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I didn't take it personally. ;) I'm fed up with them for the same reason. I came here because I read the description, tags, and developer's notes in several places but what I'm seeing here isn't what I expected. It's my fault, really; I should've known that any game where you encourage your wife to act out will end up as a story where she turns into a whore and betrays you. And most players will love that. But hey, I hope you enjoy it.
Yeah get it I'm the same
i lost a bit of interest in this for the same reasons have not played latest update
 

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there is part where I Rafa and Doug were spying on Bruce and Stacey, Rafa cums from anal fingering and Doug pulls out his cock for Rafa to do something but Rafa told him to put it away and she said it was too embarrassing( proabably the size of Doug's cock compared to Bruce's) after seeing Bruce's action in italian but she tells him they will do it at home
 
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there is part where I Rafa and Doug were spying on Bruce and Stacey, Rafa cums from anal fingering and Doug pulls out his cock for Rafa to do something but Rafa told him to put it away and she said it was too embarrassing( proabably the size of Doug's cock compared to Bruce's) after seeing Bruce's action in italian but she tells him they will do it at home
In this scene, Raffa is particularly heated because Bruce gave her his magic pills, which he admits to Jim.
Erick is actually furious that Doug gets to enjoy the effects of the pills while he doesn't get anything out of them, except her panties.
I think Raffa got the pills from Erick through drinks.
I don't think she would just take them on her own.
She doesn't seem to approve of drugs, since Doug already has to hide them when he smokes weed.
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In this scene, Raffa is particularly heated because Bruce gave her his magic pills, which he admits to Jim.
Erick is actually furious that Doug gets to enjoy the effects of the pills while he doesn't get anything out of them, except her panties.
I think Raffa got the pills from Erick through drinks.
I don't think she would just take them on her own.
She doesn't seem to approve of drugs, since Doug already has to hide them when he smokes weed.
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Yea yea obviously, still Rafa said that in Italian... so I kinda find it funny.
 

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Yea yea obviously, still Rafa said that in Italian... so I kinda find it funny.
Well, it's not really funny.
Raffa is more likely using the fact that Doug doesn't speak Italian to make fun of him, she's probably just too cowardly to tell him directly in English.
Raffa seems to speak Italian when she's angry or when she's fantasizing about Bruce, and Doug barely understands more than the names she mentions when she speaks Italian.

But in the scene, it seems that Stacy possibly sees Doug and Raffa while Bruce is splitting her ass in two.
Stacy is looking towards Doug and Raffa almost the whole time.
It's possible that Stacy is also an exhibitionist.
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Kinda funny that a video non canon was made for bruce considering what is already happening canon... A gallery would be really needed at this point too...
 
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The developer is working on a gallery, which was originally supposed to be included in the current 0.6 update.
But apparently, the developer needs more time, which isn't surprising since the game has been developed without a gallery so far.
 
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Well, it's not really funny.
Raffa is more likely using the fact that Doug doesn't speak Italian to make fun of him, she's probably just too cowardly to tell him directly in English.
Raffa seems to speak Italian when she's angry or when she's fantasizing about Bruce, and Doug barely understands more than the names she mentions when she speaks Italian.

But in the scene, it seems that Stacy possibly sees Doug and Raffa while Bruce is splitting her ass in two.
Stacy is looking towards Doug and Raffa almost the whole time.
It's possible that Stacy is also an exhibitionist.
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The most horny part of this scene (maybe in all scenes of this game) is this scene which Raffaella talks Italian and she secretly say "please Bruce put it in my ass too" or similar words.. She says that italian because she doesn't want us to know how she's thirsty for Bruce's cock.. When I translates her words and find her secret cheating words, that makes me so horny.. I need more of them.. I hope Dear Developer creates more the scene like this.. <3
 
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The most horny part of this scene (maybe in all scenes of this game) is this scene which Raffaella talks Italian and she secretly say "please Bruce put it in my ass too" or similar words.. She says that italian because she doesn't want us to know how she's thirsty for Bruce's cock.. When I translates her words and find her secret cheating words, that makes me so horny.. I need more of them.. I hope Dear Developer creates more the scene like this.. <3
I got a slightly different result using Google Lens.
First, she says in Italian, "My God, he's fucking her so good! Yes, yes, keep it up!"
Then she says, "Yes, yes, keep it up!"
Next, Raffa says, "You don't have to understand, I'm not talking to you... This is so exciting!"
And then she fantasizes about Bruce anally fucking Raffa instead of Stacy.
Raffa says, "Oh-oh... Yes, yes, give it to me! Give it to me!"

