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My thoughts on why we have so many 1 star game reviews here

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malaac2025

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OK I figured I would bring this up because if your doing a real review and being objective than there should be almost no 1 star reviews at all. Being a 1 star review is basically saying there is ABSOLUTELY nothing good in the game at all. No game play, no story, no sound, no art, and horrible UI which for any game should be rare. I have been non-biased a few times myself so when I notice this I put my thoughts/review into the thread discussion and try not to post int he review section for this very reason.

A good game review should cover some basic topics generally in any format you want but should cover these topics at the very least. Remember when you give a 1 star review which is 90% of the time is really a lie you are possibly destroying a new and upcoming developer that could as they learn create one of the best games ever. So think twice before writing a 1 star review even bad games should be most of the time a 2 star game.

Good non-biased game review may look something like this. The thing is make sure to cover the basic topics at the very least.

1. Game Play: 3/5 (what is good and bad about it)
2. Story/Plot: N/A (Game is more of a puzzle game so story not applicable)
3. Sound: 2/5 (Only has background music intermittently with some sound effects like doorbell)
4: Art: 3/5 (scenes have animation? How is the art? What did you like or not like about the art?)
5. UI: 3/5 (how is the UI for the game interface? What could be improved?)

So in this scenario we have 4 topics to judge since it is a puzzle game with no story we will not use that topic. So that means we will calculate total points divided by number of topics. 11/4 would put our score around 2.75 so we could decide to round up or down to be either 3 or 2.5. When I see a 1 star review I already know that the review is not a real review as to have a 1 star review the game would have to be a 1 star for every topic.

Now these are not all the topics that could be covered but the minimum but you could include others that you have a peeve about or is really good for example you could have included.

6. Puzzle: 4/5 (the puzzle game is quite unique and very fun to play. The puzzle plays out as a ....)
7. Developer Personality: 1/5 (Developer has issues with any advice and this will ultimately hurt his game as he won't listen to others opinions on difficulty at all)

Now you can do a weight base merit with actual facts and determine the real star review of the game itself. You could even put Developer Personality: 5/5 (he takes advice, listens to opinions and this should help to improve the game immensely. He has great Discord support)

Now if you just want to rant and not provide an objective review and say you think it's one star because of this than just put that into the thread discussion itself a non-objective review should not be put in reviews. Others may like that but they may never know because you just killed the developers only chance by being unfair and biased in the review section that counts making a game that may have excelled into a failure at the very beginning of the game.
 
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bobdickgus

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1/5 is between 0-20% and there are certainly some crap games that are indeed worth less than 20% in the early stages anyway.
But basically lots of people will go I like it 5/5 or i don't like it 1/5 and they are certainly not going to care how you feel about it.
Just read through the reviews rather than just looking at the score.
 

Belphegor007

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If a game has 5/5 art but is buggy and horrible to play the art doesn't raise it past a 1/5.
There is a reason we don't only allow numbers and require the reviewer to actually write out a review.
We also should have way less 5/5 as most of them boil down to this game has a the fetish I like.
So many games with near perfect scores are fucking awful to play or very cookie cutter and mundane.
 

Goeffel

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well, to me OP reads as if he is confusing himself with some review pope. What makes you think that you get to decide how OTHER people have to review and/or calculate their score to your "formula".

Also OP is overlooking something:
When I see a 1 star review I already know that the review is not a real review as to have a 1 star review the game would have to be a 1 star for every topic.
Other than the flawed logic/ arithmetic, this is actually a good thing.
You can at first look sort out those reviews you do not want to read.


Sometimes I even wonder if some reviewers who feel like 1* still rate it 2* just because more likely to be read / considered.

It is not quite the same with them 5* reviews, you often have to start reading into them to decide to dismiss, so those are more bothersome.
 
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Catapo

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As much as I would like games to have in depth objective reviews this would never happen. Reviewes were, are and will always be subjective at the end of the day even if you split the scores on different topics like you suggested. A 5/5 artstyle for some can be a 1/5 for others, etc.

If you were to compare dozens, hundreds or thousands of games on this website you have to draw a line somewhere.
For example if I asked you to rank 1000 games however you want and place them in a list from 1 to 1000 then would it not be fair to say that the top 200 games are statistically worth for you 5/5 and the bottom 200 are only worth 1/5 ?
Apply the same logic on all the games here and you would end up with the bottom 20% of games in the same spot being a 1/5 for some players.

You also claim that a game can never be a 1/5 because it would have to be 1/5 in all the topics you suggested but that is not something impossible at all.
A game can be buggy, have a terrible artstyle, bad writing, no story and a dev with crappy personality.

On a last, slight heartless note I want to also mention that a person that pursues any creative endeavor needs to be thick skinned, if someone gets disheartened by some reviews and drop the game they are making, they can also become disheartened if the same reviews are left as a comment and ultimately just means that person is not fully cut for this job.

People will always publicly shit on creative works as long as they have a platform to do so.
 

Hagatagar

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Most people are simply incapable of writing unbiased reviews.

Many 1 star reviews are because there's one single tag the person dislikes, or even they don't like the dev.
On the other had, many 5 star reviews are because of one single thing the person likes, like some hot girl.

It could be a game with the perfect visuals, the perfect story, perfect girls, but as soon as there is [Incest], optinal [Gay] or the obvious culpid [NTR], it will get 1 star from many people, just because of that single factor alone.
 

Pretentious Goblin

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Yeah, it seems most reviewers just aren't capable of the thought process: "Okay, the game has [highly subjective aspect] which is a dealbreaker for me, but still I can see other merits in the game regardless, and other people may enjoy it." Probably because reviewers are not being paid, so they're not inclined to post reviews for games that just didn't work out for them. Instead, they post if they feel strongly enough about a game that they feel the need to rant about it.
 

