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Zara Scarlet

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Yes you may have a point but there are good games that cheating happens where MC is not present and is still oblivious but not stupid or blind. It is not just about this game, except how cheating happens here, game is good.

Recently all the cheating games turns MC into stupid deaf and blind man like a child who has 5 years old mind and thing is in those games all cheating happens next to him. His wife not in his bed all night long even he see/hear people fucking and his wife opens door with cum in her mouth still nothing... and it pretty goes all the way till end...

If you ask me this is not just oblivious this is entirely something else and even I am someone who likes to play Ntr cheating route get annoyed and stop playing those games, that means something is really wrong here. The only thing that comes to my mind is that the developers can easily just focus on renders without bothering too much with the story that it makes sense or not. It does not matter as long as it goes.

For me these are good cheating games, recently played east block and MC's father fucked his wife in a motel, it was a great scene and it was a damn good cheating scene. MC may suspect but he was not there. Again, A Perfect Marriage, Exploring the Big Apple, Harmony Heaven, Burning Boundaries, RiseOfTheCrimeLord etc all the cheating happens normally and MC is oblivious and but not stupid.

I hope it changes for the better.

Thanks for the game.
I understand what you're saying, it's not perhaps your cup of tea. But it is for some people. The original commenter, of course was bemoaning that the cheating route, didn't include cuckolding content (which already has it's own route in this game). And I was just pointing that out.

My perspective is, that different people like different things. And what you hate, somebody invariably loves. And it doesn't matter how ridiculous you think a particular plot is, because some people will totally disagree with you, and will see stuff to really like about it, that you'll never see because you're not wired that way. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't point out what you hate about a particular game, because everybody does that, just like they say what they love about games. Just realise that it's a point of view, and not necessarily a fact. And what's clear to you, may not be clear or relevant to others.
 
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Mr.d00M

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I know what you mean, but I don't really like the idea of comparing different games... because everyone has their own way of doing things, and that's what makes them special. I understand that you liked the way those games you mentioned did things, but... I simply want to do it differently; I don't like those kinds of comparisons

So the thing with my game is... I like to approach NTR or cheating from a delusional perspective... In the sense that the protagonist might know what's going on, and imagines it's what he knows it is, but he refuses to believe it so much that his brain eliminates the possibility that his girlfriend is doing those things behind his back. I like to approach it that way, and that's what I tried to do here in this game... After reading a lot of comments, I realized I exaggerated quite a bit, like with the fact that the MC slept so much during the MC's POV in the cheating route... But overall, I feel like I captured the idea pretty well. Keep in mind that the protagonist loves Jenny so much, and he literally can't believe that such a hot girl is his girlfriend, and that they're even getting married... Everything is going perfectly, but then he suddenly feels or sees something that implies it's all going to fall apart... His brain, as a defense mechanism, automatically denies what he saw and thinks it's a different scenario. That's why I wanted to show that the MC was so unaware of everything that's happening... Even though what's going on is completely obvious. For example, talking about the "onsen" they went to... We, as players, see the silhouettes of what's happening. Those silhouettes are exactly what the MC sees. He's watching them have sex inside, but because he's so in denial about the idea that Jenny would be unfaithful, he fills in the blanks with other ideas, like Lisa actually being there with Tyrone, and Jenny being somewhere else. To give you a concrete example, when the MC sees the videos Jenny uploads of herself shaking her butt for Tyrone, or taking pictures of herself in her underwear for Tyrone, I wanted to portray that moment as a turning point. It's like the protagonist had already suspected something and felt nervous when he saw Jenny with Tyrone at the pool, but he let it go. And when he saw the video of Jenny shaking her butt, he felt his worst fears were confirmed, but he decided (perhaps subconsciously) not to dwell on it and also let it go. I liked this way of showing things and characterizing the MC. And I didn't think I had to explicitly state something like, "and the MC saw what was happening but refused to believe it and ignored it." I thought it was better to leave it implicit

Now, I admit it all sounds completely convoluted, but that was the idea I had when I made the MC behave that way. I think it would have been better to be more direct, but at least the idea is clear... Though I agree that I exaggerated in some places like making the MC sleep through all the final act in cheating route
It was not my intention to offend or comparing your game, sorry if it sounded that way. it was just my opinion how to cheat route should be, nothing else.

Yes onsen part exaggerated cheating route quite a bit.

