VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.5.2] [BuuPlays]

[storm1051787]

where did i say I'm upset about them willing to kill their dad? I'm mad about one of them trying to kill her own sister. and its funny you have no proof they only pray on smugglers and even then that's not good since some smugglers actually smuggle supplies to cities that need it or people out of the kingdom that are trying to escape an abusive relationship heck and we have only their word to trust when both have tried to kill us once, and their dad threatened to kill Kira and p


like a stalker ex who thinks if they cant have you no one can. and if you are gonna say something say it right because you cant even say threatened right and back to the point we still have only their word that their dad is abusive no proof or anything heck and they aren't real pirates either plus they don't

Steal cargo
Take hostages
Take over ships
they literally only attack smugglers which again isn't always good because some smugglers aren't even bad people and are just trying to help people and here come two pirates who are attacking it because its a smuggler ship that they have no proof or evidence is a ship that's doing anything bad they just assume. if its a slaver ship then id understand but even then just shooting it with cannons isn't good since the slaves are kept underdeck and would get killed by the cannon fire and if the smuggler ships are smuggling people without them being willing then the sisters are still killing people since i doubt anyone tied up person can escape a ship under fire.

Neither one of them tried to kill their sister. Pearl tries to kill the mc because her father told her that he was going to kill Kira and Kira never tries to harm pearl. You're right I have literally no proof that they only attack smuggler but that's what the game tells us. Using the same logic though you also have no proof that Kira and Pearl ever killed anyone aside from Brenda's followers.


As for the whole smuggler thing we are never given any word that the kingdom is in a bad enough shape that anyone needs to smuggle supplies anywhere. There is no mention of a war or anything that would cause something like that. It's just making up excuses to shit on them. The story is pretty clear on the idea of Kira and Pearl being good pirates who plan their targets out and don't attack innocent people.

pearl fell for it like a dumb bitch and then tried to kill Kira herself

Pearl never tries to kill Kira. I'm going to take this as a sign that you weren't paying attention.

we still have only their word that their dad is abusive no proof or anything

We do have proof. The fact that he literally tried to kill his own daughter. The game is pretty explicate about the fact that he was a tyrant and a murderer who nobody really liked and was corrupted by his ring.

 

[jadepaladin]

I think Kira and Pearl make for terrible pirates but the blame falls on Buu's writing. They have this reputation built up but their actions throughout have either been naïve or just plain stupid. The smartest decision I've seen them make from a pirate standpoint is recognizing that Diana was not someone they could confront on their own.

Brenda has a reputation for being a snake and actively functions like one. She's only interested in the MC because the twins are and she hopes to get something out of him/use him to strike at the twins. At best, she's a survivalist.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

Neither one of them tried to kill their sister. Pearl tries to kill the mc because her father told her that he was going to kill Kira and Kira never tries to harm pearl. You're right I have literally no proof that they only attack smuggler but that's what the game tells us. Using the same logic though you also have no proof that Kira and Pearl ever killed anyone aside from Brenda's followers.


As for the whole smuggler thing we are never given any word that the kingdom is in a bad enough shape that anyone needs to smuggle supplies anywhere. There is no mention of a war or anything that would cause something like that. It's just making up excuses to shit on them. The story is pretty clear on the idea of Kira and Pearl being good pirates who plan their targets out and don't attack innocent people.





Pearl never tries to kill Kira. I'm going to take this as a sign that you weren't paying attention.






We do have proof. The fact that he literally tried to kill his own daughter. The game is pretty explicate about the fact that he was a tyrant and a murderer who nobody really liked and was corrupted by his ring.

you realize how many people sold their kids to slavery and killed them in the age our mc is living in? thousand's to millions

 

[storm1051787]

you realize how many people sold their kids to slavery and killed them in the age our mc is living in? thousand's to millions

The mc isn't living in "age". He's living in a completely fictional fantasy world that doesn't follow the same history as ours. Just because stuff looks medieval, doesn't mean the laws and everything are identical to what they were in medieval times, some of the clothing the characters wear wouldn't even exist in mideval times.

