I have decided to take on the impossible, I have decided to create a list of every sentient monster that can pass the Harkness test. To make things harder on myself because I hate myself apparently I created list of 7 qualities that can make something a monster. At the moment I am working through creatures and deities from world religions in alphabetical order and have only made it the letter B (Why did I do this to myself?) as such I have not worked on anything from pop culture . If any of you would like to assist me in my effort in creating a Monster Fucker Handbook (I'm working on the title) It would be greatly appreciated, simply leave a replay to this or send me a message of pop culture monsters you think could fit into this work. For example I am thinking that certain SCPs could fit this classification or maybe Video game characters I am unfamiliar with. I have nothing to offer in exchange except my gratitude
Monster Fuckers I need your help
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I don't think you can find a universal definition of a "monster" in the first place. For example if you stood Goku, the Terminator and the Hulk next to each other the Hulk would clearly be the most outwardly monstrous (very important for porn art) yet he's the most human of the three in both character and physiology. On the other end I doubt a being such as Dormammu or the TARDIS can comprehend our interpretation of "informed consent" even if they were inclined to respect it.
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Heh. Yeah, to find some monsters you need not look any further than fellow 2 legged ones.
Thats an issue I have already work on with a friend who chose to stay unnamed, we created a list of 8 boxes to check (I made a typo in the original post) the first and most check box is effectively can this thing consent, is it of human level of intelligence (or higher), is it of age, can it communicate consent verbal and/or psychicly, and does it have sentience. Now with this in mind if any one of these criteria are not meet it can not be on the list. So Hulk (yes some of the personalities are intelligent but not all there for Hulk and all varients are off the list) and the Terminator cannot be on this list how ever goku could go on the list. The Tardis and its species by this logic cannot go on the list either as it is unable to communicate consent in an effective manor. Dormammu will be added to the list because he does check on this box and several others, realisticly he is unfuckable but the list is just asking in theory is it ethical to do the deed with this entity. I do appericate the feed back my friend and I are thankful for your input.
How do you measure that? GLaDOS in the original Portal is an incredibly powerful supercomputer but her emotional maturity and overall sanity leave much to be desired, to the point we cannot reasonably assume she would truly comprehend basic human interactions (despite analysing them while using the humans as lab rats). Xenomorphs clearly possess some level of self-awareness and regularly outsmart humans, but only in "primitive" and "uncivilised" ways. The Zerg Overmind definitely could understand humans if it wanted to (it doesn't). Geth and
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become more intelligent the more of them group together, both are well below humans individually but at least the former can greatly outpace humans within the same body size.By what standard?
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's how messy it gets just with real-life humans. Do "dog years" apply? Remilia and Flandre from Touhou are centuries "old" but mentally stuck as young girls for the most part. Shinichi/Conan should be 18+ by now but Conan's body is a child's, with his adult mind fully intact. Star Wars Clonetroopers and the like can grow to full physical and emotional maturity in months or less. Timelords could presumably regenerate into a "younger than 18 years" body with a weird mix of incarnation-specific immaturity and centuries of wisdom. Some fairies or the like might regularly reform with full memory loss, or even exist outside of time altogether.You're missing writing, sign language and most importantly body language. If it can understand humans, is 2+m tall and not restrained or drugged it's definitely consenting, by virtue of not squishing you.
See the first point.
Well, not under normal conditions
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...Also on the other end the list needs some kind of exclusion criterion for being too close to humans. Catgirls and the like aren't "pure humans" but calling them "monsters" is a bit misleading too. It's a bit of a loaded term, for example neither we nor in-universe humans would typically call Asari "monsters" but if one broke out the biotics in a real life bar fight we definitely would. And we also call biological humans monsters for particularly immoral behaviour, meanwhile neither Samus Aran nor 2B are biologically human.
Alright lets work this out top to bottom,
For Human intelligence includes both emotional and intellectual maturity, additional if we have any debate on if something is lacking in either of these we behave in the rational manor and exclude them, GLaDOS off the list. Xenomorphs from my limited understanding do posses some measure of intellect but without any evidence that I am a where of in which they exhibit that intellect we have to be safe and keep it off the list. Both I and my friend are unfamiliar with the lore of Zerg's so until I do research they will stay off the list. We are also unfamiliar with Geth and Skritt but from your description they sound like a hive mind, as interesting as hive minds are if an individual aspect can not consent or is lacking in any other aspect it's off the list.
In terms of adulthood it does get messy personally I think that 21 is what I would consider "adult" for humans my partner considers 18 to be "adult" so when in doubt to keep things simple (and after much debate) it was decided that when in doubt the older the better. Furthermore for nonhumans we all ways play it safe, "adult" refers to both physically post puberty and intellectually capable of self determination and again when in doubt, TAKE IT OFF THE LIST! "dog years" in this sense is complicated taking Clones as an example we have the so called dog years of the reaching both of the maturity indicators can work, yes they are young BUT they are fully mature in both of these categories. Going back to the Touhou Remilia and others they are in your own words, children and therefore off the list. Timelords also fall into the same issue just on the other side of the spectrum, the same would go for MonsterGirl from the Invincible series, lacking physical maturity causes them to be off the list.
Oh boy the things we forgot. :/ oops we both forgot sign language exists. YIKES! Sign language works for consenting as long as a "safe word" of some sort is available incase the non verbal partner has a change of heart. Body language is a very slippery scope if you examine the Harkness test (yes its meme and what started our journey) it does address this, body language is ENTIRELY speculative even among members of the same species. A drunken frat boy staring at your tits from across the bar usually means they consent, however the same action done by any number of individuals could mean that they are just a pervert (I am guilty of this myself a certain points of intoxication. Sorry.) So no body language does not green light you to fuck monster and/or non-humanoid creatures.
