 24GB of VRAM, 64GB of DRAM, multiple NVME and SSD for storage, etc....

Ive wanted to do a sci fi movie for awhile now but could never afford anything and didnt have the free time to learn before. I'm talking about a solo Samus like character all alone on a giant spaceship who encounters a shapeshifting alien...with all sorts of craziness happening afterwards lol. Imagine a full 1 hour movie using AI but it seems like that technology is still many years away

 

[bobthebuilder223]

I absolutely understand where Miro is coming from and what he's trying to do. The promise of some day being able to take your character and use AI as a better tool for animations is closer than Blender/Maya advancing their tech to take the pain away from animating by hand.

Miro mentioned hair, but just the physics of walking 10 meters will take a couple of days of knob twisting, keyframing, physics and kinetics with the rig, morphing, lighting, gravity and fluid dynamics -> then the 5 hour render for 20 seconds, to find out that it glitches in places you didn't even change.

Traditional animation is for autists and sadomasochists, and it is the fault of the software developers. You can't make anything worth while without at least 6 months to a year of training. Whereas AI gen, you at least get something decent out. Maybe not exactly to your high standards of detail... but often the mistakes are also kinda hot and a starting point at least. You can't say the same EVER with tradition Blender/Maya animations.

I agree that for what it is, it is not terrible. I just wish it wasn't what it is but that it was something else. It has the problems we will run into for the time being with what AI can do and what it cannot do. It does not remember a character, their face, their hair, their physical features - none of it. Technically you'd have to describe for literally every single frame and that gets you nowhere. Not even the best LORAs can guarantee you the same character every time, which imho is deadly for longer films. The same goes for the environments. Then there is the obvious lack of control over what the characters actually do because you are not positioning them yourself. And then there are miro-specific issues such as the insistence on a medieval setting and ridiculously oversized dicks that boldly venture out of the territory of the erotic and bungle right into the territory of the laughable.

Long story short: This is a 17-minute AI video that is probably as good as it gets today. But 17-minute AI videos can not be very good yet. And no amount of time thrown at what I expect is some setup of ComfyUI will fix that.

Edit: But I also agree with rjlee: at least it's two hot chicks with nice tits going at and not some grotesque beast or video game character with tragically absurd proportions.

 

[TheGreatCornholio]

Let's not pretend that 3d animation in Blender/Maya is akin to some sort of Dickensian coal mining from the 1880s. Yes it's difficult work it requires both technical skill and artistic vision, but it's just work. Plenty of people do it nine to five and make a living out of it. Miro established himself by making 3-4 movies in about 5 years and for G4E and DLCs he was still working a day job while doing it.

I could also understand Miro getting burned out if he actually released anything of worth since 2018. But he didn't.

The sets were mostly done by other artists and most of his short videos were done by people he was training in Blender (another Miro lie). If he was tired of the Bloodlust setting he could have gone back to the much awaited G4E, or do something else completely. He is definitely doing enough $$$ from his store to not give a fuck about what people think.

He lied about the next Bloodlust for years, then did a VN based on a set and he lied about that one as well and abandoned it. At any point in the last 7 years he could have come forward and say "Guys I am fucking tired of doing 3d animations." He didn't. He lied. He always said he was working on the big release in the background.

Heck even at the start of this AI craze he proudly stated that what he always wanted to do is a game (never fucking mentioned once since I've been following him on his old forum and patreon since 2013) and that's why he's abandoning 3d movies and the Flying High VN. Haven't heard a peep about that game in years...

 

[TheGreatCornholio]

I agree that for what it is, it is not terrible. I just wish it wasn't what it is but that it was something else. It has the problems we will run into for the time being with what AI can do and what it cannot do. It does not remember a character, their face, their hair, their physical features - none of it. Technically you'd have to describe for literally every single frame and that gets you nowhere. Not even the best LORAs can guarantee you the same character every time, which imho is deadly for longer films. The same goes for the environments. Then there is the obvious lack of control over what the characters actually do because you are not positioning them yourself. And then there are miro-specific issues such as the insistence on a medieval setting and ridiculously oversized dicks that boldly venture out of the territory of the erotic and bungle right into the territory of the laughable.

Long story short: This is a 17-minute AI video that is probably as good as it gets today. But 17-minute AI videos can not be very good yet. And no amount of time thrown at what I expect is some setup of ComfyUI will fix that.

Edit: But I also agree with rjlee: at least it's two hot chicks with nice tits going at and not some grotesque beast or video game character with tragically absurd proportions.

Yes it's not an abomination against god, it's just sad to see this from the dude that was at the top of the futa 3d animation game.