 

[storm1051787]

I think Kira and Pearl make for terrible pirates but the blame falls on Buu's writing. They have this reputation built up but their actions throughout have either been naïve or just plain stupid. The smartest decision I've seen them make from a pirate standpoint is recognizing that Diana was not someone they could confront on their own.

Brenda has a reputation for being a snake and actively functions like one. She's only interested in the MC because the twins are and she hopes to get something out of him/use him to strike at the twins. At best, she's a survivalist.

I don't really feel like to can compare fictional pirates to real pirates, especially not in fantasy ones. Kira and pearl could do a whole bunch of badass naval battles against other pirates and smugglers that we just don't get to see. Infact they took down most of the rebelling pirates on their own so that counts for something. I'm also not really sure I'd say they're naive either. The thing with their Dad seems more out of desperation than them being naïve. There is no logical reason to think that the mc had the ability to take him on.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

Neither one of them tried to kill their sister. Pearl tries to kill the mc because her father told her that he was going to kill Kira and Kira never tries to harm pearl. You're right I have literally no proof that they only attack smuggler but that's what the game tells us. Using the same logic though you also have no proof that Kira and Pearl ever killed anyone aside from Brenda's followers.


As for the whole smuggler thing we are never given any word that the kingdom is in a bad enough shape that anyone needs to smuggle supplies anywhere. There is no mention of a war or anything that would cause something like that. It's just making up excuses to shit on them. The story is pretty clear on the idea of Kira and Pearl being good pirates who plan their targets out and don't attack innocent people.





Pearl never tries to kill Kira. I'm going to take this as a sign that you weren't paying attention.






We do have proof. The fact that he literally tried to kill his own daughter. The game is pretty explicate about the fact that he was a tyrant and a murderer who nobody really liked and was corrupted by his ring.

and I'm pretty sure attacking and wounding your sister IS trying to kill her. and you lied again saying we have no proof either of them killed anyone except Brenda's followers which is a lie since when we help them to go take down their father they kill multiple people so we do have proof so keep lying and we even have word that the kingdom has been on the verge of war because some of the other kingdoms view it as weak and your just glazing past that i didn't say the smugglers ONLY smuggle supplies i said they ALSO might smuggle people out of the kingdom to now read VERY CLOSELY to ESCPE ABUSIVE RELASHIONSHIPS can you read that? and the story also says that mc is a Nephilim which is a child between a human and an angel but the supposed angel is apparently more powerful then a god so i doubt he's ACTUALY an angel and it says that the mc can somehow steal abilities because of his Nephilim abilities when that isn't how they work at all and he actually should have basically superhuman strength yet he's cant even hurt a orc by punching it while some human adventures in this game can and the game also says that a normal human somehow is faster then a supposed being like a Nephilim

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

The mc isn't living in "age". He's living in a completely fictional fantasy world that doesn't follow the same history as ours. Just because stuff looks medieval, doesn't mean the laws and everything are identical to what they were in medieval times, some of the clothing the characters wear wouldn't even exist in mideval times.

ok what clothes do they wear wouldn't exist?

 

[Dessolos]

so even through the pirate twins are bitches who tried to kill you and even threatened you and betrayed you you'd trust them while Brenda did none of that and actually is trusting you enough where doesn't just kill two women who have killed hundreds of innocent people and literally betrayed their own family and basically city? yeah no they aren't trustworthy at all and one still trusted her dad after years of abuse and trying to kill her sister and even she tried to kill her sister like literally if she's willing to kill family she's willing to kill anyone

I mean each to their own you are entitled to your own opinion. I just find it hard to believe Peral or Kira killed hundreds of innocent people unless their father literally forced them. As they make it a point to go out of their way to only go after smugglers , slavers and go against their father's wishes and how he would do things when he is around.

