Dealbreaker

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Giving someone ecstasy without their consent and then having sex with them is not just "not okay" it's rape
"Ok" was your language, not mine, I just rejected it.
Also just repeating things is again not an argument. The point is that not any drug meets the definition. There are obviously discussons among experts:
But I get the impression you are just interested in black-and-white accusations and not in the matter itself. The courtroom is not a moral tribunal.

Ecstasy (MDMA), methamphetamine, and date rape (drug-facilitated sexual assault): a consideration of the issues
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Jansen KL, Theron L.
Auckland Hospital,
New Zealand.
[email protected]
J Psychoactive Drugs. 2006 Mar;38(1):1-12.

ABSTRACT

The term "date rape drug" has traditionally been applied by the media to powerful sedatives, such as gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB) and flunitrazepam (Rohypnol), which can render a person unconscious and hence unable to resist and/or recall an assault. However, some law enforcement agents and others have recently obtained convictions by arguing that the empathy-generating and sensual effects of MDMA, and an occasional increase in disinhibition and sexual desire linked with methamphetamine use, remove a person's ability to give a reasoned consent, turning the person into "a helpless slave" to their own sexual desires and those of the alleged perpetrator. The argument holds that the victim becomes part of the assault because they may appear to be cooperating and colluding with activity which they would not have consented to without taking these drugs. This interpretation of the term "date rape" has been fed by data that sometimes finds MDMA and amphetamines in samples taken from sexual assault victims, and hence these prosecutions sometimes rely on expert testimony from toxicologists, pathologists and police officers rather than psychologists and psychiatrists who are expert in the human effects of these drugs. Some of those in the latter group have dismissed claims that MDMA is an aphrodisiac or a date rape drug as myths propagated by the media. In this article, these arguments and their respective strengths and weaknesses will be examined to assist professionals and others who may become involved in these cases.
 

Grumpybum

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"Ok" was your language, not mine, I just rejected it.
Also just repeating things is again not an argument. The point is that not any drug meets the definition. There are obviously discussons among experts:
But I get the impression you are just interested in black-and-white accusations and not in the matter itself.

Ecstasy (MDMA), methamphetamine, and date rape (drug-facilitated sexual assault): a consideration of the issues
by
Jansen KL, Theron L.
Auckland Hospital,
New Zealand.
[email protected]
J Psychoactive Drugs. 2006 Mar;38(1):1-12.

ABSTRACT
I agree repeating things is not an argument, which both of us are now doing.

Again more mention of MDMA being used in rape cases with "some" experts dismissing it, proving that the majority consider using ecstasy to lower inhibitions for the purpose of sexual activity a sex crime

I wasn't looking for an argument, somebody asked a question, I answered it, you called bs (God knows why) another member called you a rapist and here you are arguing with me.

So we can agree to disagree, I think spiking somebody with ecstasy and having sex with them is rape, you don't think it is....fair enough.

As for your concern about me naming another game in a different thread....we have now fallen deep into the off topic rabbit hole in this thread.
 
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CursedByAll

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Once again, in a reflection of real world drama, and total lack of grounding in what it is to be a woman, GUYS are attempting to define what is rape.
Sorry, but try as you might to empathise with one side or another, as a man, you will not properly understand the rape of a woman, especially when it also involves manipulation of willpower. Consent is not black and white either, it's not the defining criteria you think it is.
No offense meant to anyone here, but that particular scene is sketchy at best, an obvious tension point by the dev, meant to bring out emotive reactions. And you have responded. Best to just leave it there really.
 
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How do you get to the part where she sleeps with the boss??
See my reply to Roshan7738 on the previous page. How she ends up, "sleeping" with the boss is a little complicated. You may want to check the spoiler below before watching the scene, to decide if you want to see it.

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CursedByAll

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You guys know this a game right? It’s not real.
What??!!! Say what??!!!

Fuck, you mean I don't have a gorgeous slutty wife who just goes out and fucks random black dudes and funky old men, treats me like absolute shit and even sluts it up in front of me, and I can't help but jizz all over the new furniture she made me buy?

Fuck, fuck, I better ring my psychiatrist right now.....thanks man, I owe you one.....psst...hey....wanna fuck my hot wife??
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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