VN Ren'Py My femdom Renp'y game pitch!

[Mwaysinful]

More ideas. The problem with vanilla games or even femdom games, is that they have too much feet or pussy licking or pegging, or they generically replicate practices we have seen too many times, but if the game focuses on chastity and orgasm denial, the author is forced to implement new creative ideas, and there are a lot ideas that can be implemented with complementary fetishes to chastity and orgasm denial.

I may also like when all the practices are forced, but it is easier to do it and we already have a lot of femdom hardcore games in which the MC ends un being just a slave and forced to do everything, and I think it is more interesting to focus in the phycological aspects and power dynamics. But it is more difficult to do it (and make it believable) if there is consent or non-consensual consent. In other words, that instead of having been forced, Rei would have seduced and convinced or persuaded MC to do these practices voluntarily. It might be easier to make it believable in chastity or orgasm denial focused femdom game, because Rei could exchange acceptance of certain practices in exchange for cumming or being unlocked for X time or reduce the time in chastity. More ideas:

- Possession of the key by the keyholder: a lot of femdom games have chastity keys but they do not focus on the key, nor on the phychological processes or power dynamics behind it. Rei could carry the key in her everyday clothing, on her neck, on her ankle, in her navel if she had a piercing there. This should be subtle, because it is ridiculous to wear a common key around your neck as a necklace. For example, it could be like this, which is a real chastity key by the way:



It would be very hot, and related to public humiliation, if Rei used to dress and walk around with the key, but only MC and Rei would know that it is the key to the MC cage. It would be specially hot if Rei publish photos showing the key on social media, specially if there were photos with her boyfriend showing the key.

- Edge and denial: this is hardly seen in femdom games. Rei could tease MC a lot, and make him jerk off to frenzy in front of her, until just before he came, she could forbide him to cum and lock him again or end the session with a ruined orgasm and lock him again.

- Ballbusting/CBT: in most femdom games, it is implemented in a boring way. There could be kicks, squeezing, slap the balls, knee blows. MC could be standing until a strong blow made him to fall to his knees, he could be on all fours and Rei could kick him in the balls from behind.

And again, regarding the focus in chastity or orgasm denial, CBT could be introduced in a situation in which MC has been unlocked from chastity, but when it comes to locking up him again, he is still erect and Rei can not lock him up. Rei, irritated, could ballbust him until the erection goes away and can lock him again in chastity.

This could be implemented as well in the same situation, going MC and Rei to the bathroom and Rei makes him shower with very cold water and/or directing the shower head with very cold water to MC´s genitals until the erection goes away and she can lock him again in chastity.

Or Rei makes him kneel and put his balls on a ice pack until the erection goes away.

- Netorase: this is personal, but I prefer it when there is no cheating or forcing. I like this too but there are already a lot of femdom games with this fetish. It would be much sexier if Rei seduced MC and convinced or persuaded him to accept she had sexual relations with other men or women. It is harder to make this believable compared to cheating or forced, but it is easier to make it credible in a chastity/orgasm denial focused game, since MC would be locked and he could not have sexual relations with Rei. His rol would be to satisfy her o make her happy in other ways, and her sexual needs would be met by other men or women.

Well, I hope this serves as inspiration! Looking forward to updates. If you think it is okay and I feel like it, I can write here from time to time to comment and try to contribute more ideas.

 

[LoidM42]

- Possession of the key by the keyholder: a lot of femdom games have chastity keys but they do not focus on the key, nor on the phychological processes or power dynamics behind. Rei could carry the key in her everyday clothing, on her neck, on her ankle, in her navel if she had a piercing there. This should be subtle, because it is ridicolous to wear a key around your neck as a neckace, por example:

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It would be very hot, and related to public humiliation, if Rei used to dress and walk around with the key, but only MC and Rei would know that it is the key to the MC cage. It would be specially hot if Rei publish photos showing the key, specially if they were photos with her boyfriend.

I always loved this idea of wearing a key on her ankle or neck. Maybe it an idea for the different heroines to wear them in different places?
Speaking of which I made a custom key model for Koikatsu which is heart shapedlike in the image (unreleased to the public) If anyone is interested I could send it.

- Netorase: this is personal, but I prefer it when there is no cheating or forcing. I like this too but there are already a lot of femdom games with this fetish. It would be much sexier if Rei seduced MC and convinced or persuaded him to accept she had sexual relations with other men or women. It is harder to make this believable compared to cheating or forced, but it is easier to make it credible in a chastity/orgasm denial focused game, since MC would ne locked and he could not have sexual relations with Rei. His rol would be to satisfy her o make her happy in other ways, and her sexual needs would be met by other men or women.