And the problem is that AI animations may never get to the required levels of consistency. LLMs seem to not be getting better no matter how much more compute power they're throwing at them and the companies putting out these AI tools are spending hundreds of billions to barely make tens of millions. Chat GPT 5 was a downgrade compared to 4 because OpenAI's focus was mainly to lower costs. It's not being called a bubble for no reason.
I do believe in progress and things getting better, but simply declaring THIS better than the old stuff, partly because of the belief that it will continue to improve is ridiculous.

I agree on the last point 110% and that's why I'm so sad about Miro being a liar and trying to pretend ai slop is superior to his old work. Most artists in the futa animation space use game models, especially ugly models from games like Injustice. This is the tragedy of Miro, his models were perfectly beautiful and now they're gone forever to be replaced by AI hallucinations that will never look the same if you want a different angle of them.

 

[JAV4Life]

Miro sticks to gorgeous models and what every normal red blooded American wants to see - models that are actually slim, sexy, huge boobs on a normal sized ass and legs.

you forgot to mention the 15inch cocks some of these women have

 

[JohnCusack]

Time for an update! Miro has released some really nice AI videos in 2025 with gorgeous models.

 

[xxxDreamZzz]

I hope the mods allow this, because I know they hate when we just chat about shit here... but I would like to reply to the rjlee request, and also to put away some misconceptions of what AI can do today and moving forward. I will try to keep it short and if I may add some links or at least some websites to check out if anyone is serious about getting into this game of AI gens (?).

This is all specifically for creating video locally (your own computer) as it stands today 23. Oct. 25.

First the rig:
You're going to need at least a 4090 with 24gb VRAM. If you can afford more VRAM, do it.

Image to video (i2v), video to video (v2v), and even text to video (t2v) eats VRAM in the 10's of gigabytes. Part of the reason we're not seeing more "professional-looking" long form AI videos (porn), is because most people just don't have the need outside of AI gen to justify the cost. There are some places that allow adult content to be generated online with 5090's with up to 48 gb VRAM, but it will cost you and is not recommended for experimenting.

Beyond the CUDA Card, you will need a beefy power plant, and fast SSDs and or NVME. Individual diffusion models run anywhere from 12 - 22gb, not including style LoRas and any additional tools needed like controlnets. Having 4 - 8 TB of fast storage is a must. To round it out, as much system RAM as you can afford, with 32gb a bare minimum. 64, 96 or 128gb will always be better. REASON: when you go over the limit of VRAM, if things can be pushed to RAM it's better than to disk.

Currently and for the foreseeable future, ComfyUI is the only GUI software that gets all of the new models and LoRas working within days of being released. Wan2.2.2 is a current go-to for many people.

Consistency tools: many are being added daily, like controlnets (models that convert actual video to posing rigs like in Blender) for v2v and i2v (uses a picture as source material for faces, figures and characters).

More info can be found on a number of Reddit channels, and of course the mega repository CivitAI (you MUST make an account to view adult content and download workflows/models/loras).

You must be registered to see the links

that I shared just a couple of months ago. The quality increase over the last 2 months is immense, and more and more animation style videos are starting to show up.

NOTE: all of the videos in the showcase above are made on CivitAI, and why they are short clips rather than longer edited videos. Those types of videos you will find on Reddit/RedGIF and

You must be registered to see the links

where you can see our friend Miro,and some other people experimenting with longer form video and styled animations. IMHO CivitAI is still the best, because if you want to try something, you can right there.

All in all, I definitely think another year and we will be drowning in good -> excellent content that is more styled, rather than everyone trying to be Gawd and create the next "realistic pornstar". I'm here and into AI for 3 years now, because normal bodies bore the fuck outa me.

 

[The Watchr]

toomanytext.jpg. IMO Old content he made (non-AI, e.g, bloodlust cerene) Is one of the best I've seen, and I've seen a lot. I've just seen this 1.84 GB AI-vid and I think he buried himself going AI-video-making. I would even pay monthly If he kept making stuff like bloodlust cerene. Anyway, have a happy fap!

 

[Coffeeslave23]

I hope the mods allow this, because I know they hate when we just chat about shit here... but I would like to reply to the rjlee request, and also to put away some misconceptions of what AI can do today and moving forward. I will try to keep it short and if I may add some links or at least some websites to check out if anyone is serious about getting into this game of AI gens (?).

This is all specifically for creating video locally (your own computer) as it stands today 23. Oct. 25.

First the rig:
You're going to need at least a 4090 with 24gb VRAM. If you can afford more VRAM, do it.

Image to video (i2v), video to video (v2v), and even text to video (t2v) eats VRAM in the 10's of gigabytes. Part of the reason we're not seeing more "professional-looking" long form AI videos (porn), is because most people just don't have the need outside of AI gen to justify the cost. There are some places that allow adult content to be generated online with 5090's with up to 48 gb VRAM, but it will cost you and is not recommended for experimenting.

