TheDuke9999

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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
i think you need to replay the VN a couple more times lol
 

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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
She both fancies and wants Christian, that was clear from the moment they met tbh. She gives the weakest attempts at resistance or no resistance at all and easily falls for Christians charms.
While I also think there was an element of Vivian feeling like she was fucking Christian for Hutch and his job, she definitely wanted to IMO. Even if she can't admit that to herself just yet.
 

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I highly doubt Viv is humiliating her hubby intentionally. It seems to be natural reactions emanating from coercion and the great sex. I can give examples, but if you've played the game, you won't need them. She's going to turn him into a pitiful cuckold, then the intentional part comes in.
Yeah, it's gonna be a slippery slope situation. She's already getting railed by Christian and with their newly "open" marriage Vivian is eventually going to start looking down on Hutch either when she starts noticing how many men are coming onto her or how many men are coming into her. I expect that sooner or later she won't be able to help herself but to start pitying her pathetic mess of a husband, especially if she keeps getting whatever men she wants while he gets no one.
 

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I go to sleep, and wake up to 5 pages of new posts... good job guys :)


I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.
I've become aware that Hutch is also always sad or angry. How about a few happy snaps of him too :)

so he knows she's cheating and he sort of likes it or is battling the demons on if he likes it but she doesn't know he feels this way hence why it's not a traditional cuck situation if that makes sense
There is no indication that i can determine that Hutch is enjoying any of this. Him pulling away from her when she is trying to kiss him or hold his hand is a good indication. Hopefully this will stay true, and it wont devolve into one of those typical shitty NTR games "Oh my wife is fucking someone else... why is my pee pee getting hard? oh i just came..." Barf!!

In Terms of scenarios for the ending, I'll re-link my suggested ones.
memory lane theories
and a slight continuation for the dark ending
 
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I go to sleep, and wake up to 5 pages of new posts... good job guys :)




I've become aware that Hutch is also always sad or angry. How about a few happy snaps of him too :)



There is no indication that i can determine that Hutch is enjoying any of this. Him pulling away from her when she is trying to kiss him or hold his hand is a good indication. Hopefully this will stay true, and it wont devolve into one of those typical shitty NTR games "Oh my wife is fucking someone else... why is my pee pee getting hard? oh i just came..." Barf!!

In Terms of scenarios for the ending, I'll re-link my suggested ones.
memory lane theories
and a slight continuation for the dark ending
A justice porn ending would make me cringe (n)
 

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Could you explain this better? What do you mean by that? I know it's Hutch's clothing, but I don't understand why it's not good to sniff.
It's Christian's. She is smelling his clothes to remind her of their sex-scapade the night before. Not a good sign.
 
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Personally .... I think in the backyard she said... look I know what you want I'll let you fuck me if you let Hutch keep his job...She volunteered but... it car a coercion of a job loss threat. As for the bedroom... the way they disagreed about sleeping in the BR .. to me says she was not wanting it... but she gave that look to Hutch as she went in and basically said...ok fuck me.....
Personally I thought there was a note in the dress box making reference to sex for hutches job
 

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She likes the sex with the boss not despite of or independently of the fact that he holds power over her husband, but BECAUSE of that and BECAUSE of its transactional and therefore "dirty" character. it makes it "count", it makes it feel as if there is something happening, which turns her on. She feels sexually empowered by her supposedly rescuing the situation by her sex and her attractiveness.
 
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i can agree with alot of your points but everytime knowing hutch is in the same house or office she doesnt care and willingly has sex with the boss.. it is just hard for me to believe she loves hutch more than she loves the sex with the boss.. why ? because of the choice she makes everytime .. all she has to say to the boss is lets meet at a hotel room.. but instead she give the boss what he wants, where he wants , when he wants
Ok let's say your theroy happens duke I don't think it's going to be as cut and dry that the ending will be she leaves hutch for Christian while that could happen I think there will be more to it so il give you three extras to go with that

1, Vivian leaves hutch for Christian so hutch hits breaking point and decides what does Christian love more than anything even sex ... Money it's always going to be money so he takes all of Christians money leaving him broke and crippling the company and it's as you've taken something I love so I'm gonna take the one thing you actually love ( also I don't think Christian is capable of loving another person outside of himself so even if Vivian is in love with him I don't see him returning it as he just isn't that person in my eyes )

2, Vivian leaves hutch for Christian and hutch is destroyed by it , Addison ( the niece) kills Christian for hutch to try and bring an end to his pain and misery after all there is that scene where she says under her breath that she would do anything for hutch and she means anything or something along those lines.. but she does it without hutch knowing anything about it until it comes out that he's dead and Addison is like look what I did for you hutch essentially it's a declaration of her love for him

3, hutch makes his peace with Vivian leaving and starts a new life with Addison

I do think Addison is definitely gonna have a part to play in the ending with her saying she would do anything for hutch it's way to big of a thing to be put in to fluff the script up