Regarding the but link, that episode of Doctor Who is an exception to the norm, in our humble opinion one should not fuck the TARDIS. If you disagree that is okay, but in our understanding it is a no go.
Almost humans CAN be on the list, however they are not a shoe-in automatically. Once again there are several other qualifying factors. After about an hour we decided that a "monster" must check off 3 of the three check boxes at least, ADDITIONALLY 1 of the boxes must be intelligence.
For reference I will put down the 7 other boxes below. (the formatting did not like being on this site so it looks bad sorry)
Non-humanoid body
Particularly in shape and composition
Unusual mouth/digestive intake
Dissimilar anatomy
Feathers on mammals or antlers on a fish for example
Abnormal number of limbs
NOT 2 legs and 2 arms
Supernatural abilities
Inexplicable flight, shapeshifting, and regeneration are a few
Otherworldly Origin
Does not fit the description of living
Particularly in the case of spirits, silicon-based life forms, robots, and the like
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The Geth are an interesting case here because they are a dynamically adjustable hivemind. They are instances of computer programs (think "NFT memes" rather than "script anyone can copy-paste from stackexchange") and the more you have in contact with one another on the same "platform" (robot body) the more aware and intelligent they become. It is somewhat implied that individual "programs" possess some rudimentary sense of self on their own but that does not matter as those sharing a platform operate on the notion of consensus and form what we perceive as an individual.
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, the Geth team member, for all intents and purposes is as much of a person as any biological life form on the team. Where it gets messy is various jokes and fanfiction ideas, such as housing smaller numbers of Geth programs in e.g. vibrators or the like. You basically have an "intelligence slider" ranging from "ant" to "superhuman" as individual programs can transfer themselves from one platform to another almost instantaneously.By contrast the Zerg Overmind basically is a single will, a single "soul" which may or may not have had its own dedicated body originally. Through the hivemind it can manifest its will and awareness in any connected zerg creature, even in many of them at the same time. The minions themselves are feral, somewhere between natural animals and non-AI robots built of biological hardware but it does present its own unique body later in the story so ignore any qualms about the minions sharing the experience. Now the issue with fucking the Overmind itself is that it does not understand human emotions or notions of consent. It definitely could understand them if it had any motivation to do so, it certainly has the necessary intelligence and awareness of the physical world. But it follows a strict Social Darwinist ideology and dismisses any effort or notion which does not further the evolutionary improvement of the zerg. Basically if the zerg were suddenly dropped into the world of the Carebears or My Little Pony where friendship and positive emotions hold real tangible power they would adapt to incorporate them, but Starcraft is more akin to Starship Troopers or "40K lite" so they prefer the "more bugs, more acid" approach.
Obviously as presented that's an easy argument to exclude the Overmind. But the same arguments you would use to justify it apply to most real life adult racists and possibly some sociopaths or other psychologically "abnormal" humans. People who can and do have safe, sane and consensual sex in real life.
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If there's something like a monster that would be appealing, How about things like a succubus with fuckable nipples or a creature with tentacles that end in vaginal orifices? There's 2 kind of extremes there and there can be a wide range in there. I guess the expectation of what is a monster can also vary by age. I don't see dogs or animals as monsters but my kid does cuz of Silent Hill.
For example, say someone evil makes a game where you're in a sexy version of Silent Hill called Silent Swallows where instead of killing you, they want to rape you and it's either on their terms or yours. If you consider zombies, ghost, and the supernatural as monsters, that's something I could easy get behind and stick it into, if you know what I mean. Technically, some monsters can resemble animals like the zombie dogs or birds on Silent Hill but it's not something I'd be interested in but you never know. If the monster looks less feral, then I might try flirting with it. But you never know. Honestly, in my opinion, someone would have to try making games with their version and style of monsters and gauge the reaction then go from there.
For example, say someone evil makes a game where you're in a sexy version of Silent Hill called Silent Swallows where instead of killing you, they want to rape you and it's either on their terms or yours. If you consider zombies, ghost, and the supernatural as monsters, that's something I could easy get behind and stick it into, if you know what I mean. Technically, some monsters can resemble animals like the zombie dogs or birds on Silent Hill but it's not something I'd be interested in but you never know. If the monster looks less feral, then I might try flirting with it. But you never know. Honestly, in my opinion, someone would have to try making games with their version and style of monsters and gauge the reaction then go from there.
As much as I enjoy horror movies and games I am very much a proponent of consent, this list I am working on revolves around "monsters" that are sentient, inhuman, and have reproductive organs (for obvious reasons). Ghost and zombies and ghouls Oh my! While traditional media potrayes these creature as little more than mindless animals, but in world religion ranging from japan, ireland, and the native people of the Americas often show that they can be sentient. For example when popular media mention "banshees" they are mindless wailing ghost but in Irish folklore banshees are a spirit that morn the death of love ones.
This all a very round about way of saying we are looking of sentient "inhuman" creatures. If you look at the prior conversation we had with Sphere42 many of your other questions maybe answered. Thank you for your input
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Okay, not gonna lieat first I thought the title read "Mother Fuckers I Need Your Help" at it popped an image of Sam Jackson playing Nick Fury into my mind.
So here you go. Now we can all get that image stuck in our heads.
How long until the next Avengers?
Ah nevemind. I'm already way off topic anyhow.
So here you go. Now we can all get that image stuck in our heads.
How long until the next Avengers?
Ah nevemind. I'm already way off topic anyhow.