RPGM - Completed - Nebel Geisterjäger [v1.2] [BBQ Lover]

This game has a lot of great ideas, great art with a good variety of scenes, great corruption aspects, nice main story, and good combat that is let down by how grindy the game is. The combat can be challenging at first and has a learning curve which is nice but there is so much grind that it loses its flair. My other big gripe with this game is while a lot of the scenes are great, some can only be experienced as a "dream" at night after they've happened even though you can stumble into them while they're happening. It really disconnects you from the scene and the voyeurism. Overall, this is a game that I wish I had known some things about to have a better experience with since the mechanics can heavily impact your experience but the game doesn't do a great job of explaining their importance (or at all in some cases)

What I wish I knew before I spent way too much time on this game:

• Ignoring Kana too much to see NTR scenes can lead to a premature game over
• After missions, Kana moves at the start of every hour. You can call her to figure out what that hour of gameplay will be (Choosing to cockblock your rival or not, spending time with her, or sometimes nothing)
• If you choose to cockblock your rival, you must do it within the first 30 minutes of that hour or they will move to a new area for NTR
• To unlock the hospital maps, Kana must be strong enough to go through the hospital floors and make it to the end. Starting upstairs or in the basement to unlock each map which will tell you the room numbers so you can plan where to place your high rez cameras.
• Your rival's scenes are rng at night so you can save before you have lunch with Kana, and then go through the night to try to get scenes that you're interested in or reload if nothing happens. Otherwise, there may be nights where your rival just does literally nothing

This game had so much potential to be great and clearly is high quality overall but is let down by RNG elements of the scenes leading to alot of repetitiveness, unintuitive mechanics, a fairly tedious gameplay loop, and some generally bad design choices in terms of how you want to tailor your playthrough. I love that there are multiple endings and branching paths giving you a unique experience but it's so time consuming and convoluted that I feel like you should honestly play with a guide so you don't get trapped running in circles. I hope the dev releases more games like this and learns from their mistakes because the quality and general ideas behind the game are great.

the gameplay stinks and is super grindy, ruins the entire ntr experience. the combats add nothing to the game and instead you have to waste a lot of time on grinding combat to advance the plot, which is stupid. you don't even need to grind to become powerful (for the most part) just to advance the day and the time. added battle mechanics are pointless as the game isn't about battles.

Mixed about this game.

+ Gradual corruption, division between FMC / MC, ability to look at the scenes happening/call her.

Now on the downsides, battle system could be better, it quickly becomes boring/tedious.

Clearing out/exorcising minicities is a daily chore and it is necessary to unlock locations/content.

You need about 100 high-res cameras, even though I cheated for it, the system is retarded by design.

After initial progress with corruption, next you will rewatch same scenes over and over again. 999 times.

The crafting/training system is bad.
A lot of scenes cannot be seen directly, but come as a "dream".

It could have been 3-3.5 game if the gameplay was not so bad. This game has plenty of content to spread over 5-10 hours gameplay, but it wants players to work 50-100 hours for it.

i'd give this a 4.5 star out of 5.
the story is interesting, mechanics are good (not great), gfx is good, etc.

the downsides are the game kind of grinds a bit much, its not intuitive what to do at times, and its glitchy sometimes.

i loved this game so much. it has everything that makes a game great. the feeling of discovering what’s happening without your control, the build-up, and the tension make the experience even more intense. the hidden scenes and surprises really add to the excitement. i loved kana, and her character was perfect for an ntr story like this!

the progression felt natural, and the way it all plays out kept me engaged. the art style is amazing, and the overall atmosphere is perfect for what the game was going for. it’s easily one of my favorite games of all time. the mix of suspense, character progression, and those unexpected moments made it unforgettable.

After 6th playthrough from 1.1 to 1.2 ver. and probably over 50+ hours, I think i can now review this game with my honest opinion
Nevertheless it's better to play it by your self. The game is design to be played many times before understanding your first to 3rd playthrough you will definitely end up one of the 2 bad ending. You may find success with guide, but nevertheless the guide you get in the game is one of the piece of shit you ever given, is useless.