MarshmallowCasserole

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OK I figured I would bring this up because if your doing a real review and being objective than there should be almost no 1 star reviews at all. Being a 1 star review is basically saying there is ABSOLUTELY nothing good in the game at all.
No. A product is not just a collection of parts. The final rating isn't an average of sub-scores.

A game can have gorgeous art, but if it takes you 10 hours of mindcrushingly boring grind to unlock a CG, it's a Terrible game, and a rating of Terrible equals to exactly 1 star.

It's really, really simple:
1 star: Terrible, not worth your time at all.​
2 stars: Poor, you can play it if you're that bored, but don't be surprised if the experience is really underwhelming​
3 stars: Average, self explanatory.​
4 stars: Good, overall pleasant experience.​
5 stars: Excellent, you should definitely play it​
Also, this has to be a troll. Quickly looked up your reviews. Gooooood joooob.
 
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AlternateDreams

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No. A product is not just a collection of parts. The final rating isn't an average of sub-scores.

A game can have gorgeous art, but if it takes you 10 hours of mindcrushingly boring grind to unlock a CG, it's a Terrible game, and a rating of Terrible equals to exactly 1 star.

It's really, really simple:
1 star: Terrible, not worth your time at all.​
2 stars: Poor, you can play it if you're that bored, but don't be surprised if the experience is really underwhelming​
3 stars: Average, self explanatory.​
4 stars: Good, overall pleasant experience.​
5 stars: Excellent, you should definitely play it​
Also, this has to be a troll. Quickly looked up your reviews. Gooooood joooob.
Goot catch. 100% of his reviews are either 1 or 2 stars :KEK:
 

♍VoidTraveler

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My opinion regarding all these review shenanigans remains unchanged:

All of those simpleton schmucks shouldn't be permitted into the review section in the first place.

Another job on F95 needs to be created - Reviewer. With their own badge and shit.
They should get vetted via letting them become Jr.Reviewer and letting them write a couple reviews, then those reviews should be analyzed by staff and then they either get accepted and become real reviewers or they get yeeted if the quality of their work is ass.

Until this is done most reviews on F95 will remain complete garbage. :whistle::coffee:
 
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MarshmallowCasserole

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Another job on F95 needs to be created - Reviewer. With their own badge and shit.
They should get vetted via letting them become Jr.Reviewer and letting them write a couple reviews, then those reviews should be analyzed by staff and then they either get accepted and become real reviewers or they get yeeted if the quality of their work is ass.
No, please, no. Even I shudder at the thought of creating a curated club of critics; this will degenerate into a circlejerking clique real fast.

Believe me, people who actually read reviews are perfectly able to discern insightful reviews from 200 character slop.
 

♍VoidTraveler

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Even I shudder at the thought of creating a curated club of critics
It's not about creating a club of critics, it's about having an ability to write an unbiased fucking review.
If you can prove that you can do that, be welcome. Simple as that. :rolleyes::coffee:
Believe me, people who actually read reviews are perfectly able to discern insightful reviews from 200 character slop.
Believe me i do, but i don't feel like wasting my time digging those up from among sometimes up to thousand of garbage reviews. :ROFLMAO::coffee:
And we also don't want garbage reviews affecting scores, that rating system isn't there just for show.
At least, it shouldn't be there just for show. :whistle::coffee:
 

MarshmallowCasserole

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It's not about creating a club of critics, it's about having an ability to write an unbiased fucking review.
If you can prove that you can do that, be welcome. Simple as that. :rolleyes::coffee:
That's what a closed club is, by definition.

Believe me i do, but i don't feel like wasting my time digging those up from among sometimes up to thousand of garbage reviews. :ROFLMAO::coffee:
And we also don't want garbage reviews affecting scores, that rating system isn't there just for show.
At least, it shouldn't be there just for show. :whistle::coffee:
It isn't for show. The beauty of the system is that it works despite noise (aka garbage reviews). If you think approved critics will be unbiased all the time... yeah, no.

BTW, posting my rates in advance, $20 per 1 star deviation from my initial review. :coffee:
 

Goeffel

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Quickly looked up your reviews.
How did you do that "quickly" ? I never found a link like "reviews" on profiles and am missing that much.
All of those simpleton schmucks shouldn't be permitted into the review section in the first place.

Another job on F95 needs to be created - Reviewer. With their own badge and shit.
... aaaand lemme guess it never crossed your mind that somehow maybe you would not be part of the club? nah, of course not....
 

♍VoidTraveler

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... aaaand lemme guess it never crossed your mind that somehow maybe you would not be part of the club? nah, of course not....
... aaaand lemme guess it never crossed your mind that perhaps i do not care whether or not i am a part of that club? :sneaky::coffee:
So long as they do their job right i don't really give a shit who is a part of whose club.
Not to mention that if i really want to i can earn my entrance ticket anywhere.
I already wrote a number of pretty good reviews around here, so i don't see why anyone would think i wouldn't get in. :LUL::coffee:
 
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whowhawhy

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How did you do that "quickly" ? I never found a link like "reviews" on profiles and am missing that much.
two ways i know of:
- latest activity feed in their profile; spam "show older items" a bunch, then search for "rated to the thread"
- don't follow anybody, follow the user you want to check, find on the page and click one of these: "new posts"/"latest posts"/"latest profile posts"/"news feed"/"latest activity", switch tab to new thread ratings, filter by members you follow.
 
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