Beyond the CUDA Card, you will need a beefy power plant, and fast SSDs and or NVME. Individual diffusion models run anywhere from 12 - 22gb, not including style LoRas and any additional tools needed like controlnets. Having 4 - 8 TB of fast storage is a must. To round it out, as much system RAM as you can afford, with 32gb a bare minimum. 64, 96 or 128gb will always be better. REASON: when you go over the limit of VRAM, if things can be pushed to RAM it's better than to disk.

Currently and for the foreseeable future, ComfyUI is the only GUI software that gets all of the new models and LoRas working within days of being released. Wan2.2.2 is a current go-to for many people.

Consistency tools: many are being added daily, like controlnets (models that convert actual video to posing rigs like in Blender) for v2v and i2v (uses a picture as source material for faces, figures and characters).

More info can be found on a number of Reddit channels, and of course the mega repository CivitAI (you MUST make an account to view adult content and download workflows/models/loras).

You must be registered to see the links

that I shared just a couple of months ago. The quality increase over the last 2 months is immense, and more and more animation style videos are starting to show up.

NOTE: all of the videos in the showcase above are made on CivitAI, and why they are short clips rather than longer edited videos. Those types of videos you will find on Reddit/RedGIF and

You must be registered to see the links

where you can see our friend Miro,and some other people experimenting with longer form video and styled animations. IMHO CivitAI is still the best, because if you want to try something, you can right there.

All in all, I definitely think another year and we will be drowning in good -> excellent content that is more styled, rather than everyone trying to be Gawd and create the next "realistic pornstar". I'm here and into AI for 3 years now, because normal bodies bore the fuck outa me.

How do you make ai videos using CivitAI, whats the process?

 

[StickyJammedPotato]

How do you make ai videos using CivitAI, whats the process?

Make an account and hit "Create" at the top of the page. Follow the prompts and pay the money.

 

[vutaboss]

I can't fucking believe we have Miro apologists in this thread right now.

Lest we forget he ran one of the longest cons in 3d smut history.

 

[Cris Dark]

i was curious. So here it is:

Mega

Thank you sooooo much for your sacrifice, i love Miro and his amazing work <3

 

[bobthebuilder223]

Thank you sooooo much for your sacrifice, i love Miro and his amazing work <3

His what now?

 

[Tupok]

Thank you sooooo much for your sacrifice, i love Miro and his amazing work <3

This guys confounding me. The only thing i can say is he has bad eyes, or, for some reason, Miro made an account to post here because they were mad people thought his Ai slop was bad. Which it objectively is.

 

[TheGreatCornholio]

You'd be surprised how much positive feedback he's getting on patreon. Only like 10-20% of all comments are pointing out how shit shit is compared to old 3d stuff when it comes to consistency. The age of the AI slop consuming internet rando has arrived

 

[JAV4Life]

most of his supporters are the kind of people who have money and want gooning content for the least possible effort, which is why they're happy to pay.

 

[girlzort]

I do think A.i will be capable of a lot of stuff soonTM. And I'm even "ok" with him doing this. But don't bring it as if you (he) are creating amazing works of art. And sell it for stupidly cheap cause for now its still 'bad'. $1-2,5 max, not 15. As the quality improves maybe higher prices.

But on top of that there are also other reasons for not liking him/his 'work'. Finish other stuff, better/clear communication and so on.

 

[Banana183]

We will never see Sayako and Tara again, and Miro decided to let BC die in favor of AI. Nothing I've seen compares to G4E and BC in terms of quality to tell you the truth. Those videos were ahead of their time and videos still look better than anything else till this day. It is sad since he has moved on from actually putting effort in his job and now became a lazy mf.

like what’s his issue, I don’t understand? He’s got a lot of supporters ever since he opened his patreon page, and still disappointed every one with delays and cancellations. He can literally pay people to do his job but won’t do it. Every time someone makes a valid point criticizing him, he literally responds like if he’s stupid, avoiding the actual issue.

Like someone else once said, Miro is the typical guy with ADHD who does well in class but stops attending school

 

[rjlee]

You'd be surprised how much positive feedback he's getting on patreon. Only like 10-20% of all comments are pointing out how shit shit is compared to old 3d stuff when it comes to consistency. The age of the AI slop consuming internet rando has arrived

At this point, fans of 3d porn dont have much choice. All of the best animators have disappeared, turned into lazy exploitative hacks, or can barely churn out content.

With Miro, assuming he actually releases the rest of Aveline by Dec which is my prediction given the way he constantly lies about delays, that means his fans will have had 30 minutes of AI porn and a dozen shorts in 3 months.

Compare that with what Jackerman fans have had to deal with, Wildeer, perfectdeadbeat, etc etc. Even the more reliable ones can only churn out 2-3 minutes of content every 2-3 months due to technology constraints.

So either we have to accept semi regular AI slop or wait 5 years for a Jackerman level long form movie.