What also makes the scene hot is that Stacy obviously knows Doug and Raffa are watching.
At that point, she could have told Bruce they had an audience, and maybe they would have moved their encounter elsewhere.
But it seems Stacy especially enjoyed the attention from Doug, that was probably an extra thrill for her.
 

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Well, it's not really funny.
Raffa is more likely using the fact that Doug doesn't speak Italian to make fun of him, she's probably just too cowardly to tell him directly in English.
Raffa seems to speak Italian when she's angry or when she's fantasizing about Bruce, and Doug barely understands more than the names she mentions when she speaks Italian.

But in the scene, it seems that Stacy possibly sees Doug and Raffa while Bruce is splitting her ass in two.
Stacy is looking towards Doug and Raffa almost the whole time.
It's possible that Stacy is also an exhibitionist.
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Or, it could be just that she's bilingual.

I have bilingual friends who change back-and-forth between English and their mother tongue when they are emotional (excited, etc.) and they don't seem to give it conscious thought. Perhaps you're right but I just assumed that when she gets excited she just reverts back to her Italian... ...on the pure blue path she does this, too, but I didn't notice her dialogue being as hostile toward Doug as you're showing here. Perhaps another thing that is path-dependent?
 
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Or, it could be just that she's bilingual.

I have bilingual friends who change back-and-forth between English and their mother tongue when they are emotional (excited, etc.) and they don't seem to give it conscious thought. Perhaps you're right but I just assumed that when she gets excited she just reverts back to her Italian... ...on the pure blue path she does this, too, but I didn't notice her dialogue being as hostile toward Doug as you're showing here. Perhaps another thing that is path-dependent?
being European i CAN HONESTLY say that most of us use both languages just because we can and are used to doing it most of our lives. theres no malice indented
 
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Or, it could be just that she's bilingual.

I have bilingual friends who change back-and-forth between English and their mother tongue when they are emotional (excited, etc.) and they don't seem to give it conscious thought. Perhaps you're right but I just assumed that when she gets excited she just reverts back to her Italian... ...on the pure blue path she does this, too, but I didn't notice her dialogue being as hostile toward Doug as you're showing here. Perhaps another thing that is path-dependent?
The scene at the club I wrote about is the first time you're there, before you can choose between the Red and Blue routes. After the scene with Bruce and Stacy, Doug drives Raffa home—well, Doug drives while Raffa fingers her asshole.
Afterward, they have sex in her room and on the balcony, during which Raffa tells them what she did in the Club. After that you choose the route, if I remember correctly.
The fact that Raffa is already so hostile to Doug in the scene with Bruce and Stacy suggests that she doesn't actually love him.

As we learn later when Trevor appears, Raffa is from Italy.
But Doug doesn't even know which region of Italy she's from, which indicates that he doesn't know much about Raffa.
Presumably, the two got together quickly and married just as quickly.
I suspect that Raffa had to leave Italy for some reason.
She may have already been a Slut in Italy, and perhaps she had an affair with a man she shouldn't have.
This could have something to do with the Mafia, who may have then banned Raffa from Italy.
Raffa probably entered the country on a tourist visa, and to be able to stay, she needed a husband.
Raffa met Doug after her arrival, he had probably been single for a while.
Doug seemed good enough for Raffa at first, he had a job, appeared to be a nice guy, etc.
Doug was, or probably still is, so in love that he doesn't really notice any of this.
Raffa complains that Doug is manipulating her into being a slut, she accuses him of being responsible, when we choose the red path.
I suspect that Raffa couldn't stand the life of a good woman anymore and is presumably manipulating Doug to indulge her lust and desires, regardless of whether Doug wants it or not.

I suspect that Bruce is a descendant of Italian immigrants, his uncle is probably Italian, and Uncle Trevor likely has connections in Italy.
It's possible that Bruce/Trevor's relatives know what Raffa did in Italy back then, and Trevor probably knows why she emigrated and married Doug.
Who knows if and what Trevor will do with this information in the future?
He could blackmail Raffa with her past.
If she doesn't do what he says, Trevor could tell Doug everything about Raffa's past, which might give Doug a reason to divorce her.
Raffa would probably be deported to Italy, and who knows what fate awaited her there.
Trevor and Raffa also spoke briefly by the pool, but unfortunately, we don't know what they talked about. Shortly afterward, Trevor left.
What I've written here is speculation, but it fits the story quite well...
 