But out of the 3 options I would prefer 1 or 2 purely because yes hutch has lost Vivian but at least let him go out with a fight rather than an whimper

I think if it ends that hutch just accepts and is like well excuse me you two I've got work to do and continues to work for Christian... Fuck that , cause that would be such a lackluster ending given how emotionally charged the rest of the story has been

But I also don't want it to be that Vivian leaves hutch and she becomes the biggest slut to ever slut and then down the line Christian gets bored of her and throws her to the side and he's done with her and she's like what will I do and she goes back to hutch to see if he will take her back and he does no questions asked and it's just happy families .. fuck that haha that would annoy me more than any ending

I guess the main thing for me is regardless of ending good or bad I just want hutch to go out fighting and giving it his all rather than just rolling over and accepting it as again fuck that it would be so lackluster given the emotion in the story so far
 
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I go to sleep, and wake up to 5 pages of new posts... good job guys :)




I've become aware that Hutch is also always sad or angry. How about a few happy snaps of him too :)



There is no indication that i can determine that Hutch is enjoying any of this. Him pulling away from her when she is trying to kiss him or hold his hand is a good indication. Hopefully this will stay true, and it wont devolve into one of those typical shitty NTR games "Oh my wife is fucking someone else... why is my pee pee getting hard? oh i just came..." Barf!!

In Terms of scenarios for the ending, I'll re-link my suggested ones.
memory lane theories
and a slight continuation for the dark ending

Missed your initial post for what you think would be a dark ending and GODDAMN,
that's not dark, that's pitch black. The pitch black in which Vin Diesel even can't see shit.

But... have to give it to you that the way it looks like this VN is going it can be like you posted here.
 

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Well, I think in this KN we will see how Hutch will slowly transform into a monster. The lies, the betrayal and the deception that Vivien commits. I watched Hutch's facial expressions during each argument, for example, when Christian called him to the office the day after dinner, his hands were already clenched into fists. Moreover, when they were in the bathroom, he heard and saw everything, he is still calm here because it hurts, he still needs to process it a little. The other major outburst of anger was at home when he yelled at Vivien and his hands were still clenched. And Christian always tells Vivien that he is the alpha because no one has done anything against him yet. I think Christian has found a very bad partner now. So we will get a lot of dark things in Ntr thanks to which Hutch will completely change, he will kill or beat Christian very badly. I see the meaning of this, not all the conspiracies. What kind of person does a normal family, consisting of a father and a husband who has never done anything wrong to his wife, make, what kind of wild animal does he make, or what kind of wreck?
 

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wow
here come a darkness

I hope we won't go into a dark-dark porn-thriller ;)
although that would fit the first impression :) in which at the end Hutch and Vivian finish off Chris (by Funeral screen)


SC Stories talk to us :) you vote on Trump or Kamala ? :) give us... something
 
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wow
here come a darkness

I hope we won't go into a dark-dark porn-thriller ;)
although that would fit the first impression :) in which at the end Hutch and Vivian finish off Chris (by Funeral screen)
You mean the funeral screen that was confirmed to be from a different game?
 
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You mean the funeral screen that was confirmed to be from a different game?
yea
although you know how it is... maybe from another game or maybe not (Sc is also playing with us)
we will see. According to some dark scenarios it could easily be the final screen of this game. Especially since SC wrote that first it had a beginning and the end ;)
 

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You know, I wouldn't create too complicated structures with questions of "why". The vast majority of marriages today fail.
In the Eurozone it's about 70% (I've seen statistics where in Portugal the breakdown is at a level of over 90%)

and after 20 years - new is always better, more effective, more exciting and so on
a child leaving the nest is a good time to end the relationship
You're (most here) really going overboard with creating different "why" motivations. Vivian doesn't have to be an innate whore to change now under Chris' influence. She simply discovers something new, incredibly exciting, which unfortunately hurts Hutch - which she definitely doesn't want to do but she can't stop herself (like addiction)

let's just go with the story, analyze the facts, but don't overdo it with alternative scenarios

SC Stories - if you can, at least say - end of April, or rather aim for May ;)

ps. but im almost certain that Chris will share Vivian with his friends - so it wouldn't be too sweet
 
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i don't think it will be so luc (even is there more dark scenarios posted here) but who knows other than the dev how it will end.

in my view vivian will have many paramours during the course of the novel and at the end she will go back to hutch having explored all others. hutch being hutch will take her back as he made a promise to vivian at the end of the update. and in doing so become the cucky that duke keeps daydreaming about ;).

another view as posted by chaotic justice is a combination 1 and 3 from his endings where hutch gets all in the end and vivian and christian end up losing everything and most of the readers here seem to agree with. which goes against the devs ending being liked by half and not so liked by the other half.

regarding the content from the previous games and such... i think the dev used his previous game as template to build this kn and there are bound to be leftovers since its a 1 man job. so for now i'll give the dev the benefit of the doubt since this is his first released game.
 
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