Gameplay Loop/Grind (2.4/5)
one of the most boring ass thing ever did. 90% of the time your doing is Grinding and waiting for After that just wait do the same dungeon 12 more times, sometimes other dungeon, and finally when it, finally it the mark, you can progress. It's one of the worse game loop, especially if your playing in normal difficulty, grinding is an ass. If you wanna get the good ending you need to at least 25 or 30. With max Cane and good stats. With the Stupidly Low exp given. over 70% of the time that was added is from grinding exp.

Story (4.2/5)
It's actually quite interesting i won't spoil, but it's better to experience it by your self.

H-Scene/Mechanics (4.7/5)
Good art, But most of the time it is the same, but not the same like...Final maid, or the new one that BBQ lover made. The hidden camera is one of the best feature of the game. And after doing the dungeon, your now on a hide n seek, either to ignore or help. With the addition of H-Stats, and you need to upgrade it, to find more of the stats is good ()I would like to rate it higher but most of H-Scene will become lock, in an event afterward, and it is tie with the awful gameplay loop.

Overall i give it a 3.7/5. but i overall it to it's a good game, but not the best nor the worse. it has so much potential and i hope it got updated or a sequel.

Man way to screw up your game

Two hours in and all i got was some obscure battle system were your regular attack does no damage to bosses, and an obscure time system (not, clock based time systems are always a horrible idea) that leads to now knowing or doing anything interesting. After the tail game having some annoying progression aspects to it i decided to give this one a go and it was apparent before long i would not be rockin' even a half chub for a very long time.
If you got nothing to do and want to scene hunt very slow dripped content go right ahead.

This is definetly a good game. It has a surprisingly interesting story and cool villain with motive and backstory tied to both mc and Kana, and it becomes available by paying attention to hints. The scenes and sounds are really hot. The mystery is good. You can have sex with heroine in late game, and based on the size of dick you selected, its gonna be easier or harder to fight back against Lawrence and lower her submission.

The pacing with corruption is a bit off I think, I found myself trying to get ntr and it was still slow in the beggining, but then it just takes off, youll get a bad end before seeing a whole lot of scenes, and her reactions to you dont change in response. She has the same dialogue whether Lawrence groped her or came inside her. No change in guilt, but atitude change is very visible in actual scenes, so it isnt that bad.

To preface this, I've only achieved the Normal Ending so far.
I'll go back for the other endings later, but I think I've earned the right to judge this game after playing it for 24 hours.

This game is a far cry from the previous game by this author. Semen Squeezing Devil was also an NTR game, but it was paced very differently. In that game, you only had 4 days with which to do essentially everything in the game. However, in this game, you have essentially infinite time to do that. Which sounds like it's nice, relieving some time pressure, but this means that the game drags. I spent hours just constantly running in circles trying to grind up the stats to fight the later enemies because that shit does not scale well.

The combat is innovative. It's fresh. It's new. It also sucks. You generate TP by consuming MP, and if you have TP, you can attack spiritual targets. Also, you have spells, but these are mostly useless unless you can figure out the elemental reaction debuff system which is not very well explained and also you only get two gem slots so you can't use all the elements anyway. The girl's kit is unironically better because she can generate MP, for free, and can do way more damage and control enemy moves more. Too bad that she doesn't level with you because she spends half the game in another dimension, literally.

The NTR was compelling in concept, but in execution it's a drag. Basically, if you aren't careful, the other guy will rape the girl while you're helpless to stop it because you're in another dimension. They call upon the Day 4 scenes from Semen Squeezing Devil, but are functionally different in execution, because while that was sort of a final scene, where he's fucking her for a whole day, these are just small scenes littered throughout the game. The game has way more scenes than Semen Squeezing Devil, but their quality and variety can be considered lesser.

...This game has some promise. I hope that the endings deliver on that promise. I will be back to change this review after learning the true story and getting all the endings.