Also when did they try to kill us? As far as I recall Kira only went as far as threaten us the first time and Peral just took the chalice. Peral did fight against Kira but never against the MC as far as I can remember. Also I doubt Peral was trying to kill Kira more like disarm her. However I wouldn't say they trusted their father more like they were afraid of him. So they made illogical decisions at times like Peral attacking Kira

Brenda how over attempted to take over Looters Bay , from the sounds of things used to be good friends with the twins if I recall correctly. Not to mention from the little bit ive seen of her I believe she is ruthless and is just as bad as one of the higher ranking pirates that worked directly under the father. To me she seems just to damn risky to let live , as I think if she see's a chance to betray the twins or the MC she will take it.

While the twins are extremely loyal to the MC. Peral's loyalty comes from her guilt of what she did and she wants to atone for her mistake ( tho imo I don't think she needs to feel guilty, as it is understandable why she did what she did and her sister forgave her) Kira's loyalty well that just cause she madly head over heels in love with the MC. to me Kira seems like she doesn't have a balance personality she either loves you or hates your guts and her slider is maxed out for said direction. I just don't see them betraying the MC of their own choosing. I could be wrong but that is my personal opinion.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

The mc isn't living in "age". He's living in a completely fictional fantasy world that doesn't follow the same history as ours. Just because stuff looks medieval, doesn't mean the laws and everything are identical to what they were in medieval times, some of the clothing the characters wear wouldn't even exist in mideval times.

a fictional age is still an age and you fucking contradicted yourself saying they took down some rebelling pirates which they actually killed them so no your just spouting lies

 

[MiltonPowers]

a fictional age is still an age and you fucking contradicted yourself saying they took down some rebelling pirates which they actually killed them so no your just spouting lies

Yeah, I bet them selfish evil pirate bitches would never offer to milk your cows.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

I mean each to their own you are entitled to your own opinion. I just find it hard to believe Peral or Kira killed hundreds of innocent people unless their father literally forced them. As they make it a point to go out of their way to only go after smugglers , slavers and go against their father's wishes and how he would do things when he is around.

Also when did they try to kill us? As far as I recall Kira only went as far as threaten us the first time and Peral just took the chalice. Peral did fight against Kira but never against the MC as far as I can remember. Also I doubt Peral was trying to kill Kira more like disarm her. However I wouldn't say they trusted their father more like they were afraid of him. So they made illogical decisions at times like Peral attacking Kira

Brenda how over attempted to take over Looters Bay , from the sounds of things used to be good friends with the twins if I recall correctly. Not to mention from the little bit ive seen of her I believe she is ruthless and is just as bad as one of the higher ranking pirates that worked directly under the father. To me she seems just to damn risky to let live , as I think if she see's a chance to betray the twins or the MC she will take it.

While the twins are extremely loyal to the MC. Peral's loyalty comes from her guilt of what she did and she wants to atone for her mistake ( tho imo I don't think she needs to feel guilty, as it is understandable why she did what she did and her sister forgave her) Kira's loyalty well that just cause she madly head over heels in love with the MC. to me Kira seems like she doesn't have a balance personality she either loves you or hates your guts and her slider is maxed out for said direction. I just don't see them betraying the MC of their own choosing. I could be wrong but that is my personal opinion.

dude pearl literally attacked mc in the cave to take the chalice and even if they did attack smuggler ships and slaver ships that still would cause innocent deaths seeing as how the slaves in the bottom of the ship would get killed from the cannon fire and if they do attack smuggler ships that could cause innocent people to die from hunger since they didn't get food that they are smuggling because of their king since not all kingdoms are good to their subjects or if the smuggler ships are smuggling people away from places to a different kingdom then they could get killed from canon fire and like the guys daughter we saved from smugglers what do you think would've happened if the sisters sunk the ship she was tied up on? she would've drowned or got burned alive or crushed.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

Yeah, I bet them selfish evil pirate bitches would never offer to milk your cows.

i don't have cows i work carpentry and welding

 

[Dessolos]

dude pearl literally attacked mc in the cave to take the chalice and even if they did attack smuggler ships and slaver ships that still would cause innocent deaths seeing as how the slaves in the bottom of the ship would get killed from the cannon fire and if they do attack smuggler ships that could cause innocent people to die from hunger since they didn't get food that they are smuggling because of their king since not all kingdoms are good to their subjects or if the smuggler ships are smuggling people away from places to a different kingdom then they could get killed from canon fire and like the guys daughter we saved from smugglers what do you think would've happened if the sisters sunk the ship she was tied up on? she would've drowned or got burned alive or crushed.