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The scene at the club I wrote about is the first time you're there, before you can choose between the Red and Blue routes. After the scene with Bruce and Stacy, Doug drives Raffa home—well, Doug drives while Raffa fingers her asshole.
Afterward, they have sex in her room and on the balcony, during which Raffa tells them what she did in the Club. After that you choose the route, if I remember correctly.
The fact that Raffa is already so hostile to Doug in the scene with Bruce and Stacy suggests that she doesn't actually love him.

As we learn later when Trevor appears, Raffa is from Italy.
But Doug doesn't even know which region of Italy she's from, which indicates that he doesn't know much about Raffa.
Presumably, the two got together quickly and married just as quickly.
I suspect that Raffa had to leave Italy for some reason.
She may have already been a Slut in Italy, and perhaps she had an affair with a man she shouldn't have.
This could have something to do with the Mafia, who may have then banned Raffa from Italy.
Raffa probably entered the country on a tourist visa, and to be able to stay, she needed a husband.
Raffa met Doug after her arrival, he had probably been single for a while.
Doug seemed good enough for Raffa at first, he had a job, appeared to be a nice guy, etc.
Doug was, or probably still is, so in love that he doesn't really notice any of this.
Raffa complains that Doug is manipulating her into being a slut, she accuses him of being responsible, when we choose the red path.
I suspect that Raffa couldn't stand the life of a good woman anymore and is presumably manipulating Doug to indulge her lust and desires, regardless of whether Doug wants it or not.

I suspect that Bruce is a descendant of Italian immigrants, his uncle is probably Italian, and Uncle Trevor likely has connections in Italy.
It's possible that Bruce/Trevor's relatives know what Raffa did in Italy back then, and Trevor probably knows why she emigrated and married Doug.
Who knows if and what Trevor will do with this information in the future?
He could blackmail Raffa with her past.
If she doesn't do what he says, Trevor could tell Doug everything about Raffa's past, which might give Doug grounds to divorce her.
Raffa would probably be deported to Italy, and who knows what fate awaited her there.
Trevor and Raffa also spoke briefly by the pool, but unfortunately, we don't know what they talked about. Shortly afterward, Trevor left.
What I've written here is speculation, but it fits the story quite well...
But no blackmail is necessary; she already is a total whore. She doesn't need a reason. Just approach her with an erection and it'll happen.

I believe the pool scene you mentioned happened just before she approached Doug with a mouthful of someone's semen.

And, with the way the writing goes, Doug won't care what anyone says about his wife; he'll just clap like a circus seal and talk about how wonderful it all is. He's a total spineless, shameless, sometimes oblivious (sometimes just pretending) cuck. She can say or do anything and he'll go along with it.
 
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But no blackmail is necessary; she already is a total whore. She doesn't need a reason. Just approach her with an erection and it'll happen.

I believe the pool scene you mentioned happened just before she approached Doug with a mouthful of someone's semen.

And, with the way the writing goes, Doug won't care what anyone says about his wife; he'll just clap like a circus seal and talk about how wonderful it all is. He's a total spineless, shameless, sometimes oblivious (sometimes just pretending) cuck. She can say or do anything and he'll go along with it.
I don't think it's that simple.
Sure, on the Blue Route, Doug is a spineless loser, a cuck.
On the Red Route, he at least has some backbone, depending on the decisions we players make.
But it's clear that Doug's judgment is clouded by his love for Raffa, no matter which route he's on.
Even when he realizes what his wife is really doing, he simply lies to himself or ignores the facts.
Doug is so in love that he doesn't even realize Raffa obviously doesn't love him, but is merely using and humiliating him.
On the Red Route, Doug slowly begins to understand what his wife is really like, and I think it's his secret revenge on Raffa that he might start something with Stacy again.
So far, Doug hasn't had the guts to confront Raffa, let alone Bruce and Erick.

I'm curious to see how the story develops.
You can imagine it to some extent, but the details are interesting to me.
 

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I don't think it's that simple.
Sure, on the Blue Route, Doug is a spineless loser, a cuck.
On the Red Route, he at least has some backbone, depending on the decisions we players make.
But it's clear that Doug's judgment is clouded by his love for Raffa, no matter which route he's on.
Even when he realizes what his wife is really doing, he simply lies to himself or ignores the facts.
Doug is so in love that he doesn't even realize Raffa obviously doesn't love him, but is merely using and humiliating him.
On the Red Route, Doug slowly begins to understand what his wife is really like, and I think it's his secret revenge on Raffa that he might start something with Stacy again.
So far, Doug hasn't had the guts to confront Raffa, let alone Bruce and Erick.