Edit: Grabbed the Bad Ending and the True Ending since the Bad Ending is just 1200 Submission.

UGGGHH. This game has so much promise, but it just can't deliver. I loved the last game so much and I thought this would be much of the same, but it was still so grindy. Even when I gave myself 9999 MATK, I still had to grind for the recollections to get to the true ending. The NTR content also is the bulk content of the game, but if you don't actively fuck over Kana, you never get there. In the previous game, NTR was so easy to get. It just happened while you played the game and did other things.

I understand making you work for it but you can't get any ending fast.

This game is good, but it can't balance its downsides. Honestly, to some extent, I'm mad that this game exists. Not because it's bad, but because it feels like the bones of something even better are here, they just don't have
any meat on them.

Edit: I think I've finally come up with how this game could best be well, fixed.

This is a tough one to review. Without access to the game guide I'd give it 2*, but 4.5* or 5* with the guide. So, overall I'm giving it a 4* rating.

I tried playing the game as is about 6 months ago and bounced right off, but came back to it recently with the guide and had a great time.

My recommendation to get the most out of the game; get a hold of the guide, use a save editor to give yourself enough money to buy enough cameras for each mission location, then install them one your first visit to each place. Might be counter to the creator's intent, but this way you'll actually have some idea what you're doing and can get right into enjoying the NTR content without spending 3+ hours without seeing a single H-scene.

Positives:
- really nice NTR mechanic during missions with a heartrate monitor giving indications something may be about to happen/is happening and leaving the decision to the player as to whether to intervene or let things proceed. The feel of this system carries into the evenings, where events are decide somewhat at random and again the player can choose to block them or not. I'm personally a big fan of NTR games that give the impression of the events happening outside of the payer's control, while still giving some agency on whether to interfere. This gives the feel of an actual game with decisions, rather than a glorified scene viewer.
- Penis size mechanic (yep, turns out that is a thing) - the option is given to specify the MC's penis size. At first I thought this was just an arbitrary value the game asks for to give a sense of immersion, but it turns out this is actually reflected in certain scenes (3 different variations, dependent on size), and can also impact the level of the love interest's submission (corruption) level later on in game
- Tracking options - the game gives you the options to unlock 2 extra status screens for the MC's love interest, meaning you can choose to be blissfully ignorant of how she is developing, have all the information to track her activities, or somewhere in between. I really appreciated this as it let's you experience the game with whatever level of knowledge you prefer in these games

Negatives:
- the game itself does an awful job of explaining its systems and mechanics
- even with the guide, combat isn't particularly well explained in terms of spell types, tarot cards etc
- which events trigger is largely random, making it frustrating if you are trying to trigger particular events (the "dream room" can help with this, and even strongly suggests the player use the "unlock gallery" feature when chasing down the last few scenes)
- trying to raise the population through night-time exorcisms can be frustrating as the game only gives you alerts for the retaliation events after they've already happened
- until you grind/cheat enough to get cameras installed in every exorcism map, finding NTR scenes is really hit and miss

Best hentai game, right beside Karryn's Prison I recommend it a lot. Tons of variety despite its simplistic approach to gameplay. I wish for more games by BBQ Lover or more content in here with DLCs or a sequel. That would be great.

The potential of a great, innovative, pseudo-horror ntr game was there, but the grind in this game is INSANE, the combat is also not good, the things you have to do are also poorly explained, I kid you not when I say that I did not see a single scene until I was like 7 hours in.

This could have been a 5 star game.... hope fully the dev learns from this and makes an amazing game with like 1/15 of the grind in this game.

This game is just way too grindy for those scenes, on top of that it's like a behind the scene of the mc for those CG which is just not my cup of tea . For real tho I don't even know what am i playing the whole time didn't really know what is the requirement for those cg

I was really hyped for this game. The art and production seemed high, so I was expecting something more high concept and engaging than your typical jpeg hunt, which many RPGM games can be.