I think netorase is ALWAYS hotter when the heroine gets off on the act of cucking rather than the other guys simply having a bigger dick or something. Also makes the relationship dynamic a lot more fun, because otherwise it's no different than her simply cheating on him because sex with other men is better, it feels hotter and more kinky if she is ESPECIALLY into cucking.
A lot of netorase I see is MC asks heroine to cheat on him (or she simply does and stockholms him later) and then has an end scene of her saying goodbye to MC because sex with others is better. It would also make way more sense for heroine and MC to still love eachother because they are both really into Netorase.

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

I hope you give both types of endings the same amount of loves, I for one am not that much into extreme abuse. And I have seen a lot of games do a wholesome and a cruel ending and the wholesome ending often just shows an end screen and that's it...
Also seen a lot of those cruel endings feature fetishes I DO like, but they are implemented in such gruesome and brutal way, so I do hope that the wholesome endings don't tone down the kinks but rather just the way they are implemented, I like wholesome endings but not vanilla endings.

Just finished writing the cruel ending scene, I don't think it's too abusive, it fits with the chastity T&D theme. I just think that some players might be disturbed by it, so I'll make an alternative, tamer ending (still chastity T&D focused, I have quite a few ideas as to how it could go, and how it can "mirror" the other ending)

And again, regarding the focus in chastity or orgasm denial, CBT could be introduced in a situation in which MC has been unlocked from chastity, but when it comes to locking up him again, he is still erect and Rei can not lock him up. Rei, irritated, could ballbust him until the erection goes away and can lock him again in chastity.

This could be implemented as well in the same situation, going MC and Rei to the bathroom and Rei makes him shower with very cold water and/or directing the shower head with very cold water to MC´s genitals until the erection goes away and she can lock him again in chastity.

Or Rei makes him kneel and put his balls on a ice pack until the erection goes away.

all of these sound so hot, and I think I know exactly how I'd add it to the game (as Rei's the T&D girl, not the CBT one, Ig you didn't see this post, right?)

- Netorase: this is personal, but I prefer it when there is no cheating or forcing. I like this too but there are already a lot of femdom games with this fetish. It would be much sexier if Rei seduced MC and convinced or persuaded him to accept she had sexual relations with other men or women. It is harder to make this believable compared to cheating or forced, but it is easier to make it credible in a chastity/orgasm denial focused game, since MC would be locked and he could not have sexual relations with Rei. His role would be to satisfy her o make her happy in other ways, and her sexual needs would be met by other men or women.

Another insanely good idea!

Well, I hope this serves as inspiration! Looking forward to updates. If you think it is okay and I feel like it, I can write here from time to time to comment and try to contribute more ideas.

ofc it's okay! I have plenty of ideas, but it wouldn't hurt to have more

 

[LoidM42]

Just finished writing the cruel ending scene, I don't think it's too abusive, it fits with the chastity T&D theme. I just think that some players might be disturbed by it, so I'll make an alternative, tamer ending (still chastity T&D focused, I have quite a few ideas as to how it could go, and how it can "mirror" the other ending)

Think maybe you could add something like a kiss and affirmations of love to the tamer one. One ending could be the full-on femdom ending and the other one the lovers femdom ending.

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

Think maybe you could add something like a kiss and affirmations of love to the tamer one. One ending could be the full-on femdom ending and the other one the lovers femdom ending.

in both she reaffirms him that she loves him and she kisses him, just what Rei does to mc in the crueler endingmakes it the crueler ending

 

[LoidM42]

in both she reaffirms him that she loves him and she kisses him, just what Rei does to mc in the crueler endingmakes it the crueler ending

Hmm, wonder how bad the cruel ending is then, because honestly genuine care and affirmation of love is the one thing that I'm looking for in a tame ending. I usually tend to dislike cruel ending because they are devoid of these factors. Now I'm kinda curious about the cruel ending.

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

Hmm, wonder how bad the cruel ending is then, because honestly genuine care and affirmation of love is the one thing that I'm looking for in a tame ending. I usually tend to dislike cruel ending because they are devoid of these factors. Now I'm kinda curious about the cruel ending.

it's going to be cruel in other ways, think of Escalation!'s tease and denial/ breath control ending. mc ends up as her personal toy, locked in chastity and in her closet, only experiencing freedom once a month, when she decides to play with him. Rei's cruel ending isn't going to be exactly that, I'm just giving an example of an ending I'd consider cruel/ disturbing that still has her loving him and (as she says in the game) missing him and feeling lonely when he's locked in her closet.