Like I said as far as I can remember no one has a perfect memory. but look you can believe what you want im not trying to change your mind I said my peace and stand by my opinion.

 

[storm1051787]

and I'm pretty sure attacking and wounding your sister IS trying to kill her.

You didn't read their dialogue. Pearl literally says that she was just trying to scare Kira off and wasn't actually trying to hurt her.

and you lied again saying we have no proof either of them killed anyone except Brenda's followers which is a lie since when we help them to go take down their father they kill multiple people

My bad I forgot to mention that they also killed their dad's followers, who were murderous pirates. Happy now? Does that take away anything I said about them not killing innocent people?

so we do have proof so keep lying and we even have word that the kingdom has been on the verge of war because some of the other kingdoms view it as weak

No we don't. We have word that two of the other kingdoms are sending spies over and are trying to maniplate the kingdom and usurp power. No mention of a war though. And no mention of any war in the mc's lifetime either.

and your just glazing past that i didn't say the smugglers ONLY smuggle supplies i said they ALSO might smuggle people out of the kingdom

I didn't gloss over that. I said because there is no where there would be no reason to try to sneak people out unless they were criminals. If they just normal people trying to run away from home they don't need a smuggler, they can charter any ship. Smugglers are people who transport illegal goods.

to now read VERY CLOSELY to ESCPE ABUSIVE RELASHIONSHIPS can you read that? and the story also says that mc is a Nephilim which is a child between a human and an angel but the supposed angel is apparently more powerful then a god so i doubt he's ACTUALY an angel and it says that the mc can somehow steal abilities because of his Nephilim abilities when that isn't how they work at all and he actually should have basically superhuman strength yet he's cant even hurt a orc by punching it while some human adventures in this game can and the game also says that a normal human somehow is faster then a supposed being like a Nephilim

I have zero idea what this has to do with anything

ok what clothes do they wear wouldn't exist?

Kira literally wears modern high heel shoes which look very different from the ones that would have actually existed in the middle ages, and Eliza literally wears a miniskirt, Diana's clothes also seem like an attempt to emulate 1900th century naval clothing

a fictional age is still an age and you fucking contradicted yourself saying they took down some rebelling pirates which they actually killed them so no your just spouting lies

It's the second era if we're being accurate to the lore. But in terms of setting it's just a mix match of different time periods and tropes, some stuff is closer to mideval, some stuff is closer to the early modern period ect. It just takes from all over for rule of cool sake and isn't going to follow real world history very well

 

[jadepaladin]

I don't really feel like to can compare fictional pirates to real pirates, especially not in fantasy ones. Kira and pearl could do a whole bunch of badass naval battles against other pirates and smugglers that we just don't get to see. Infact they took down most of the rebelling pirates on their own so that counts for something. I'm also not really sure I'd say they're naive either. The thing with their Dad seems more out of desperation than them being naïve. There is no logical reason to think that the mc had the ability to take him on.

Well, there's no "fantasy pirate" standard so real pirate is all we've got. The battle against their dad showed off their individual martial prowess, which, while nice for a pirate to have, isn't crucial. They aren't alone either, that ship is way too big for them but we've already noticed the rest of the crew has been a mixed bag of people. Kelly, cute but ultimately damsel in distress, and the other creepy guy that MC had to deal with to save Kelly one of the times she was in trouble. So it's either slim pickings in Looter's Bay, which is realistic, or they are terrible judges of character. I think the truth is a little of both.