There are a lot of great ideas here, but it ultimately fails. It's very tedious and there's little payoff.

The pros:
The art
NTR scenes don't get triggered intentionally, they happen sporadically, and you may happen upon them

The cons:
H scenes are rare
Gameplay is confusing, a lot is not spelled out
Escort missions
The gameplay loop involves setting up cameras to spy on the MCs girlfriend, but until new game+ they are grainy and very expensive, making an already over-long and grindy game even longer and grindier.

tl;dr Great idea, poorly executed. There are slow burns, and then there's tedium. This is the latter.

This could have been a good game, but it was not.

The combat is not good. Because it is far too hard. Even if you cheat to make your character level 99 some fights you will lose. That's right, you make them level 99 and still lose.

It lacks sufficient relationship building between the MC and love interest. I don't think you can bang her I tried taking her on a ton of different dates, but never got any action.

Many of the shops and stuff open up over time when you really kinda need the stuff from the start. Like bandages for example I couldn't find in a shop for several hours until a shop opened up with them.

It does have some interesting elements like a heart rate monitor, and a phone, and you can pick your penis size. Although you won't be getting to use that penis all that much anyways so why does it matter?

Almost all of the NTR stuff revolves around running around placing cameras around haunted houses. Then you have to wait for a scene to show up based on her heart monitor. Unless you cheat money in you must grind a lot of money for cameras.

The "Good Ending" where you cock block the bull and everyone else the whole way... Yea, that doesn't get you laid.

The crafting system is a bit of a pain in the ass. It takes a long time to farm anything to craft a decent weapon.

Sometimes basic choices don't effect anything. For example if you choose an alcoholic drink for you and the love interest... She does not drink it!

Later you can go to the bar alone and buy some alcohol for like 12000 or 14000 forget how much, but then it didn't really do anything and that would have been a lot of money if it wasn't cheated in.

There is only the option to "Interrupt" or "Do Nothing" if you find an NTR scene. By do nothing I mean you don't even get to watch. You just walk away. Then if you interrupt you become on a date with her instead of him. Which is great! but there is only like 3 spots for dates and you get no action anyways.

It's very frustrating and grindy, and not in a fun way as in a game like Karryn's Prison.

There isn't a lot of gradual progression to her level of corruption. I think it's like "No!" and she is getting raped... To like she is total slut right after soon enough. Little build up there.

By far the biggest frustration of all is the fact that the love interest and the bull are in the same haunted house as you... You can see them on cameras, but you can't run into them outside of the cameras. They are invisible. You can run circles around the entire building forever and never see them unless on the hidden cameras.

I'm a big fan of mystery NTR and corruption, some reviews for this game made me interested and i gave it a try, wasting away a good evening.
It's very slow paced, and by that i don't mean like the corruption is gradual, i mean it as in you will have to do a lot of gameplay stuff like puzzles and battles, then walk for hours in the town praying that you maybe get some event to continue with the story.

The gameplay loop consists of going to a dungeon, fully exploring it and setting up cameras in every room, the girl will be fighting in the same dungeon, but you can't see her bcs the developer was lazy or something, when her hp gets to 0 and some time passes she will go heal, there she gets harassed by the other guy building your typical corruption points or whatever name they used for this, you will know this is happening as the heartbeat meter on top of the screen will make the most annoying sound imaginable, you can also go to the security room to see the event or call her on her phone, it's hot the first couple of times, but it gets super repetitive and tedious. I got bored after a couple of hours, the corruption is bland, and it's the kind that doesn't change the heroine much, just adding new events, like she changes her underwear and that's it, you don't even get to see that most of the time.

If you have beaten all other good NTR games on this site and have nothing else to play, you might want to try it tho, for what it is you might get one or two faps out of it.

I also want to add that i got bored while also cheating to speed things up LMAO

Finally one hundred percented this game, it's quite good. For those who just want to know, THIS IS NETORARE THAT HAS MULTI ENDINGS! VANILLA, NTR, and NETORASE!