Thanks for the game.
 
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Sieglinnde

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It was not my intention to offend or comparing your game
Nah it's fine I know you don't mean it and I am happy that you enjoyed the game... It's just that sometimes people get really annoying comparing games and I have the opinion that each one has to do things its own way... But I understand what you meant, it's fine
 
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Mr.d00M

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I understand what you're saying, it's not perhaps your cup of tea. But it is for some people. The original commenter, of course was bemoaning that the cheating route, didn't include cuckolding content (which already has it's own route in this game). And I was just pointing that out.

My perspective is, that different people like different things. And what you hate, somebody invariably loves. And it doesn't matter how ridiculous you think a particular plot is, because some people will totally disagree with you, and will see stuff to really like about it, that you'll never see because you're not wired that way. I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't point out what you hate about a particular game, because everybody does that, just like they say what they love about games. Just realise that it's a point of view, and not necessarily a fact. And what's clear to you, may not be clear or relevant to others.
Yes I completely agree. Everyone has his/her own tastes. I only play vanilla and cheating route in a game and someone may have other tastes in the same routes or even does not play it and have other routes and tastes.
My reply just for the recent oblivious part for the cheating route and my opinion. We all are here stating our opinion after all.
Nothing against you or your comment as well. (y)
 
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Tatsugaya

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Personally, I’d prefer more options in the cheat route, like the MC slowly realizing what’s happening, getting a bit shaken at first but secretly wanting to see more and more — especially after checking the phone and finally understanding it’s his girl and his mom. To me, that’s way hotter than the classic clueless MC who hears obvious sex noises and thinks someone’s clapping hands. That type of obliviousness just gets annoying. Still, the scenes were great. Sieglinnde really knows how to build tension and craft the best sex moments.
The build-up and the way the provocative and sexual scenes are developed are excellent in this game. One of the strongest points, I would say, but in terms of story, it falls down to the point where I don't even care that much about the dialogues and especially the MC, he's pathetic, and I prefer to enjoy the sex scenes, which are amazing. There is always time for future improvements, however, MGwaT is the best work/game this dev has done so far.
 

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The build-up and the way the provocative and sexual scenes are developed are excellent in this game. One of the strongest points, I would say, but in terms of story, it falls down to the point where I don't even care that much about the dialogues and especially the MC, he's pathetic, and I prefer to enjoy the sex scenes, which are amazing. There is always time for future improvements, however, MGwaT is the best work/game this dev has done so far.
That’s why MGwaT became my favorite game — the models look incredible, and the scenes hit exactly the way they should. I just hope the dev doesn’t drop it too early, there’s still so much potential and so many directions to explore.
 

Pachirisu

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I love the way sex scenes are done in Sieglinnde's games, and they always managed to satisfy my interracial kink, but yeah the MCs are usually my only negative. In Tifa's Dark Heaven, Cloud has gotten better for me since the cuckold updates started, but I don't care for the oblivious ones. Unfortunately, the characters in Let the Nightshine In frustrated me too much so I dropped it pretty early. This game I really enjoy and the models and scenes have certainly gotten way better, but MC was a bit too oblivious on the cheating route. I don't mind if the guy is oblivious to the cheating, but I prefer it to be more realistic and not just delusional denial of whats going on in front of his own eyes.

HOWEVER I did take a peek at the Jenny POV(I'm sorry I was horny, forgive me) and I actually do enjoy that way more.
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I think if Sieglinnde made a game that was completely from the female POV, and we got to choose how/how much she cheated, then you could still have the oblivious MC and it still be engaging. A lot of other female protagonist cheating games do that, and I feel that would alleviate a lot of problems people probably have with the MC being so oblivious. Of course a game with more choices would be a lot more complicated to make and take more time. Just a thought I had.
 

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Overview:
Nick is driving around the city with his girlfriend Jenny, who suddenly suggests a threesome! The protagonist is nervous at first because of how calmly his girlfriend suggested it... And he never imagined the world of opportunities that the proposal would unleash!
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Thread Updated: 2025-12-04
Release Date: 2025-11-30
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Version: 3.0 Jenny Pov
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Can you make the ring in her nose optional? It's just gross!! Would love to play the game, but just can't.
 

Booba740

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Did I miss something... I didn't see Jenny's POV in cheating path. I am sorry can anyone help me out here. It didn't give me option too.
 
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