 

[MiltonPowers]

dude pearl literally attacked mc in the cave to take the chalice

You really need to play it again dude, before you go sprouting nonsense.

Pearl arrived, picked up the chalice says 'Father's Orders' to Kira and 'I'm sorry' and 'Please forgive me' and 'Don't Hate me' to MC, and then used a transporter orb to leave.

There was no attacking literally or figuratively.

 

[Maviarab]

You know...I do seriously wonder if I play differenty games to some of the folk on this foru...ohh look..pretty picture....eehh...what point was I trying to make again?

Ugghh...

 

[jadepaladin]

You know...I do seriously wonder if I play differenty games to some of the folk on this foru...ohh look..pretty picture....eehh...what point was I trying to make again?

Ugghh...I despise having to take people off the list just to add new ones....

I'm 100% positive I've said something like this before and I'm less positive it was in this thread.

 

[sadsasdadsasd]

Like I said as far as I can remember no one has a perfect memory. but look you can believe what you want im not trying to change your mind I said my peace and stand by my opinion.

its not an opinon when literaly no slaves can survive

You didn't read their dialogue. Pearl literally says that she was just trying to scare Kira off and wasn't actually trying to hurt her. View attachment 4590630







My bad I forgot to mention that they also killed their dad's followers, who were murderous pirates. Happy now? Does that take away anything I said about them not killing innocent people?





No we don't. We have word that two of the other kingdoms are sending spies over and are trying to maniplate the kingdom and usurp power. No mention of a war though. And no mention of any war in the mc's lifetime either.







I didn't gloss over that. I said because there is no where there would be no reason to try to sneak people out unless they were criminals. If they just normal people trying to run away from home they don't need a smuggler, they can charter any ship. Smugglers are people who transport illegal goods.







I have zero idea what this has to do with anything




Kira literally wears modern high heel shoes which look very different from the ones that would have actually existed in the middle ages, and Eliza literally wears a miniskirt, Diana's clothes also seem like an attempt to emulate 1900th century naval clothing



It's the second era if we're being accurate to the lore. But in terms of setting it's just a mix match of different time periods and tropes, some stuff is closer to mideval, some stuff is closer to the early modern period ect. It just takes from all over for rule of cool sake and isn't going to follow real world history very well

so you assume they wore only ONE type of clothing for ONE age in every kingdom in the universe across that time even through there wasn't JUST one style and that some kingdoms even did wear the stuff that's worn in the game and why would fucking PIRATES follow one dress code and not just wear anything they want? heck only navy ships follow that shit and pirates back then weren't even a navy thing and pirates never wore navy clothing and our navy in America was literally made just to fuck pirates in the ass. and most navy's had specific clothes for them while pirates basically said random bullshit go for clothing. so your lying again by saying pirates were a navy stuff when they weren't they were most old navy people or just random people that got recruited to steal shit and again the king himself said hes caught spies saying the kingdom they are from is surveying the kingdom mc lives to see if they can win and transporting people and your ass doesnt even know what charter means plus they cant just charter any ship and that's not what its even used for either ill show what they are for

• Land grants
  Charters were used to grant land to lords and nobles, which gave them the right to profit from the land.
  
  
• City founding
  Charters were used to officially establish cities, giving them the right to set laws, collect taxes, and choose officials.
  
  
• Legal frameworks
  Charters established legal frameworks and defined the relationship between rulers and their subjects.
  
  
• Guilds and communes
  Charters could bind together guilds and communes.
  
  
• Property rights
  Charters could record donations, resolutions for private property disputes, and agreements.

that's a charter in medieval times

 

[Dessolos]

You really need to play it again dude, before you go sprouting nonsense.

Pearl arrived, picked up the chalice says 'Father's Orders' to Kira and 'I'm sorry' and 'Please forgive me' and 'Don't Hate me' to MC, and then used a transporter orb to leave.

There was no attacking literally or figuratively.

thanks for this that's what I thought to but didn't have a save to confirm as it's been awhile