The Vanilla:
I do like the options, and the fact we can sex the female as the main character, however, there should've been a lot more sex scenes with them, like at least one for every dating spot. The vanilla sex is quite lacking in this one, but it's understandable since I don't think it's what crowd they were going for. As it is, you only have a single sex scene with variants depending on penis size and love points. That's it. However, there are lovey dovey moments and the True Ending is quite nice. Even one of the bad endings is good in a yandere way. (Hint, to get this, lose to the final boss 3 times, then lose again. The ending is worth it if you like yanderes.)

The NTR:
Here's where the game shines, and what it's mostly catered for. The way it starts is like every freaking NTR ever in existence that it will honestly make you roll your eyes. Blackmail that the feMC DOESN'T tell the main character about and sexes up and gets corrupted while trying to hide her secret. The plot of like 80 percent of NTR. While I'd prefer more of a hidden NTR thing, your main character WILL know about the NTR since a majority of it is seen through cameras and through your dreams.

The Netorase:
I'm sorry about this one Netorase crowd, but there's only a single ending for you guys, She unfortunately doesn't know about you knowing during her NTR sessions, so I'm next to certain that it doesn't count as Netorase, and it only shows up in an ending. (I don't know about this fetish, sorry for this)

Everything Else:
Dear god man, they didn't balance this game at all. Get a cheat plug in to handle just how much BS this game throws at you for little pay off. If you still don't want to, go to the final area during the weekend and train your ass off. If you want the NTR scenes during the missions though, you have to make sure the feMC isn't too OP though, since it relys on her being injured and is totally randomized.

Overall: 5/5. Could be a 10/5 if they balanced it correctly and added a Vanilla package for us degenerates. Where's my loving kisses, marriage and handholding ASMR?

ll start off with the two main issues of the game: grind & RNG.

The grind is disproportionately high. RNG is just a minor issue for an NTR run, but for the true ending, you need to constantly save-scum to find your partner on time. Time progresses each time you enter a new screen, whether it's a map or a building. This means going to the wrong building causes the time to progress twice, once for entering, once to leave. Later in the game, as you unlock more and more facilities, it gets worse.

NTR Run: That's pretty much your typical NTR game—let the bad guy take your girlfriend.

True Ending: Now, this is the real pain. You need to save on different save slots and literally stalk your girlfriend to prevent any harassment

Endings: I believe there are 8 endings—6 bad, 1 normal, 1 true.

The story is simple but fine.

Unlocking new facilities is just grinding population.
Some mechanics I could never unlock, like the 4th & 5th status screens.
I also never found the Hospital map.

It's sad because the gaming concept was promising. You can install surveillance cameras either to help your girlfriend or to capture scenes (later, even record and sell them).

It took me 15 hours to beat the game for the Bad Ending & True Ending....with cheats...

Edit:
Apparently, I was wrong. You don’t need to save scum, and you don’t need to save the FMCs virginity for the true ending. As long as you can fuck back the corruption and don’t let her fall into submission. This is unusual and actually a fresh take. Therefore, I’m changing my rating from 3 to 3,5

Imho, the game is certainly not for everyone due to its flaws, especially the RNG. But I’d say it’s also very innovative in many aspects, so it’s probably best for developers to check it out for inspiration.

The only game I've ever hated enough to actually leave a review, seriously fuck this game for wasting my time. Boring grindy bullshit I'm deleting it as soon as I finish writing this. do not waste your time, it is inferior to real games and fails as an h-game for having it's head stuck up its own ass. Its like Demon Souls if instead of fighting it just fucked you in the Clock.

I'm a fan of unique gameplay systems. And games like Dwarf Fortress or RimWorld. Like in these games you also don't have full control over everything. "Stuff" will happen, you can decide to just watch, or influence events in different ways. This improves your immersion and makes this game something different from all the other RPGs.

It takes some time to understand the game systems, so the game needs some time commitment, but after that it's a a lot of fun.