If you don't find that ending disturbing/ extreme (I did for a bit, mainly because of the dehumanization of mc and his loss of freedom, Rei's ending won't have any of the two), I think you'll like Rei's cruel ending

P.s. would love if you'd send me the Koikatsu heart key model you created (I assume I would find it using the search bar and would use it as a normal object?)

 

[LoidM42]

it's going to be cruel in other ways, think of Escalation!'s tease and denial/ breath control ending. mc ends up as her personal toy, locked in chastity and in her closet, only experiencing freedom once a month, when she decides to play with him. Rei's cruel ending isn't going to be exactly that, I'm just giving an example of an ending I'd consider cruel/ disturbing that still has her loving him and (as she says in the game) missing him and feeling lonely when he's locked in her closet.

If you don't find that ending disturbing/ extreme (I did for a bit, mainly because of the dehumanization of mc and his loss of freedom, Rei's ending won't have any of the two), I think you'll like Rei's cruel ending

I see so that's the kind of ending it is, personally I'm really not into endings this cruel. Not only because it is dehumanizing, but also feels really selfish and uncaring from the heroine's side.
Honestly am sad that escalation didn't have a positive ending, imo it already started too escalated to begin with. Like went from hard femdom to extreme in every ending. Was probably the most polished 3d femdom VN's I played.

P.s. would love if you'd send me the Koikatsu heart key model you created (I assume I would find it using the search bar and would use it as a normal object?)

You got anywhere I can send it to? it's installed like a normal koikatsu mod the keys name can be searched as "Silver Heart Key" in both studio and character. but I accidentally duplicated it so in studio you might see it twice

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

I see so that's the kind of ending it is, personally I'm really not into endings this cruel. Not only because it is dehumanizing, but also feels really selfish and uncaring from the heroine's side.
Honestly am sad that escalation didn't have a positive ending, imo it already started too escalated to begin with. Like went from hard femdom to extreme in every ending. Was probably the most polished 3d femdom VN's I played.

Yeah, I also don't like that ending that much for the same reasons you wrote. (When she locked him in chastity I thought I'm on the route I'm going to like, but then that ending came...) Don’t worry, Rei’s cruel ending won’t be like that. It’s more about a different kind of cruelty (Rei would frame it as an act of love towards mc, not her being cruel) that some players might still find unsettling, but without taking away his humanity or most of his freedom. When I asked ChatGPT whether it would fit the game’s tone, it described it as "body horror adjacent"

You got anywhere I can send it to? it's installed like a normal koikatsu mod the keys name can be searched as "Silver Heart Key" in both studio and character. but I accidentally duplicated it so in studio you might see it twice

You can DM me here and send me a Gofile or Drive link

 

[LoidM42]

Yeah, I also don't like that ending that much for the same reasons you wrote. (When she locked him in chastity I thought I'm on the route I'm going to like, but then that ending came...) Don’t worry, Rei’s cruel ending won’t be like that. It’s more about a different kind of cruelty (Rei would frame it as an act of love towards mc, not her being cruel) that some players might still find unsettling, but without taking away his humanity or most of his freedom. When I asked ChatGPT whether it would fit the game’s tone, it described it as "body horror adjacent"

"Body horror adjacent" is certainly a way to describe torture... But I am glad you seem to do it in a more loving sense

You can DM me here and send me a Gofile or Drive link

I DM'd you

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

"Body horror adjacent" is certainly a way to describe torture... But I am glad you seem to do it in a more loving sense

I wouldn't call Rei's cruel ending torture in the classic sense lmao (I'd say it's about as much torture as being locked in chastity, you'll see when the ending comes out)

 

[LoidM42]

I wouldn't call it torture in the classic sense lmao (I'd say it's about as much torture as being locked in chastity)

Well, full-on sensory deprivation for an entire month and locked up by the person who's supposed to love you seems pretty torturous, It's like worse solitary confinement.

 

[Mwaysinful]

Is penis shrinkage planned through a chastity cage?

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

Is penis shrinkage planned through a chastity cage?

I do plan on making the cage mc wears smaller over time, so maybe his penis will also shrink. I haven't gotten to Rei locking his dick in chastity yet lol (Wrote the first scene, the cruel ending and almost finished with the KK renders of the first scene)

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

Hi guys! Just wanted to make sure- having belly (not necessarily fat or pregnant) worship and navel licking and fingering in the game (mc both giving and recieving), and having spit fetish themes in the game (like Rei spitting or drooling, licking up her spit, etc) won't turn you off, right?
I just don't want this to be an unpleasent surprise when the game releases (especially since these are my 2 biggest fetishes outside of femdom and would add a lot of elements from both fetishes)

Btw I started working on the second big scene with Rei, not sure when I should release the first version of the game (at its current state, it's ~15 mins of gameplay?)