I'm curious to see how the story develops.
You can imagine it to some extent, but the details are interesting to me.
As I recall, the notes on the red pill choice suggested the MC knew full well that his wife would cheat and that he wanted that; he wanted to deceive her (and his bulls friends, too) into thinking he either was oblivious or jealous. Because he was pretending to be oblivious, he could not try to manage her choices on the red path.

On the blue path he can and does admit to her that he knows; she shares her after-action reports with him and he tries, sometimes, to guide or limit what she does. She pretends, at least, to love him on the blue path.

On both paths he wants to know that she is cheating; the only difference is whether he allows her to know that he knows...
 
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As I recall, the notes on the red pill choice suggested the MC knew full well that his wife would cheat and that he wanted that; he wanted to deceive her (and his bulls friends, too) into thinking he either was oblivious or jealous. Because he was pretending to be oblivious, he could not try to manage her choices on the red path.

On the blue path he can and does admit to her that he knows; she shares her after-action reports with him and he tries, sometimes, to guide or limit what she does. She pretends, at least, to love him on the blue path.

On both paths he wants to know that she is cheating; the only difference is whether he allows her to know that he knows...
What you're saying is true.
Ultimately, they're both playing a game against each other, one they could both lose in the end.
The real winners in the end are Bruce and, to some extent, Erick.
And if I understand the story correctly, at a certain point, Jim at least partially knows what's going on between Doug and Raffa, and what Raffa is doing with Bruce and Erick.
And even on the Red Trail, when Raffa tries to hide what she's doing with Jim, Jim still tells Doug and sends him messages and pictures.
I think Raffa isn't just a slut.
She's a nymphomaniacal, or in other words, she's a sex addict.
I think Erick's so-called magic pills and the heavy drinking intensify Raffa's sex addiction even more.
 

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What you're saying is true.
Ultimately, they're both playing a game against each other, one they could both lose in the end.
The real winners in the end are Bruce and, to some extent, Erick.
And if I understand the story correctly, at a certain point, Jim at least partially knows what's going on between Doug and Raffa, and what Raffa is doing with Bruce and Erick.
And even on the Red Trail, when Raffa tries to hide what she's doing with Jim, Jim still tells Doug and sends him messages and pictures.
I think Raffa isn't just a slut.
She's a nymphomaniacal, or in other words, she's a sex addict.
I think Erick's so-called magic pills and the heavy drinking intensify Raffa's sex addiction even more.
Perhaps, but still unnecessary. You don't have to rape the willing. If she knew she were caught, she could use the pills as an excuse but she needs no encouragement or stimulation to have sex with anyone. She is a pure, total whore who lucked out by marrying a man who lets her be herself. It even was his idea.
 

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Perhaps, but still unnecessary. You don't have to rape the willing. If she knew she were caught, she could use the pills as an excuse but she needs no encouragement or stimulation to have sex with anyone. She is a pure, total whore who lucked out by marrying a man who lets her be herself. It even was his idea.
I never talked about rape.
Raffa isn't given rape drugs, but sexually stimulating pills, that's a difference.
Bruce and Erick are extremely pushy.
Rafa acts like she wants to be in control, but ultimately she likes being dominated and handled roughly.
I think Erick suspects that Raffa is a sex-addicted slut, and with his magic pills, he presumably wants to make Raffa so horny that she'll agree to have sex with him.
Doug thwarts this plan without knowing it.
He overhears Jim and Erick's conversation about the magic pills, but according to the narrator, Doug isn't consciously aware of it.

And Raffa convinces him that it was Doug's idea.
Raffa uses this as justification. Doug's original idea was simply that she should dress and act sexy so he could show her off to his friends.
Doug didn't initially say that she should let them grope her, or that she should give his friends blowjobs, or that she should offer her ass to them so they could fuck her.
After Doug, Raffa, Bruce, Erick, and Jim first meet, Raffa manipulates Doug relentlessly, turning him into either a cuckold or a betrayed husband torn between lust and betrayal.

Simply put, Raffa manipulates Doug, and Bruce and Erick each manipulate Raffa in their own way to push her to her perceived limits. Erick uses his magic pills, among other things, while Bruce tries to manipulate her more on a psychological level
 
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