 

[LoidM42]

Hi guys! Just wanted to make sure- having belly (not necessarily fat or pregnant) worship and navel licking and fingering in the game (mc both giving and recieving), and having spit fetish themes in the game (like Rei spitting or drooling, licking up her spit, etc) won't turn you off, right?
I just don't want this to be an unpleasent surprise when the game releases (especially since these are my 2 biggest fetishes outside of femdom and would add a lot of elements from both fetishes)

Btw I started working on the second big scene with Rei, not sure when I should release the first version of the game (at its current state, it's ~15 mins of gameplay?)

Belly fetish isn't really my thing, but won't be too big of a turn off.
Spitting is pretty fine for me, not really my thing outside of femdom tho

 

[FNM90]

Hi guys! Just wanted to make sure- having belly (not necessarily fat or pregnant) worship and navel licking and fingering in the game (mc both giving and recieving), and having spit fetish themes in the game (like Rei spitting or drooling, licking up her spit, etc) won't turn you off, right?
I just don't want this to be an unpleasent surprise when the game releases (especially since these are my 2 biggest fetishes outside of femdom and would add a lot of elements from both fetishes)

Btw I started working on the second big scene with Rei, not sure when I should release the first version of the game (at its current state, it's ~15 mins of gameplay?)

I just stumbled on this thread, and while I could give general opinions about fetishism and such, I realize your project is far too advanced already for them to be meaningful. Nonetheless, in general, I support the "the game is yours, so should implement whatever you like more" approach.

Regarding this last question, as I see it, a female spitting/drooling on a guy's mouth is not common, but not that uncommon either and considering what already is planned in the game (much more extreme stuff than that), I honestly don't see people quitting for this. This has far more potential to be arousing than disgusting (as long its well implemented).

Belly worship is uncommon, but not controversial. IRL, I would judge that "are you telling me I'm fat?" response would be more likely than a strong reproach like "this is sick!". A long graphic scene of navel licking (which in practice, is the "high point" of belly worship) on the other hand, may give some players goosebumps. Not saying that it shouldn't be there, just mentioning, as this was asked.

 

[IDONTHAVEANAME844]

I just stumbled on this thread, and while I could give general opinions about fetishism and such, I realize your project is far too advanced already for them to be meaningful.

I do plan Rei's path to be tease and denial focused, and have 3 more girls with each her own main fetish, but I'm kinda unsure which fetises the other 2 would have (I know what fetish another one will have, the other 2- no idea). If you have suggestions for the other 2 (has to be femdom ofc), lmk

 

[FNM90]

I do plan Rei's path to be tease and denial focused, and have 3 more girls with each her own main fetish, but I'm kinda unsure which fetises the other 2 would have (I know what fetish another one will have, the other 2- no idea). If you have suggestions for the other 2 (has to be femdom ofc), lmk

In my opinion, femdom is a broad umbrella that covers several practices. One major distinction that is often ignored/forgotten is that most of them usually have a soft and hard variation, where the soft one (kink or fetishism) isn't technically femdom actually and only the hard one is. Still, the soft isn't something usual and has a lot of appeal among a larger (still niche) audience.

Even tough femdom stands for female domination, displayed portraits in media usually involve discipline and sometimes "b" or "sm" as well. But the same practices are performed outside of this context.

For example:

Facesitting/anilingus/ass worship - there's the "slave domination setting" with optional "toilet dirty talking ramification", but the same scene can play out way less extreme with a guy that's only addicted to ass and feels the urge of getting it close and personal. On this scenario, it would be just natural that the female would masturbate him while she's on top, what could eventually lead to tease and denial (she stops before he cums so that the oral goes on, give a few moments and resumes) or post orgasm torture (she continues despite the orgasm because either she likes stroking or because she believes his muffled screams are from pleasure instead of pain. This would be the soft counterpart of the hard version of "stroking as a punishment to inflict pain/display control").

Even watersports (a big "no,no" for most people) have this distinction. It can be a structured ritual of "you are my slave, you're nothing, thefore I will use you as a bathroom to humilhate you and prove how powerless you are" or it can also play out as "I like when a female piss on my mouth and I spill out just because it's depraved and I'm very aroused for engaging nasty corrupted stuff" (the game fetish finder goes more or less this way as there's a clear distinction between "BDSM sub" route and "watersports" path).

Thefore, you can not only try multiple activities, but also select between intensity if you wish more variation between girls.

As all other stuff not implemented already may not be your cup of tea, I really see no problem if other girl's paths end up being shorter than the main LI.

 

[Mwaysinful]

Hi, how is the game going? I have to read the thread!!